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Cars: 2015

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At what point is a restored car no longer considered the same car?

But very exciting nonetheless.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
At what point is a restored car no longer considered the same car?

But very exciting nonetheless.
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thats why i think the price projected is bs. there are pics of it with 2 superchargers. But no doubt Shelby had other drivetrains in it also.

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I'm not really knowledgeable in the rules of restoration, but from what little I've learned, if you keep it as close to original as you can, preferably original parts...even if it's Frankenstein (so no matching numbers), it counts. Matching numbers and such is bonus.

WPoS from GPL restored a 50's Dodge truck from the ground up, from what I understand, all original except tires, for obvious driving reasons. I would count that as original. He COULD have gotten the original tires, but he wants to actually drive it now and again.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I'm not really knowledgeable in the rules of restoration, but from what little I've learned, if you keep it as close to original as you can, preferably original parts...even if it's Frankenstein (so no matching numbers), it counts. Matching numbers and such is bonus.

WPoS from GPL restored a 50's Dodge truck from the ground up, from what I understand, all original except tires, for obvious driving reasons. I would count that as original. He COULD have gotten the original tires, but he wants to actually drive it now and again.
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Mustangs, No numbers on body parts(possible VIN on some stuff), date codes is as close as you can get on drivetrain stuff. The VIN and body tags tell the story of what was in car originally. He took kevin Marti to car as Marti owns all of Fords old Mustang database. Marti can tell you what was in the car from Factory based on VIN. But Shelby stuff would have to be further researched, pics found, guys who who were there working on car etc. Without a paper trail (which the 64.5 has) the value is less. I would think Jackson is working on the paper trail.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
At what point is a restored car no longer considered the same car?

But very exciting nonetheless.
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It really depends on the car.

For a mass produced car, having the original parts is pretty darned important. Otherwise, it's another drop in the sea of Mustangs.

For a prototype, there's no real way of knowing what the original parts were, since they may not have been documented very well. That, and the more one is allowed to build a car like that, the more money can be made- so it's likely that Shelby American bent some of the rules so that they can make more money.

Other, rarer and more valuable cars follow the same trend- I know many manufacturers will testify that a car that started with a bare minimum level of parts as well as some kind of document displaying that the rest of the original car is gone- the remaining restoration will be called original. I've seen examples of cars that just had a frame and a few parts found underground restored to multi million dollar cars, and 100% accepted. And I know that companies like Aston Martin will rebuild a car that was destroyed in some way (say a race related fire) and they will cal it original. For those cars, less than 10% of the parts are original vs. fabricated new.
 
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Ran into a guy with a Fiat 124 Spider Abarth at lunch today. It's manufactured by Mazda and basically a Miata in everything but name, but with a turbocharged Fiat engine (believe it's the same one out of the 500 Abarth.)

God that looks tempting - I think the Miata is a better car from a technical standpoint, but I like the Fiata's styling better.
 
Twitch Boy said:
Ran into a guy with a Fiat 124 Spider Abarth at lunch today. It's manufactured by Mazda and basically a Miata in everything but name, but with a turbocharged Fiat engine (believe it's the same one out of the 500 Abarth.)

God that looks tempting - I think the Miata is a better car from a technical standpoint, but I like the Fiata's styling better.
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The Fiata is lame in the city. The turbo 1.4L is crazy laggy. I've heard it's suspension is tuned better though, less body roll
 
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Twitch Boy said:
Ran into a guy with a Fiat 124 Spider Abarth at lunch today. It's manufactured by Mazda and basically a Miata in everything but name, but with a turbocharged Fiat engine (believe it's the same one out of the 500 Abarth.)

God that looks tempting - I think the Miata is a better car from a technical standpoint, but I like the Fiata's styling better.
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Kinda looks like an Italian-flavored Mustang...?
 
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state of hockey said:
The Fiata is lame in the city. The turbo 1.4L is crazy laggy. I've heard it's suspension is tuned better though, less body roll
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That's the vibe I was getting - the extra torque over the Miata is nice, but the turbo lag cancels it out.

And as for the engine..."We're an Italian make infamous for questionable build quality - I know, let's partner with Chrysler!"

Then again, you're an ECU flash away from 200 HP and stomping every Miata on the planet...
 
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On my drive to Rochester (MN) last night, saw a purple Diablo. Dam that thing was pretty.
 
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