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College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
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GreatLakerMohawk
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Re: College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
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Re: College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
I agree a BCS ranking even beyond the top 5 or 10 is pointless, perhaps they have them down to 25 just so they can be sure to get all of the automatic qualifiers somewhere in the rankings.
I agree a BCS ranking even beyond the top 5 or 10 is pointless, perhaps they have them down to 25 just so they can be sure to get all of the automatic qualifiers somewhere in the rankings.
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Re: College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
Isn't there some rule that a conference's champion must average a finish in the top 14 or so over a set period of time, or that conference loses its autobid. Whether one of the elect would actually loses its money maker or the rules would just be altered again is up for debate.
Isn't there some rule that a conference's champion must average a finish in the top 14 or so over a set period of time, or that conference loses its autobid. Whether one of the elect would actually loses its money maker or the rules would just be altered again is up for debate.
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They need to rank at least 14 because at that position Notre Dame becomes eligible to take a BCS bowl bid. They rank 25 because that's the number the public is used to...
They need to rank at least 14 because at that position Notre Dame becomes eligible to take a BCS bowl bid. They rank 25 because that's the number the public is used to...
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It already is. There's no BS in the FCS.
It already is. There's no BS in the FCS.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but all of the BCS bowls are on FOX this year, and ESPN will be showing the D1-AA, D2 and the D3 championship games. It would be nice if they, you know, actually promoted those games a little more, using them to show that yeah, a playoff system for college football does work.
As there is in Division Two as well. Odd thing about ESPN announcing the D2 playoffs yesterday, bearly took em 5 minutes to show us the brackets, and gave the quick run down of how the D2 playoffs work, and then like oh yeah, went back to the same **** five stories that they had already covered.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but all of the BCS bowls are on FOX this year, and ESPN will be showing the D1-AA, D2 and the D3 championship games. It would be nice if they, you know, actually promoted those games a little more, using them to show that yeah, a playoff system for college football does work.
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Like hockey, lacrosse, soccer etc, E$PN only airs the championship because it has to. One of the big moneymakers at the network is Division I-A football. Every minute they spend covering the little sport (even though they are broadcasting it) is lost revenue.
As there is in Division Two as well. Odd thing about ESPN announcing the D2 playoffs yesterday, bearly took em 5 minutes to show us the brackets, and gave the quick run down of how the D2 playoffs work, and then like oh yeah, went back to the same **** five stories that they had already covered.
Like hockey, lacrosse, soccer etc, E$PN only airs the championship because it has to. One of the big moneymakers at the network is Division I-A football. Every minute they spend covering the little sport (even though they are broadcasting it) is lost revenue.
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And they actually need to go deeper than that, to #16. That's for the clause that if a non-BCS school finishes 13-16 (since at #12 or higher they are given a guaranteed bid) and ahead of an AQ from a BCS conference, they get a guaranteed bid.
As for the eligibility data, all it says as of this year is "no fewer than 5 automatic bids, and as many as seven" (in other words, "we reserve the right to kick out the Big East"), and that the current BCS-6 are guaranteed bids through 2013. And since they said this was decided based on data from 2004-07, we can conclude that the standard for "highest ranked team, by conference" puts the line somewhere between 9 and 13.25 (Big East and WAC respectively, assuming a #26 ranking for the 2005 WAC champion who failed to appear in the standings, and the "Louisville credit" for the Big East's 2004 season), and the standard for "teams appearing in the BCS rankings" is between 1 and 2.75 (WAC/MWC and Big East, respectively). I don't have the time to go digging through all the individual computer polls, but I assume the line is also somewhere just south of where the 6 current autobid conferences lie.
However, if we take the current BCS standings as the numbers for 2009, the MWC has a good case going forward for the post-2013 games: they have as many teams in the BCS rankings over the 2008 and 2009 seasons as the ACC, Big East and Pac Ten (all three leagues averaging 3), and a higher league leader average (5) than the Big East (8.5), ACC (10.5), Pac Ten (7) and Big Ten (9).
