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Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

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Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

I have no idea if the rate of incidence is increasing. But the gross number of cases increasing likely has much to do with the simple aging of the population. Shingles primarily hits older people, and the population in this country is getting progressively older. We'd therefore expect more cases, all else being equal.

You know what else I never heard about before that seems to be all over the place now? Cellulitis. I assume it's related to obesity. And possibly O.D.ing on antibiotics throughout life. We should have a medical issues thread so the doctors can school us on these things.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

I don't want to be labeled an across the board conservative because I'm not. I have no issue being labeled conservative on issues I take a conservative view on.

I doubt there's anybody who is truly an across-the-board anything. So, although we can agree that labels are less interesting than getting to know the real person in all their complexity, still if somebody is typically on one side of the political spectrum they're going to be labeled as such just out of convenience.

If all else fails, just ask yourself: who irritates you more, left or right? Whatever your answer, you're the other. :)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Here's something I've wondered about (I admit I just blindly follow doctor's orders without knowing much about all factors involved). The chicken pox vaccine. When I was a kid, you got chicken pox, you were itchy for a while, and you were immune for the rest of your life. Nowadays kids get the shot, they're immune throughout childhood, the immunity wanes because nobody gets the proper boosters as an adult, and they are susceptible to "shingles" (adult chicken pox) which is actually dangerous. Is this an improvement? Am I misunderstanding? Are we really trading a harmless (without complications) childhood illness for a deadly adult one? There's something here I don't understand.

So I am shooting from the hip here as I am too lazy to look everything up :)

On a point by point basis.
If you get chicken pox as a kid, you are immune but that does not mean that you will never get it again. It is possible, just highly unlikely. Kind of the same reason vaccines increase immunity but are not infallible.

The kids that are immune because of the vaccine have a similar immunity but not necessarily the same immunity. If you wonder why people need "boosters" of stuff, it is because immunity is not sufficient after one dose or the immunity fades. In fact, all immunity fades as we age.

With regards to shingles, it is not really "adult chickenpox" as just chickenpox. It is the same virus, which is a herpes virus. When we get chickenpox and our immune system fights it back. However, herpes viruses are notorious for hiding out. Indeed, the chickenpox virus hides out in our ganglion (collection of neural cell bodies) and strikes when our immune system is susceptible. This susceptibility can occur from another sickness, or age, or just bad chance. The shingles vaccine is trying to re-educate our immune system to keep that pesky virus in check, that is always there.

Shingles has a "dermatomal" pattern because a single dermatome is innervated by a single ganglion. Lose control of the immune response of a ganglion...bam shingles.

Shingles is, as far as I know, less dangerous than chickenpox. Shingles is much more painful, but it is not a systemic infection and does not lead to as many or serious complications such as encephalopathy.

And the last point. If I remember correctly from some of my board studying, people who have received the chicken pox vaccination (compared to having chickenpox) have a much lower rate of shingles. If anything, the chickenpox vaccination should eliminate shingles within a few generations if we have high enough vaccination rates.
 
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Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Speaking of nucking futs.

This week in Republicans.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...ng-racially-charged-messages?cid=sm_fb_maddow

A top adviser to Illinois Rep. Aaron Schock has resigned after controversial posts were found on his Facebook page.

Benjamin Cole, a senior adviser to Schock, told POLITICO he resigned and that Schock, a Republican, accepted his resignation. The posts had Cole likening black people to animals and said a mosque should be built on the White House grounds for President Barack Obama.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Hey if people dont want to vaccinate their kids I am all for it. That said if they make that choice and their kids get any disease that would have been preventable they are not allowed to receive treatment unless they pay out of pocket on he spot. Does that work for everyone...what say you Bob on the Cross?

As for the idiot Republican you posted about Scoob...I wish Obama was Muslim cause the heart attacks from the Tea Partiers and and other GOPers would help get rid of the Boomers which would make the world a better place. You gotta love a party that talks about freedom so much but seems to hate other people having any. Last I checked being Muslim is protected under the Constitution ;)
 
You know what else I never heard about before that seems to be all over the place now? Cellulitis. I assume it's related to obesity. And possibly O.D.ing on antibiotics throughout life. We should have a medical issues thread so the doctors can school us on these things.

Isn't Cellulitis the condition where they sell you "lite" products?
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Shingles is, as far as I know, less dangerous than chickenpox. Shingles is much more painful, but it is not a systemic infection and does not lead to as many or serious complications such as encephalopathy.

And the last point. If I remember correctly from some of my board studying, people who have received the chicken pox vaccination (compared to having chickenpox) have a much lower rate of shingles. If anything, the chickenpox vaccination should eliminate shingles within a few generations if we have high enough vaccination rates.

I appreciate you taking the time for this. I had a wrong understanding about a lot of it.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Hey if people dont want to vaccinate their kids I am all for it. That said if they make that choice and their kids get any disease that would have been preventable they are not allowed to receive treatment unless they pay out of pocket on he spot. Does that work for everyone...what say you Bob on the Cross?

Not going to speak for Bob on the Cross, but that doesn't work for me. My fictional daughter wasn't vaccinated for medical reasons and I don't want her to catch a disease from your imaginary child who didn't get vaccinated because you're a loon.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Not going to speak for Bob on the Cross, but that doesn't work for me. My fictional daughter wasn't vaccinated for medical reasons and I don't want her to catch a disease from your imaginary child who didn't get vaccinated because you're a loon.

It seems like the two places this stupidity is most common is redneck country (big surprise) and Marin County.

I must say, we're probably never going to get another opportunity to eliminate the herpa-derps and the 1% in one go. With a little bit of forethought to protect the rest of us... I'm just saying let's not be too hasty.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Not going to speak for Bob on the Cross, but that doesn't work for me. My fictional daughter wasn't vaccinated for medical reasons and I don't want her to catch a disease from your imaginary child who didn't get vaccinated because you're a loon.

Exactly. But, Bob doesn't care about that.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - Run-HRC? Honest Injun? Gott Mitt Himmel? RyanRubioCruzCrud?

Sure. There should be travel bans to the US cause we don't vaccinate against Measles. Arguably the most contagious disease on the planet.

To hell with it, we should just send some blankets over to ISIS and let nature run its course.
 
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