Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

Why should he? You didn't care about him following the tradition of releasing his taxes. Does he really have any reason to follow the tradition of putting his business interests into a blind trust?

As far as taxes, the NY Times took care of that for him.

But if he's going to fly the Clinton Foundation pay-for-play rhetoric he'd better be willing to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. (If he doesn't, it'll confirm why I didn't vote for him.)

 

[MaizeRage]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

As far as taxes, the NY Times took care of that for him.

But if he's going to fly the Clinton Foundation pay-for-play rhetoric he'd better be willing to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. (If he doesn't, it'll confirm why I didn't vote for him.)

One tax return from twenty years ago did not "take care of that".

And don't kid yourself. The reason you didn't vote for him is because you're a gutless coward who wanted to be able to say "Don't blame me, I didn't support him" after spending months and months supporting him.

 

[5mn_Major]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

Apparently the UK Daily Mail wasn't impressed with Mr. Obama's pre-trip press conference today.

Headline: Condescending Obama says Trump can't keep his promises as he warns his successor's 'temperament' will be his undoing unless he 'corrects' it
Subhead: President Barack Obama delivered a patronizing series of backhanded compliments to Donald Trump in a Monday press conference

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...or-s-temperament-doom-unless-corrects-it.html

I wouldn't be surprised to see the headline come from Fox or the Mail. Both are conservative mouthpieces.

 

[joecct]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

...Meanwhile, Trump is asking for highest-level security clearance for his awful kids that are supposed to be running his "blind trust" when he takes office.

Latest from T^3 (Trump Transition Team) is no clearances have been asked for (Washington Examiner)

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

One tax return from twenty years ago did not "take care of that".

And don't kid yourself. The reason you didn't vote for him is because you're a gutless coward who wanted to be able to say "Don't blame me, I didn't support him" after spending months and months supporting him.

The NY Times got the "hasn't paid taxes" proof out there. It should've been his undoing.

If I was a gutless coward, I would have supported him. I took a stand that I couldn't vote for Mr. Trump. You try doing that in a deep red state.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

NY Times has some deeper demographics breakdowns from last week.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html?_r=0

The one that gets me: White college graduates were still 49/45 Trump.

The most telling one: Residence. It is an urban/rural disconnect with the suburbs as the pseudo-DMZ.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

It would seem reasonable that the kids would either be "advisors" (and needing clearance) or running the family business (the blind trust). Working both would lead to too many potential conflicts. (Dare I say it would echo of Huma, "my second daughter", working for SecState Clinton and Huma working for Clinton Foundation Clinton.) If Trump's serious it's a straight up "or"; no crossover.

Echo? It would be way worse. If they run his businesses AND have top secret clearance that could lead to abuses of power the likes of which I am not sure we have seen. This is like breeding "Pay for Play" with Wall Street (the film) level Insider trading.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

Latest from T^3 (Trump Transition Team) is no clearances have been asked for (Washington Examiner)

Pardon me if I dont hold the Washington Examiner in high esteem. CNN, CBS and NBC are all saying they did. (Andrea Mitchell confirmed it with her source) They are all ten times more reliable than the Examiner.

Chances are they asked, were denied or saw the backlash (or both) and now are circling the wagons. But hey...draining the swamp!!!

The crap this guy is trying to pull makes even the crap they made up about Hillary look tame.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

Apparently the UK Daily Mail wasn't impressed with Mr. Obama's pre-trip press conference today.

Headline: Condescending Obama says Trump can't keep his promises as he warns his successor's 'temperament' will be his undoing unless he 'corrects' it
Subhead: President Barack Obama delivered a patronizing series of backhanded compliments to Donald Trump in a Monday press conference

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...or-s-temperament-doom-unless-corrects-it.html

Not a Trumpster.

 

[burd]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

The NY Times got the "hasn't paid taxes" proof out there. It should've been his undoing.

If I was a gutless coward, I would have supported him. I took a stand that I couldn't vote for Mr. Trump. You try doing that in a deep red state.