And they actually need to go deeper than that, to #16. That's for the clause that if a non-BCS school finishes 13-16 (since at #12 or higher they are given a guaranteed bid) and ahead of an AQ from a BCS conference, they get a guaranteed bid.
As for the eligibility data, all it says as of this year is "no fewer than 5 automatic bids, and as many as seven" (in other words, "we reserve the right to kick out the Big East"), and that the current BCS-6 are guaranteed bids through 2013. And since they said this was decided based on data from 2004-07, we can conclude that the standard for "highest ranked team, by conference" puts the line somewhere between 9 and 13.25 (Big East and WAC respectively, assuming a #26 ranking for the 2005 WAC champion who failed to appear in the standings, and the "Louisville credit" for the Big East's 2004 season), and the standard for "teams appearing in the BCS rankings" is between 1 and 2.75 (WAC/MWC and Big East, respectively). I don't have the time to go digging through all the individual computer polls, but I assume the line is also somewhere just south of where the 6 current autobid conferences lie.
However, if we take the current BCS standings as the numbers for 2009, the MWC has a good case going forward for the post-2013 games: they have as many teams in the BCS rankings over the 2008 and 2009 seasons as the ACC, Big East and Pac Ten (all three leagues averaging 3), and a higher league leader average (5) than the Big East (8.5), ACC (10.5), Pac Ten (7) and Big Ten (9).
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Hell, I know I'm biased about the lack of coverage that D2 gets and all, but hell, the same **** information all the time on ESPNNews there gets **** boring. And hell, who is left there in Bristol that will go out and swear on a stack of bibles with a Koran and a few Scientology pamphlets thrown in there for good measure that will sit there and swear that the BCS is better than what a playoff system would be? To me, it would be a perfect opportunity for the people that want to blow up the BCS system and go to a playoff and point out some of the biggest flaws in the arguments the BCS supporters have for not having a playoff, saying that the season would be too long and that it would be too hard for the kids to keep their grades up. Bullpucky. The most games anybody in D2 would even play in a championship run would be 16, and that's if they play a full eleven game schedule, make the playoffs but not earn a bye week in the first round of the playoffs. And heck, half the time, the championship game is the week right after finals and all of the kids have to finish up their exams early so that they can travel down to the championship game site. And well, lets be honest, I really don't think the finals of Underwater Basket Weaving 101 at Texas are all that hard to pass.
Hell, I know I'm biased about the lack of coverage that D2 gets and all, but hell, the same **** information all the time on ESPNNews there gets **** boring. And hell, who is left there in Bristol that will go out and swear on a stack of bibles with a Koran and a few Scientology pamphlets thrown in there for good measure that will sit there and swear that the BCS is better than what a playoff system would be? To me, it would be a perfect opportunity for the people that want to blow up the BCS system and go to a playoff and point out some of the biggest flaws in the arguments the BCS supporters have for not having a playoff, saying that the season would be too long and that it would be too hard for the kids to keep their grades up. Bullpucky. The most games anybody in D2 would even play in a championship run would be 16, and that's if they play a full eleven game schedule, make the playoffs but not earn a bye week in the first round of the playoffs. And heck, half the time, the championship game is the week right after finals and all of the kids have to finish up their exams early so that they can travel down to the championship game site. And well, lets be honest, I really don't think the finals of Underwater Basket Weaving 101 at Texas are all that hard to pass.
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Re: College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
E$PN broadcasts all the bowls except a few and they make a ton of money doing so. Why would they want to blow up the BCS?
Hell, I know I'm biased about the lack of coverage that D2 gets and all, but hell, the same **** information all the time on ESPNNews there gets **** boring. And hell, who is left there in Bristol that will go out and swear on a stack of bibles with a Koran and a few Scientology pamphlets thrown in there for good measure that will sit there and swear that the BCS is better than what a playoff system would be? To me, it would be a perfect opportunity for the people that want to blow up the BCS system and go to a playoff and point out some of the biggest flaws in the arguments the BCS supporters have for not having a playoff, saying that the season would be too long and that it would be too hard for the kids to keep their grades up. Bullpucky. The most games anybody in D2 would even play in a championship run would be 16, and that's if they play a full eleven game schedule, make the playoffs but not earn a bye week in the first round of the playoffs. And heck, half the time, the championship game is the week right after finals and all of the kids have to finish up their exams early so that they can travel down to the championship game site. And well, lets be honest, I really don't think the finals of Underwater Basket Weaving 101 at Texas are all that hard to pass.
