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Colgate 2013-14

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Kepler said:
And you can't face Union until the final, which is big since Gate and U are the teams that are on fire right now.

Since Princeton is toast, and since there is usually at least one first round upset, you are probably looking at SLU or Brown, neither of who should give you trouble.
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Looks to me like we would play RPI if Brown winning was the only upset, if that is even an upset, I'm not so sure.
 
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TchrBill said:
I think any team can give anyone trouble in this league; we're all tied at zero now. We've lost to Brown once already. The Bears have beaten Qpac, Yale (x2), Colorado Coll, tied Denver and BC...if our loss to Harvard is any indication, it means records or stats on paper don't mean everything. Colgate's season is tremendous but there were games we probably should have won and others that we should have dominated more. The only legit team is Union...for the 3rd year in a row. We were fortunate that our defense stood tall against the Big Green...we certainly gave them enough chances on the power play. After they scored, they took over and we looked a bit desperate, not winning many faceoffs. I doubt any of us were content until the buzzer sounded. They finished 10th but played a great series in CNY this weekend.
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I agree 100%, anyone can beat anyone in this league, Princeton is probably the exception.
 
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Don't know why we are worried about who we will face. The only thing I hope for our opponent is that they play 3x OT games and that Sunday is a national record for the longest game ever played

As mentioned in a previous post I will be looking at the hockey east playoffs hoping other bubble teams get caught in the single elimination format
 
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I would be remiss if I did not congratulate DV on the job he did molding this team this season. And that goes for the assistant coaches as well. You can't have a team rise from the ashes as this one did, without great leadership. As GR said, he is a worthy COTY winner. (Still wondering where GC is ;) )
 
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red133883 said:
Don't know why we are worried about who we will face. The only thing I hope for our opponent is that they play 3x OT games and that Sunday is a national record for the longest game ever played

As mentioned in a previous post I will be looking at the hockey east playoffs hoping other bubble teams get caught in the single elimination format
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It doesn't matter who we play. The team we play will be a dangerous one, especially if it's a lower seed like Brown or Dartmouth, winning twice on the road in the same building. We will need to bring our A-game if we want to advance to Placid or beyond.

As far as the Hockey East playoffs go, the first round is single-elimination, followed by a best-of-3 quarterfinal round. Weird huh? Even more absurd, there are Hockey East fans that absolutely loathe the fact that every Hockey East team makes the playoffs this year. However, it should be noted that two teams ahead of us in the PWR (Notre Dame and Vermont) both have to win this weekend or their seasons come to a crashing halt. Ideally, we want BU and UMass to eliminate these teams from the Hockey East tournament this coming weekend, because then we can jump ahead of them in the PWR if we take care of our own business.
 
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Rainman said:
However, it should be noted that two teams ahead of us in the PWR (Notre Dame and Vermont) both have to win this weekend or their seasons come to a crashing halt. Ideally, we want BU and UMass to eliminate these teams from the Hockey East tournament this coming weekend, because then we can jump ahead of them in the PWR if we take care of our own business.
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Yup, UMass owes us big-time ;)
 
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I really don't have anything to say. I just wanted to get this thread back on the 1st page ahead of the "watch this movie" crap. It's really getting out of hand. Isn't there some way to block that stuff? Is there a way we can all spam them? There's got to be some RPI guy that can blow these guy up so we can get back to hockey. I know you guys can play hockey. How about you spend a little time on these nitwits and body check them into oblivion. Just saying.
 
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I have been trying to hack the Pairwise the past few days, trying to find a way to get us on the right side of the bubble. Using the PWR customization tool on CHN, you will be surprised to find out that had we won just one of our games against UMass, we would be 11th in the PWR right now. If a series of games go our way on Friday night (including UMass knocking out Vermont), we would only climb to 15th, the last team in barring any upset conference champions. Bottom line is this, we need to sweep our QF series then win our semifinal game (preferably against Quinnipiac) to "safely" put us on the right side of the bubble. If we advance to Placid in 3 games, we will probably need to win another 2 more and hoist the Whitelaw trophy in order to make the NCAA's.

A lot can happen this weekend, but for now we should focus on sweeping next weekend.
 
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Rainman said:
I have been trying to hack the Pairwise the past few days, trying to find a way to get us on the right side of the bubble. Using the PWR customization tool on CHN, you will be surprised to find out that had we won just one of our games against UMass, we would be 11th in the PWR right now.
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It's remarkable how individual results can have enormous PWR effects. There was a point during the season where we were 9th but switching one prior result (a loss to Dartmouth) would have put us 3rd, and IINM had we lost the UMA game which was canceled we would now be 20th.