I haven't seen the numbers, Sic, but wasn't North Dakota pretty deep red on this one? I have some relatives and friends back there whom I like and respect who I'm certain voted Trump.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

I haven't seen the numbers, Sic, but wasn't North Dakota pretty deep red on this one? I have some relatives and friends back there whom I like and respect who I'm certain voted Trump.

Hillary received just under 28% in ND as compared to the President's 39% in 2012. All counties except for where Standing Rocks is and another reservation county in the north were red.

I was looking the other day and was reminded Iowa has gone solidly blue 5 of the last 6 (2004 0.6% squeaker for Bush). The President won by Iowa by 10 and by 6. Hillary lost Iowa by 11 points.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

I haven't seen the numbers, Sic, but wasn't North Dakota pretty deep red on this one?

Ya'might say that: 64/28 Trump.

And I live in a county that borders Minnesota that is traditionally as "blue" as it gets around here and it was all Trump'd-up.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

I haven't seen the numbers, Sic, but wasn't North Dakota pretty deep red on this one? I have some relatives and friends back there whom I like and respect who I'm certain voted Trump.

That is what he said. He said he isnt a coward because he didnt vote for Trump in a state that was deep red. I think you read it wrong...

Trump Supporters Tweeting Anti Semetic Messages to Emmy Rossum

Just remember though racism was a not the reason Trump got elected. Steve Bannon must be so pleased.

#thanksmichigan #thankswiscosnin

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

Hillary received just under 28% in ND as compared to the President's 39% in 2012. All counties except for where Standing Rocks is and another reservation county in the north were red.

Standing Rock Sioux (Sioux County, on SD border) and Turtle Mountain Chippewa (Rollette County, on Canadian border) were the only two blue.

The other two reservations:
- the Spirit Lake Sioux were the lightest red county on the map (south of Turtle Mountain)
- the Three Affiliated Tribes (Mandan, Hidatsa, Arikara), on the Fort Berthold Reservation, with vast oil reserves under them, were just another western red county

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

Not a Trumpster.

I've brought in articles on Kim Jong Un -- so I'm North Korean too?

 

[RENCEB]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

I saw David McCullough on 60 minutes a few years back and he said that since the formation of our country people have been saying we're going to hell.

The thing that concerns me more than anything else, and it never gets talked about, is that the national debt has quadrupled since the turn of the century. Apparently Trump wants to lower taxes but I'm not sure how on earth that makes any sense. I'm sure all of us would love to pay less taxes but we can't continue to go further and further in debt. At some point there are going to have to be significant changes to both sides of the P&L, and I hoped this is something he would confront, but it sounds like at this point he isn't going to.

And you can't just declare bankruptcy and start over on this one.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

I've brought in articles on Kim Jong Un -- so I'm North Korean too?

It is a bit weird that you quote the Daily Mail as if it was legit. Even Fish has a lighter touch; he'd probably blanch at the Washington Times.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

NY Times has some deeper demographics breakdowns from last week.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html?_r=0

The one that gets me: White college graduates were still 49/45 Trump.

The most telling one: Residence. It is an urban/rural disconnect with the suburbs as the pseudo-DMZ.

Also take a look at the connection to "sanctuary" cities and counties, where illegals vote. They went much closer towards, or flipped to, Clinton.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

Rudy or John Bolton being floated as Secretary of State.
Jeff Sessions being floated as Attorney General.
Rudy apparently turned down Attorney General.
The kids are going to run daddy's company (no blind trust) and are being given Top Security Clearance.
Bannon in the White House.

Have we seen enough now to make a judgement?

Americans are ****ing stupid.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

Populism—ostensibly a belief in the rights, wisdom, or virtues of the common people—often requires a bogeyman, be it an existing government, the supposed cultural elite, the media, or a particular ethnic, racial, or religious group.

Like I've said, every political actor needs a talisman to waive about to inspire awe.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-15/populism-takes-over-the-world-ivjisbhu