Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is awful

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

So is calling this Bobby Kennedy II.

Just another reason to bury (electorally!) this P.O.S. and all his P.O.S. Nelson Muntzes on Tuesday. History will tell how a bunch of illiterate, racist, gun-wielding f-ckstains incited to paranoia and violence by the looking glass of right wing media and a seditious bully whose emotional, intellectual and moral development had been arrested in junior high school tried to stuff the rest of the country in a locker, and the rest of the country methodically, peacefully, and decisively disarmed them and sent them to the principle's office.

Replace right with left, and the same thing could be said about the mindless rhetoric you've been placing on here.

Hence, the thread title.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Keep in mind that another guy has plead guilty to trying to take a police officer's gun and assassinate Trump in Vegas less than two months ago. I would guess that Trump's Secret Service detail is on pretty high alert, and when somebody yells "He's got a gun!" (reported in that article, possibly either because they saw the guy reach for his waist band or because someone saw a plain clothes cop with a gun, or both) ten feet from Trump, the response should be quick and overwhelming. I have zero problem with the reaction. Everyone there has passed through metal detectors on the way in, so the crowd response to believing someone had a gun isn't innapropriate. Somebody did actually have a gun, the unarmed people that jump him would be considered heroic.

Calling these two situations equivalent is just dumb.

And they can be on high alert...problem is all he had was a sign that said "Republicans Against Trump".

And it wasnt the secret service that beat him for holding up the sign it was the morons in the audience that worship the sexual predator. (yes he is one, no I wont stop calling him that) From the report in The Guardian:

Initially, there was the expected reaction of people around him booing, he said. “And then all of a sudden people next to me are starting to get violent; they’re grabbing at my arm, trying to rip the sign out of my hand,” he said.

He said he could not be sure but “it looked like” Drumpf was pointing at him, and may have been “instigating something”. Either way, the crowd piled on him, he said, kicking, punching, holding him on the ground and grabbing his testicles.

He said he was a wrestler in his youth and used his training to turn his head to the side to maintain an airway open as he was being choked by one man who had him in a headlock. “But there were people wrenching on my neck they could have strangled me to death,” he added.

For his part, Crites said he felt relieved when police arrived and placed him in handcuffs, but said officers had to fend off Drumpf supporters who continued to attack him. “As I was taken from the room, people are just looking at me like I’m a demon,” he said.

Look, you want to boo a guy, even rip the sign out of his hand that is expected. Wrestling the dude to the ground, punching him and choking him...sorry but there is no defense to that. And even if you discount it in this case (which there is no reason too) it has happened before and we have video. Hell I wouldnt be surprised if the "he has a gun" exclamation was actually "someone get a gun" because these people arent rational. Take a step back and see...the Cult of Personality that is going on is what you all pretended we did with Obama. If Drumpf ran as a candidate from the "Only Morons Vote For Me Party" they would be there ready willing and able. They dont care about the Constitution...hell they probably couldnt recite you anything in it besides the 2nd Amendment. They care about getting "their" country back. They are the Tea Party on steroids half drunk on moonshine and they are downright scary.

You can choose to defend them if you like...but if I was Reagan Republican I would want this element out of my party as soon as possible. We have all seen this stuff before only it is in newsreels or video clips from other countries. This is not Left/Right...this is America/Fascism.

 

[French Rage]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Wow, the spin is real here...

Please explain what weapon the assassination would be committed with, you halfwit dip****.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Hillary wins Nickeloden kids vote 53-36.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Paul Ryan a.k.a. scumbag.

It is amazing how fast a lot of those Republicans with mothers, sisters, wives and daughters forgot about the Sexual Predator at the top of the ticket and still support him. Bunch of spineless wimps...so afraid of the Brown Shirts and the Fundies that they cant even do what is decent. If Ronald Reagan were alive not only would he be reviled by his own Party (outside of Trickle Down they dont exactly hold true to his beliefs) but he would endorse Clinton just like the Bushes.

#beentheredonethat

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

no matter how they were tallied. count them all at once on tuesday

They arent counting the ballots by vote, just tallying them based on the affiliation with the voter. (and comparing it the trends of the county) The numbers arent official.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Please explain what weapon the assassination would be committed with, you halfwit dip****.

Why do you not have him on block?

He's either an unhinged moron or a troll. Neither is worth your time.

 

[geezer]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Chuck Todd has Clinton winning easily if she gets fla. If not she still wins but it's closer. Trump has to flip blue states
Not going to happen.

I heard a thing on NPR where Nate Silver has gone all in on calling Florida and other swing states (Nevada, I believe, and NC, maybe others) for Trump, giving him a 35% chance of winning it all. Almost everyone in the world disagrees with him so this is the election where either Nate's reputed prophetic powers are proven, or he'll never be heard from again. That at least will be fun to watch, and it will likely be determined by Florida's vote. (Mind, Trump would still have very little chance of actually winning the presidency, even in Silver's alternate reality)

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Please explain what weapon the assassination would be committed with, you halfwit dip****.

Please explain why else they'd get the Treasury involved, you partisan ****wad.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

I really don't like hearing the returns or exit polling coming from early voting.

It's also much more likely to see democrats vote early so the numbers are probably skewed. Republicans like to get their freedom erection by voting on Election Day like God intended.

The returns outside of Ohio are tracking right where Clinton needs them to be to do well. The Latino vote in Nevada is is going to keep that state with Clinton and the huge turnout of Latinos in Florida (along with women) is going to help here in a state even 538 has as a tossup. I dont know if she will win, but even Silver is saying because of her better ground game.

