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Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is awful

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Perhaps, but they are as entitled to voice their opinion as anyone, and especially given the sacrifices made, one should maybe consider giving them a fair hearing.

When I've talked to Vietnam Vets, this is what they tell me:

For one, they see the terrible problems at the VA and are ****ed.

But more to the point of this election, they see a lot of parallels with Iraq and Vietnam. And they look at what's happening right now ....

And they're full of s**t that should be looking to name the DoD as the main culprit not the White House.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

Here at Agganis for tonight's BU game. Guy sitting in my row wearing a Trump Pence tshirt. Blah.
 
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He probably just forgot to mention that detail. He definitely wouldn't leave that out intentionally.

Because he has no horse in this race, he hates Trump as much as he does Hillary, he'll tell you that himself.
 
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So it's classified now, but not then*. OK.

Yes, that's how this stuff works. I thought you used to work with classified information? You didn't know this? Departments will review stuff after the fact, and sometimes its status will change, and they'll decide that something needs to be classified. For whatever reasons, that stuff's above my pay grade.

And no, it's not classified now. You'll also see that it was declassified what, Feb 2016? Maybe because some investigative panel of Congress wanted to see it? Who knows. Maybe they decided the information contained in it didn't need to be classified after all. Maybe it was the CIA director's chocolate chip cookie recipe.
 
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Back in the day this gentleman was among the very baddest of the bad, a real heart-breaker and life-taker, and a GENUINE war HERO. The President was right to show him some respect, you dirty hippies.

But Obama's a dirty Commie Kenyan Muslim who is a disgrace to the office, and in cahoots with the Muslim Brotherhood to destroy America from within. How dare he show such class and respect to a man disrupting an event?

Others have said it before, but 20 or so years from now, people will look back and admire how this man represented the country and the dignity with which he conducted himself while in office.

Who wants to bet Obama met with this guy after?
 
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Yes, that's how this stuff works. I thought you used to work with classified information? You didn't know this? Departments will review stuff after the fact, and sometimes its status will change, and they'll decide that something needs to be classified. For whatever reasons, that stuff's above my pay grade.

And no, it's not classified now. You'll also see that it was declassified what, Feb 2016? Maybe because some investigative panel of Congress wanted to see it? Who knows. Maybe they decided the information contained in it didn't need to be classified after all. Maybe it was the CIA director's chocolate chip cookie recipe.

Overclassification is a big problem in the intel community. Agencies are specifically instructed that they may not classify material to avoid embarrassment or scrutiny, but it still happens. ORCON is a dissemination instruction which means that the originating entity continues to "own" information and if you receive it from them you may not in turn pass it on to another entity without their formal consent. Certain agencies are infamous at slapping it on everything they produce, completely ignoring their own classification guide.

In all honesty, blowing through a handful of "C" paragraphs is not a big deal. Not good, but not at all worthy of all the BS that has been ginned up about it. To put it in perspective, not only was it not TS, or even S, but it wasn't C/NF either. NF stands for NOFORN and means the material may not be passed to a foreign entity even if they have the proper compartmental tickets. A stand-alone C means, basically, squat.
 
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Milwaukee Admirals held a straw poll before tonight's game. First 5000 fans had the choice between Trump or Clinton bobble heads. Trump won by 27 "votes."

I weep for my future.
 
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Good news out of NV.

When early voting ended in Nevada's largest Clark County Friday night, Democrats had a nearly 73,000 vote advantage, larger than President Obama had four years ago when he won the state by 7 points.

The stats were gathered by Nevada's premier political reporter Jon Ralston, who wrote Saturday morning that Trump "needs a Miracle in Vegas on Election Day" to pull out a win in Nevada now.

Statewide – and without all the rural counties counted– it looked as if Democrats had a roughly 45,000 vote advantage in Nevada, Ralston reported. That translates into about a 6-point Democratic lead already banked going into Election Day, a sign that Clinton may pull out a win there and assist Democrats down ballot, too.

The highly contested race to fill the Senate seat of the retiring Harry Reid could determine who controls the Senate, giving the Nevada early voting numbers even more national significance.

Nevada has been a closely watched state this cycle, and the public polling has been close. Despite a larger Latino population, Trump was still polling within low, single digits of Clinton there, a reflection of both a large blue collar white population and a state that's battled a slower economic recovery.

Dave Wasserman, another data pundit and congressional race expert, warned that the early vote numbers in Nevada were a bad sign for down ballot Republicans who needed Trump not to crater at the top of the ticket.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XXIV: Both candidates are the same, but here's why yours is aw

So where do you read that it was an attempted assassination?

Why else would the Secret Service quickly escort him off the stage and then maul a guy in the crowd? Are people really that incoherent when it comes to putting pieces of a puzzle together...
 
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Why else would the Secret Service quickly escort him off the stage and then maul a guy in the crowd? Are people really that incoherent when it comes to putting pieces of a puzzle together...

It was obviously a case of law enforcement abuse of power. It always is, you know.
 
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Or not: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...us_581e817de4b0aac62484ecae?reb7468yvfybep14i

A pair of Secret Service agents grabbed and rushed the nominee off the stage as he was speaking. Some people in the crowd apparently panicked when someone shouted “gun” in response to a protester raising a sign. Law enforcement officials later said there was no weapon found at the scene, however.
 
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What a pansy. If Trump were a real man, he'd have stood his ground, pulled out his concealed pistol, and blown the guy away himself.

No kidding. He has the best security. It's YUUUUUUUUGE. And Russia is paying for it. They're the best security. :D
 
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