Don't lose a game in the QF (which you can control) and don't get stuck playing Harvard or Dartmouth (which you can't).
 
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New contest this year: ECAC Pick the Awards. Get your picks in for whose going to win the major awards and be put on the 1,2,3 and rookie teams
 
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We dont play and yet we drop two spots in the pairwise, and it seemed like most games that could boost our pairwise (except for the Vermont game) went in our favor. Hopefully the Minnesota teams (State and Dutluth) lose tonight. Looks more and more like we will need to at least make the final game to get an at large bid. All we can do is let things play out and continue to win. If the results hold we would have SLU, and although I dont like to "hope" for results I wouldnt mind facing SLU due to our success this year. Keep up the winning and let the national results play out!
 
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We are behind Minn Deluth in RPI .5358 to .5355, Northeastern .5379 to .5355, Minn State .5386 to .5355, Vermont .5413 to .5355. I have seen one game change a teams RPI by .0075. That would put us back in the top fifteen by just one games difference. If the first three teams mentioned above lost tonight, we'd be right back probably. Just like we dropped last night we can be right back with favorable results tonight. If we swept next weekend we'd really be in good shape. A 2-1 series next weekend would make it iffy. I think if we win one in Lake Placid we get in, maybe even the consy. Of course if we don't win next weekend this is all mute. Just win our series next weekend, the PWR is going to fluctuate every game a lot, we control our own destiny as far as making the NCAA's.
 
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Shabby,

There is no Consol game in Lake Placid. They ended it as of this year, and I thought it would come back and bite a team (just didnt think it may be 'gate). Last time we made the tournament it was only because of the Consol game. (it was a play in game between Vermont and 'Gate). And we do control our own destiny (as does every team not eliminated from a league championship). One good thing is that we will know exactly what we need to do to make it as an at large team by the time we get to LP. CHN generally comes out with a "be the committee" app which allows you to simulate all the remaining games and look at how your picks change the PWR.
 
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Hard to believe our wins over ranked teams don't seem to impact us as much as our horrible losses.
 
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Thank you, I didn't know that. I guess we probably need to either sweep next weekend or win two games to one and win one in LP. If other teams lose though...who knows?
 
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TchrBill said:
Hard to believe our wins over ranked teams don't seem to impact us as much as our horrible losses.
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Amen, if we swept UMass we would be around 12 or 13 in the PWR, go to CHN and you can mke the changes manually.
 
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sshablak said:
Amen, if we swept UMass we would be around 12 or 13 in the PWR, go to CHN and you can mke the changes manually.
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That's pretty that you can change results and to see what could have happened. I did the same with Quinnipiac and changed every tie to a win and every one goal loss to a win and came out with 32-4 and the top overall seed. Shoulda coulda woulda but still fun to to play around with the pairwise.
 
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I did a more realistic change (changing the ties from Union and RPI) to wins, which we all agree should have been the result and we are thirteenth. However, it would be more productive to do the future results and seeing what would be beneficial going forward
 
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sshablak said:
We are behind Minn Deluth in RPI .5358 to .5355, Northeastern .5379 to .5355, Minn State .5386 to .5355, Vermont .5413 to .5355. I have seen one game change a teams RPI by .0075. That would put us back in the top fifteen by just one games difference. If the first three teams mentioned above lost tonight, we'd be right back probably.
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Northeastern isn't playing tonight. They have a bye in the Hockey East playoffs but are also in "bubble trouble" just like we are. We need Mankato and Duluth to both lose tonight. Also helping us would be wins by Ferris State, RIT, Bowling Green, Minnesota, and St. Cloud (teams we played against).

Also, even though Vermont won tonight, if they get swept next weekend, they will most likely be out of the tournament. Ironically, if Notre Dame were to lose tonight, they could still get into the NCAA's even though they would have two weekends off, just like RPI back in 2011! So we actually want them to win tonight but then get swept next weekend. Come Monday we'll not only know who we'll be playing, but we'll also have a better idea of where we stand in terms of the Pairwise.

Finally, using CHN's tool, had Vermont lost last night, we would have still dropped in the PWR, but only to 17th. However, it would have also dropped Vermont to 18th, ending their season.
 
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