Campaign XXVI: The Drumpf World Order

[Almington]

msnbc been telling mookie that there were a bunch of peeps that voted bho last 2 elections and then went for tD this time around. so there is something more to "they didn't show up".

And I'm sure that people who voted for Romney last time who voted for Clinton this time (of course they likely died and it was just Democratic voter fraud machine at work) but that number is much smaller than the difference in turnout numbers.

If MSNBC wants to focus on what voters flipped to Trump I'm sure that's a much better story than focusing on who didn't vote because it plays better into the "all the poor whites are racist and sexist" narrative that is being pushed.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Wisconsin? I'm at a loss.

I don't see why. They voted for Walker over and over again. They're a Red State now. North Carolina is lost forever. So is Florida and Ohio. Get used to the Government of Paul Ryan cause that's the present and future.

 

[mookie1995]

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so the UN is claiming that isis is stockpiling chemical weapons????

from where did those come?

 

[bigblue_dl]

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I know why he won them. The same reason the GOP wins them every time. I also know he won't deliver.

One example that doesn't mention the word 'taxation': http://grist.org/briefly/the-farmers-who-voted-for-trump-may-be-in-for-disappointment/

If you think its taxes, you're wrong. I grew up in farm country, my parents are farmers, and I still have many friends and family that farm. When Obama was elected there were several that supported him and voted for him. This time around, nearly 100% Trump. The reason why, for almost 100% of them? Their health care and insurance costs have increased by about a factor of 7 under Obama.

 

[Kepler]

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If you think its taxes, you're wrong. I grew up in farm country, my parents are farmers, and I still have many friends and family that farm. When Obama was elected there were several that supported him and voted for him. This time around, nearly 100% Trump. The reason why, for almost 100% of them? Their health care and insurance costs have increased by about a factor of 7 under Obama.

The sitting administration can always be blamed for systemic problems. Likewise, it is always harder to defend actuals than promise hypothetical fixes.

We may be heading for churn, where the incumbent party is forever being voted out.

 

[The Rube]

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The sitting administration can always be blamed for systemic problems. Likewise, it is always harder to defend actuals than promise hypothetical fixes.

We may be heading for churn, where the incumbent party is forever being voted out.

Well, in the health care case, Obama is indeed directly responsible for that.

As far as economy/etc, every president gets either too much blame or too much credit. There are too many moving parts/etc in the economy for one person to be really responsible for it.

 

[rufus]

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That makes him different from other politicians?

He's not supposed to be other politicians. He "tells it like it is".

Simple solution. Apportion Electoral College votes according to the percentage of statewide voting. No more winner take all. Simple. Now just need the Constitutional Amendment doing it to get passed.

 

[joecct]

The sitting administration can always be blamed for systemic problems. Likewise, it is always harder to defend actuals than promise hypothetical fixes.

We may be heading for churn, where the incumbent party is forever being voted out.

Well the incumbents better be voted out otherwise you get Russia.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Been listening to some hard news reports the last couple of days. People have no idea what's coming. It's going to be a rude awakening.

 

[Handyman]

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Middle Schoolers in Michigan chanting "Build the Wall" to the Latino Students in their class...

(CNN Has a better video)

Racist Problems at Penn...Drumpf's Alma Mater

I am sure we will hear that race isnt really an issue here though. That seemed to be the mantra of some that posted on this board whenever a racial issue came about. This cancer is everywhere, it is spreading and now the Country's Immune System is compromised so it is unfettered and running rampant.

Still nothing from the GOP or the Sexual Predator. I am sure they are working on the problem...meanwhile they are probably going to make their 3rd or 4th announcement about ObamaCare since the Election cause well that is the important stuff. They are just sitting back like Nero because why would they care about minorities anyways...

 

[Handyman]

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Read an article that in Wisconsin, the number of GOP votes from 2012 to 2016 was constant. The number of Dem votes declined.

So if you want, you could say that Wisconsin did not vote for tD, but refused to vote for Clinton.

Its the same with Michigan and similar with Pennsylvania. (overall Drumpf had less votes than Romney did) Those states screwed the country because they wanted to prove a point. That is why people like Scooby are ****ed because we all have to suffer because they wanted to say "F You".

 

[Handyman]

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It's called desperation. Anything to emotionally pull people back to their globalist rhetoric. Guess what, you lost. Take it on the chin. You bragged eight years ago about you survived Bush and we'll survive Obama? Well let me tell you something: We survived Obama. You will survive Trump.

Will you survive your schizophrenia? Keep pretending you dont support the Predator in Chief though funny your BS 4chan rants have subsided since he was elected. I wonder why that is...

 

[Almington]

Well, in the health care case, Obama is indeed directly responsible for that.

Hogwash, healthcare costs have been rising faster than inflation since the 70s. Even if Obama had not been elected, health insurance cost still would have dramatically increased in the last 8 years because the increase in the underlying health care costs have only accelerated.

 

[rufus]

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Destroying the establishment. Looking out for the little guy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/11/11/if-you-voted-for-trump-because-hes-anti-establishment-guess-what-you-got-conned/

 

[burd]

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Hogwash, healthcare costs have been rising faster than inflation since the 70s. Even if Obama had not been elected, health insurance cost still would have dramatically increased in the last 8 years because the increase in the underlying health care costs have only accelerated.

The truth. Everybody knew health care costs were increasing faster than people could afford to pay since prior to the first Clinton term, that's why this administration tried to address it. By the time Obama came along, it was not a question of whether the system needed to change but how.

 

[rufus]

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https://www.facebook.com/hateLBM/photos/a.359409894150030.90263.359407967483556/1151649618259383/?type=3

 

[walrus]

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Hogwash, healthcare costs have been rising faster than inflation since the 70s. Even if Obama had not been elected, health insurance cost still would have dramatically increased in the last 8 years because the increase in the underlying health care costs have only accelerated.

Yes but they made the mistake of calling and selling their plan as the Affordable care act and its been anything but affordable. The grass is always greener even if its not

 

[aparch]

Destroying the establishment. Looking out for the little guy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/11/11/if-you-voted-for-trump-because-hes-anti-establishment-guess-what-you-got-conned/

He sold a quarter of the nation a monorail. And they told Marge to shut the hell up.

 

[MaizeRage]

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If you think its taxes, you're wrong. I grew up in farm country, my parents are farmers, and I still have many friends and family that farm. When Obama was elected there were several that supported him and voted for him. This time around, nearly 100% Trump. The reason why, for almost 100% of them? Their health care and insurance costs have increased by about a factor of 7 under Obama.

Anyone can make a right choice if it's easy. But when forced to prioritize, they Just Didn't Care.

Here's a good one for the Just Don't Cares out there. Bill Cosby's lawyer filed a court motion yesterday that said, in part, once he settles his cases, "...he expects to resume his career, and there is no reason to believe otherwise." I'm not sure I can disagree with that.

 

[Almington]

Yes but they made the mistake of calling and selling their plan as the Affordable care act and its been anything but affordable. The grass is always greener even if its not

When half the country is doing everything they can to make this effort fail, it's not surprising that it did.

Next time we have health care reform, it will be for the public option, and the losers will be the heath insurers, drug developers, and health care providers. Because that's what will come eventually unless the Republicans in congress pull a magic rabbit out of their ***, particularly if they manage to blow up Medicare.

Of course it will be 25 years before any politician is willing to take the risk of touching health insurance reform.