From 538 in the the November 5th update:

But there are the makings of a coherent story here about how turnout either salvages the election for Clinton, or allows her to turn a narrow win into a more emphatic one and beat her polls. It’s not just that Clinton is turning out her voters early, but also that some of them are so-called low-propensity voters who weren’t necessarily making it through likely voter screens. Furthermore, Clinton’s coalition is broader than Drumpf’s to begin with, so if she gets a good turnout she’ll probably win, even if Drumpf does also. So if I’m Drumpf, I’m not happy about the early-voting numbers, and I can imagine myself losing despite picking off a state like Michigan because of problems in Nevada, North Carolina or Florida, where early voting plays a large role.

Again the early voting percentages dont lock in or guarantee anything obviously (as WaPo has pointed out)but the people early voting is a big deal. Just like it was bad for Clinton that the Black vote was down, the huge surge of Latino votes was not only unexpected but was probably missed by the polls altogether. When you see a 150% increase in a demographic, and that demographic is more than likely going towards 1 party, and that increase is in a crucial swing state...that is good news no matter what the spin is. Hell, even despite the NC BS trying to suppress the vote (which was shot down) they still set records for early voting and while Black Participation is still down from 2012 I dont think they are staying home on Tuesday.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Why do you not have him on block?

He's either an unhinged moron or a troll. Neither is worth your time.

Block only works if everyone agrees not to quote him...

 

[French Rage]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Please explain why else they'd get the Treasury involved, you partisan ****wad.

Because some numbnut in the crowd shouted "gun" while beating the guy whose sole act was holding up a sign, ****nugget. And there was no gun. I don't blame the SS, just doing their job, but there was no assassination, dildo.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Please explain why else they'd get the Treasury involved, you partisan ****wad.

So you cant answer his question...go back to 4chan

 

[aparch]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Please explain what weapon the assassination would be committed with, you halfwit dip****.

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Paper cuts. Vicious paper cuts.



(Side note: the movie Pentagon Wars is hilarious. Sad that it's a true story, but hilarious.)

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

I heard a thing on NPR where Nate Silver has gone all in on calling Florida and other swing states (Nevada, I believe, and NC, maybe others) for Trump, giving him a 35% chance of winning it all. Almost everyone in the world disagrees with him so this is the election where either Nate's reputed prophetic powers are proven, or he'll never be heard from again. That at least will be fun to watch, and it will likely be determined by Florida's vote. (Mind, Trump would still have very little chance of actually winning the presidency, even in Silver's alternate reality)

Nate is kind of hedging his bet because of what happened in the Primaries. He has Florida going to Clinton despite the numbers being a statistical tie. (the projected voter share has Drumpf by .4% which is nothing) North Carolina is even less than that (48.1-47.8) and he gave it to Drumpf. Hell he has Drumpf winning Nevada and it is .1! (46.7-46.6)

Even with all that Clinton gets 290 so it doesnt matter...

I see what Nate is doing, and I am not ripping him for it at all because technically he is right to do it that way and he is protected by the fact that he has Hillary winning anyways. What he should do, and refuses to do, is make toss up options so he has hard lines in the sand. He isnt tipping the scale or anything like the article posted yesterday says...but he is definitely giving the toss ups to Drumpf when in reality no one has a claim to them. The fact that he is going to be wrong about Nevada either way shows the ultimate flaw in his system...once the votes come in the polls just dont matter in the aggregate anymore. He should be finding ways to weight them against the added influx of information on early voting.

Nate is what he is...a sabermetrics type guy who can definitely project trends but forgets that these things are played out on paper but in real life. He even admits it...the polls in Florida are problematic because the large influx of Latinos most likely were missed because they dont vote super often. There is no way for his projections to account for those who arent polled.

(sorry I dont mean to be preachy)

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

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Paper cuts. Vicious paper cuts.



(Side note: the movie Pentagon Wars is hilarious. Sad that it's a true story, but hilarious.)

Hell yeah it is!

 

[walrus]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

And on Wednesday, after running a campaign based on fear of the other candidate, the winner (regardless of who it is) will declare a mandate from the people.

Both of them will be in court defending charges by January

 

[ticapnews]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

The thugs who beat up Austyn Crites at the Sniffles rally have been arrested and charged with assault and battery, right?

 

[Rover]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

. The fact that he is going to be wrong about Nevada either way shows the ultimate flaw in his system...once the votes come in the polls just dont matter in the aggregate anymore. He should be finding ways to weight them against the added influx of information on early voting.

Nate is what he is...a sabermetrics type guy who can definitely project trends but forgets that these things are played out on paper but in real life. He even admits it...the polls in Florida are problematic because the large influx of Latinos most likely were missed because they dont vote super often. There is no way for his projections to account for those who arent polled.

(sorry I dont mean to be preachy)

Preach on Brother Handy! I too don't get polling a race and totally disregarding what's actually happening in terms of early votes. CNN had Trump up 7% in Nevada while 2/3rds of the vote is in and Hillary is probably up by 6 or 7% in actual votes? Oookaaayyy...

Yes yes I understand old people who lean to Trump are more likely to show up on Election day. But if she has a 10% lead as alleged in both FL and NC and 60-70% of the total vote is already in, you have to bake that into any prediction at this point.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

The thugs who beat up Austyn Crites at the Sniffles rally have been arrested and charged with assault and battery, right?

That's going to put a kink in Wisko's narrat-, er, spin-cycle.