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Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

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Ahem.
Earthly housekeeping?
Seems it's happened before, before genus homo.

So then you will totally accept the time when you and your family die due to a weather event. Just the way it is. No worries that there may be a chance that the current situation can be man caused, and that death just happens. It's more important that people can make money vs. do anything about that.

Ok.

Your version of capitalism sucks.
 
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... you will totally accept the time when you and your family die ...

That day is coming no matter what any of us do. In the meantime, enjoy the ride.

alfa, some day you will be dead. Nature demands it; it's the funny thing about life, none of us get out of it alive.
 
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Some people have kids and want a habitable planet for them, heck some don't and still would like the future to not be a complete mess for the human race. Just accepting it and saying we can't do anything because it's hard is just weird.
 
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We've reached the next step on the Exxon Escalator:

1. Climate change is wacky.
2. Climate change is a hoax.
3. Climate change is real but it's not man-made.
4. Climate change is man-made but it's not fossil fuels.
5. Life is pointless anyway.
 
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Some people have kids and want a habitable planet for them, heck some don't and still would like the future to not be a complete mess for the human race. Just accepting it and saying we can't do anything because it's hard is just weird.

I don't think you understand how expensive it would be to save our species from extinction. Think of the cost, man!
 
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

We've reached the next step on the Exxon Escalator:

1. Climate change is wacky.
2. Climate change is a hoax.
3. Climate change is real but it's not man-made.
4. Climate change is man-made but it's not fossil fuels.
5. Life is pointless anyway.
It's like peak libertarianism.
 
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It's like peak libertarianism.

A lot of overlap, actually. Libertarianism has always been a reservoir where polluters and other industries could find apologists, enablers, and other useful idiots. Witness what the Kochs did to Cato.

J. S. Mill is disappoint.
 
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A lot of overlap, actually. Libertarianism has always been a reservoir where polluters and other industries could find apologists, enablers, and other useful idiots. Witness what the Kochs did to Cato.

J. S. Mill is disappoint.

I used to lean libertarian. The problem is when you realize that it is inflicting massive amounts of damage on everyone around you then you change. I don't mind libertarian views when it's not harmful to others (gay rights, pro-choice, etc.) but when you completely ignore good solid oversight, and regulation, I don't want anything to do with you anymore.
 
Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

A lot of overlap, actually. Libertarianism has always been a reservoir where polluters and other industries could find apologists, enablers, and other useful idiots. Witness what the Kochs did to Cato.

J. S. Mill is disappoint.
It's like the best of both worlds, the outright crony capitalism with no regard for human life of republicans combined with peak centrist, "bUt iT'S tOo hArD hOw wIlL wE pAy FoR iT!?!?!?".
 
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It's like the best of both worlds, the outright crony capitalism with no regard for human life of republicans combined with peak centrist, "bUt iT'S tOo hArD hOw wIlL wE pAy FoR iT!?!?!?".

A perfect place for them to hide. Nirvana.
 
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I used to lean libertarian. The problem is when you realize that it is inflicting massive amounts of damage on everyone around you then you change. I don't mind libertarian views when it's not harmful to others (gay rights, pro-choice, etc.) but when you completely ignore good solid oversight, and regulation, I don't want anything to do with you anymore.

You and me both. It's the perfect philosophy for sciency young white males. It appeals highly to our vanity and has a quasi-rationalist coherence like engineering (or, for that matter, Marxism). It's Objectivism for people who read.

Happily, because a lot of the people who initially fall for it are pretty smart, it's also fairly easy to escape from, unlike Rand who, since it attracts the stupid and unimaginative, holds them in thrall for a lifetime.
 
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That day is coming no matter what any of us do. In the meantime, enjoy the ride.

alfa, some day you will be dead. Nature demands it; it's the funny thing about life, none of us get out of it alive.

But there's a difference between accepting the eventual certainty of death and engaging in behaviors and policies that add to the suffering of millions, most of whom live in areas of the world where people are already suffering.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Scalise sidesteps climate change debate: Earth's temperature "goes up and down" <a href="https://t.co/D6d8rEHDSz">https://t.co/D6d8rEHDSz</a> <a href="https://t.co/dn3RZt7yHX">pic.twitter.com/dn3RZt7yHX</a></p>— CBS News (@CBSNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1139563143619895296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Scalise sidesteps climate change debate: Earth's temperature "goes up and down" <a href="https://t.co/D6d8rEHDSz">https://t.co/D6d8rEHDSz</a> <a href="https://t.co/dn3RZt7yHX">pic.twitter.com/dn3RZt7yHX</a></p>— CBS News (@CBSNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1139563143619895296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 14, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Or, the other way of saying it.

“I understand the weather pattern picks up the Calcutta Clipper — swings down, swings up, lake front influence, then out.” - Denny Green, ex-Viking Head Football Coach.
 
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You and me both. It's the perfect philosophy for sciency young white males. It appeals highly to our vanity and has a quasi-rationalist coherence like engineering (or, for that matter, Marxism). It's Objectivism for people who read.

Happily, because a lot of the people who initially fall for it are pretty smart, it's also fairly easy to escape from, unlike Rand who, since it attracts the stupid and unimaginative, holds them in thrall for a lifetime.
I will say libertarians are like the one group outside of (some) dem socialists that actually cares about how large the national security apparatus has gotten, domestic surveillance, and actually ending our awful foreign policy, ending the war on drugs etc. or at least that used to be the case during the Bush era. That's part of what drew me to that ideology previously.
 
That day is coming no matter what any of us do. In the meantime, enjoy the ride.

alfa, some day you will be dead. Nature demands it; it's the funny thing about life, none of us get out of it alive.

So since we are all just going to die anyway, the it would be totally ok for someone to murder you and your family. As long as you enjoy the ride.

Got it.

edit- it's interesting to see the responses of people who totally buy into the jobs and money are the most important things ever line of thinking. Especially when that line is coming from people who are going to make a HUGE amount of money on your labor and harm. The version of capitalism that is being sold to us today is the kind that ends up with a pretty violent revolution, when the people left behind have nothing to lose. But, for the moment, the great manipulators in the sky have managed to make factions of those people fight each other instead of the end cause of who is harming all of us.
 
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