E$PN broadcasts all the bowls except a few and they make a ton of money doing so. Why would they want to blow up the BCS?
GreatLakerMohawk
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Re: College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
Pardon me...
NO ONE CARES ABOUT D-2 FOOTBALL.
There.
Pardon me...
NO ONE CARES ABOUT D-2 FOOTBALL.
There.
Re: College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
Not everybody is going to want to advertise at say, the Little Ceasar's Pizza Bowl, but if you have things like that going on, you're going to get a lot of eyeballs on it.
Because they could make a ****tetone more in money by broadcasting a true D1-A playoff. Where we get the best of the best going at it. So Cal taking on the Gator's at the Swamp. Texas facing the Buckeye's in Columbus. Alabama up in the Big House. And everybody's personal fav, Notre Dame having the same number of NCAA playoff wins as St. Cloud State.
Not everybody is going to want to advertise at say, the Little Ceasar's Pizza Bowl, but if you have things like that going on, you're going to get a lot of eyeballs on it.
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MinnesotaNorthStar
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Re: College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
How many bowls are there? 25? An 8 team playoff would have 7 games.
Simple Math.
No, they won't...or we'd have a playoff by now...
How many bowls are there? 25? An 8 team playoff would have 7 games.
Simple Math.
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With an 8 team playoff, you'd still have the meaningless bowls, just like basketball still has the NIT.
And yes, a playoff would make a ton of money. But it would be different people making that money, that's why it won't change.
With an 8 team playoff, you'd still have the meaningless bowls, just like basketball still has the NIT.
And yes, a playoff would make a ton of money. But it would be different people making that money, that's why it won't change.
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Re: College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
Have you ever tried weaving a basket underwater? Now try doing it weighing 300lbs, wearing a cowboy hat and chewing on a big thing of CHAW! See who is rolling their eyes now
Hell, I know I'm biased about the lack of coverage that D2 gets and all, but hell, the same **** information all the time on ESPNNews there gets **** boring. And hell, who is left there in Bristol that will go out and swear on a stack of bibles with a Koran and a few Scientology pamphlets thrown in there for good measure that will sit there and swear that the BCS is better than what a playoff system would be? To me, it would be a perfect opportunity for the people that want to blow up the BCS system and go to a playoff and point out some of the biggest flaws in the arguments the BCS supporters have for not having a playoff, saying that the season would be too long and that it would be too hard for the kids to keep their grades up. Bullpucky. The most games anybody in D2 would even play in a championship run would be 16, and that's if they play a full eleven game schedule, make the playoffs but not earn a bye week in the first round of the playoffs. And heck, half the time, the championship game is the week right after finals and all of the kids have to finish up their exams early so that they can travel down to the championship game site. And well, lets be honest, I really don't think the finals of Underwater Basket Weaving 101 at Texas are all that hard to pass.
Have you ever tried weaving a basket underwater? Now try doing it weighing 300lbs, wearing a cowboy hat and chewing on a big thing of CHAW! See who is rolling their eyes now
GreatLakerMohawk
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Re: College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings
There are 34 bowl games accounting for (obviously) 68 teams which is better than half of all D-IA schools that play. When better than half the teams are getting bonus money at the end of the year for playing an extra game, you can understand why a lot of schools would be pretty ticked off, especially since most bowl games have tie-ins with conferences to guarantee their members a payout.
The system is crooked and broken.
There are 34 bowl games accounting for (obviously) 68 teams which is better than half of all D-IA schools that play. When better than half the teams are getting bonus money at the end of the year for playing an extra game, you can understand why a lot of schools would be pretty ticked off, especially since most bowl games have tie-ins with conferences to guarantee their members a payout.
The system is crooked and broken.
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