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Colgate 2010-11

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Merry, Merry from the Skate! Curious what posters think of Heisenberg's recruit list so far? It's freightening to me to see Dartmouth with 18 recruits, 10 of them coming in next year; Brown with 14 semi-commited, some arriving in 2012 or 2013; Harvard with 13 listed, 8 next season; Yale 17 listed, 8 for next year; Princeton 11 listed, 8 for next season; Union 9 on the list, 7 next year. Admittedly SLU lists only 5 so far, and Colgate has 8, with 3.5 indicated for next year. It's scary to me to see these huge numbers for programs that seem to be in the top half of the league so far this season. Their recruiting tentacles seem to reach far and wide and they are putting up big numbers. What do you think? How do we measure up? (Interesting that the Tigers seem to be going with all Canadian recruits, while the Crimson are sticking to the prep ranks...what does this mean, if anything?)
 
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ColSkate65 said:
Merry, Merry from the Skate! Curious what posters think of Heisenberg's recruit list so far? It's freightening to me to see Dartmouth with 18 recruits, 10 of them coming in next year; Brown with 14 semi-commited, some arriving in 2012 or 2013; Harvard with 13 listed, 8 next season; Yale 17 listed, 8 for next year; Princeton 11 listed, 8 for next season; Union 9 on the list, 7 next year. Admittedly SLU lists only 5 so far, and Colgate has 8, with 3.5 indicated for next year. It's scary to me to see these huge numbers for programs that seem to be in the top half of the league so far this season. Their recruiting tentacles seem to reach far and wide and they are putting up big numbers. What do you think? How do we measure up? (Interesting that the Tigers seem to be going with all Canadian recruits, while the Crimson are sticking to the prep ranks...what does this mean, if anything?)
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Dartmouth seems to sign a lot of average players. Take a look, for example, where Heisenberg rates their USHL recruits. A few will pan out, the rest won't be back after a year. To some extent, the rest of the Ivies seem to do the same thing.
 
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Gaterrooter said:
So here's what I'm thinking. We go to Dartmouth and sneak up on BC. Then we win the Championship game on New Years EVE and serve notice that 2011 is our year! I've heard coach V say it twice now and I do believe he is right. They are not far away from putting some W's up.
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Here's to hoping the Colgate winning streak starts on 12/31/10 and they go undefeated the remainder of the regular season. ;) :)
 
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I've just been saying that he's a terrible coach and that this program will go nowhere if he's still there.

Yeah- he's built the program up, but so did Slater. The Vaughan Era is over. When was our last ECAC championship (1990)? When was the last Frozen Four (1990)? Judging by the numbers this should be the year for our next NCAA appearance. Are we happy with one every 10 years?

He's not a good coach. Get someone who the players actually respect and who can actually deliver year-in and year-out. If this guy was running any sort of corporation he'd be out. I don't know why you all are content putting everything on the players every year when the coaching is clearly lacking. Wake up.
 
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Happy holidays to everyone who posts here. I've been on vacation for the past week and didn't see the scores from the RMU games until now -- all I can say is that the lyrics to this song pretty much tell us the story of our season.

Looking at our schedule, at the start of the year I thought, based on our success last year, that we would be 10-5-1 going into the BC game (with the projected losses coming to LSSU (1), SLU, Yale, Niagara (1), and RMU (1) and the tie at Clarkson). Instead we're 3-12-1. I want to blame Don Vaughan. I've only seen the team play once (the season opener on Cape Cod), and thought we would be in for a solid winning season. I didn't think that would be just ONE of three victories so far.

As luck has it, I have the day off from work on Thursday, so I'm currently contemplating a trip to Hanover to see the team play Boston College. The odds are definitely against us, but maybe my presence and passionate cheering for Colgate will be a good luck charm. If not, well, I'll finally see with my own eyes what exactly we've been doing wrong that's making us pay dearly...
 
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Yeah, I think I would see us play both BC and Dartmouth/Merceyhurst before drawing a conclusion. Always better to see a weekend of games to get the real feelings about a team's performance. BC may be too good for any team in this field.

BTW, any posters with under 1000 posts is not believeable on this thread .:) -- except Rainman who is close to the magic number). We try to keep things upbeat here, and this has generally been a positive thread over the years. A lot of the newbies posting seem to have a grudge against the present day coaches. DV's record speaks for itself. Posting smack on this thread is counter productive and gets us nowhere. Legitimate constructive cristism is welcome, but lets keep things going in a positive direction. There is a thread for trash talk on this board - I would suggest you take your gripes over there.:)
 
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Colskate just hit 1000 this week. I have a bunch more to go so I will be repeatedly posting throughout the rest of the year until I hit 1000!
 
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Bored so I went looking at stats. We've outshot just about everybody including Yale 15-2 in the third period. Are we getting perimeter shots(excluding PP) or can't finish or what do you think it is ??
 
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A Lot of perimeter and low percentage shots. We don't seem to get any traffic in front either. All but a few seem unwilling to take the punishment to stay in front. That being said, I saw Bourdon score with a shot from the goal line out wide. Hit the goalie and went in. So, I guess a shot on goal is never a bad play.
 
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Repeating myself, but we seem to lack that big, physical force in the paint that we had with Jesse W. Need a guy who can take the punishment and not be moved from in front of the net who picks up garbage goals. Bourdon is one who comes to mind who can pull this off, as Eh mentioned, although a bit small. I thought Day would fill this role coming in as a frosh. Hope some summer work in the weight room - and at training table - can produce a heavyweight for next year.
 
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You don't have to be a heavyweight... many of you older gate rooters will remember Sean Nolan. He was not very big, but was mentally as tough as they come. Fearless in front of the net and scored mostly garbage goals. People remember All-American Andy McDonald on that 2000 NCAA team, but Nolan was one of the real keys to their success also.
 
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Bourdon is more of a shoot from anywhere type of guy who likes to be moving and out of traffic. You need the nasty,take a lickin' type of player to muck it up in front of the net. Mayer comes to mind. That third line is big. Mayer is the shortest but he fights hard for position and has a lot of heart. Day needs to play more of that as well. Let someone else cycle it and let Mayer eat up a defenceman in front and distract the goalie.
 
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UHhky said:
I've just been saying that he's a terrible coach and that this program will go nowhere if he's still there.

Yeah- he's built the program up, but so did Slater. The Vaughan Era is over. When was our last ECAC championship (1990)? When was the last Frozen Four (1990)? Judging by the numbers this should be the year for our next NCAA appearance. Are we happy with one every 10 years?

He's not a good coach. Get someone who the players actually respect and who can actually deliver year-in and year-out. If this guy was running any sort of corporation he'd be out. I don't know why you all are content putting everything on the players every year when the coaching is clearly lacking. Wake up.
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Well, Christmas has come and gone, and I guess Santa didn't bring you your gift. D.V. is far too valuable into the overall process at Colgate, and you are far to negative, and seemingly bitter. The team came close 3 of the past 5 years at the ECAC's, and all it needed was a bounce or two. Back-Off Big Boy !!
 
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