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Campaign 2016 Part XXI: Do you love farce? My fault, I fear.

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I don't believe he is talking about lewinsky, their are a few more accusations in Clinton's life.

Which were investigated in the Special Prosecutors investigation. So what? They looked into everything Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones...etc. and somehow they couldnt nail him for it. Even Gotti got nailed with less investigation and that dude was The Teflon Don.
 
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And last I checked, I'm not voting for Bill Clinton.

I didn't realize Republicans were so into yoga.
 
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And last I checked, I'm not voting for Bill Clinton.

I didn't realize Republicans were so into yoga.

And they seem to ferget that Donald cheated on his first wife with his second, and his second with his third. ;)

Hell, Newt Gingrich did as bad OR WORSE than Bill while he was railing against Bill.
 
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Don't forget Hassert. He actually did diddle children.
 
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I don't think that's the compliment you think it is. They both have a habit of spewing hateful (but it's usually subtly hateful, so that's better?:rolleyes:) bs, ignoring when they are called on it, then repeating it a week or two later.

The only stuff I have read of Bob and joe that I would call hateful comes from their religious principles. I agree from our worldview their attitudes towards gays and abortion are homophobic and misogynistic, respectively. I agree that they should be kept as far from the levers of power and policy as possible.

But there are lots of kids in this sandbox and if we ostracize every one of them that doesn't pass our ideological litmus test it's going to get very lonely. Particularly now, as the real world influence of their attitudes wanes, it is incumbent on us, the victors in the culture war, to distinguish between people who championed icky causes out of genuine principle, animated by good process (albeit with bad results), and the hypocrites (the GOP apparatus) and the charlatans (the political religious right) who espoused them just as a path to power.

Our ideals are in large part autobiographical. What we do with them -- how we pursue them -- is a matter of character, but the ideals themselves are rarely anything other than the baggage stamps of our journey through life. Give me Bob's upbringing and I'm probably him, and vice versa. It is difficult enough to build bridges between people with conflicting biographies without going beyond the fact and assigning character traits to them. That way lies the demonization of The Other that we rightly rail against when it happens to us.

We can afford to be magnanimous. On culture, we're winning and we're only going to win more. Then in our dotage it's we who will be the reactionaries, so let's teach our grandkids to be kind if only as a matter of self interest. ;) :p
 
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I don't believe he is talking about lewinsky, their are a few more accusations in Clinton's life.

Something like a billion dollars of private and public money has been spent investigating the Clintons by the VRWC. They are the most investigated people in the country's history. And after all that, there's nothing significant on them.

It's almost as if the unending investigation is itself the political strategy, and that where there's smoke there's an arsonist.
 
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Handy and alpha nailed it. Trump is always going to have his loyal loons. However, its up to The People Who Should Know Better to vote against him. Not by not voting, which will only up Trump's total % if less people are turning out. Either vote for Hillary or vote for Johnson or write somebody in, but if you have half a brain you HAVE to send him to a humiliating defeat. Otherwise the joe's of the world are just enabling the lunatic fringe with false equivalencies and lame defenses of Trump. The man is not worthy of anybody's defense. He's the worst nominee of any political party in the nation's history. Don't try to minimize it or you legitimize the man, and the GOP will never recover. If he gets crushed they recalibrate. If he comes close you'll be seeing Trump clones into the foreseeable future. Dems are doing their part by voting against the guy, but Republicans need to as well or too bad if you get tarred with the same brush.
 
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Reading all this critique of posters, what does it say about those of us who enjoyed Old Pio? He was a jerk.
 
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From Twitter:

“The media won’t tell you this, but Crooked Hillary is going around the country every single day, trying to get more votes than I do,” Trump said. “That’s how she’s going to rig it, folks.”
 
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Hahahahahahaha. Oh my god. That's made up, right?
 
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If you want a real tweet, though, there is this gem:

Watched Saturday Night Live hit job on me.Time to retire the boring and unfunny show. Alec Baldwin portrayal stinks. Media rigging election!
 
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Don't forget Hassert. He actually did diddle children.

Was he the one that did meth with the underage male hooker? It is so hard keeping up with the Party of Family Values and their scandals ;)
 
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Reading all this critique of posters, what does it say about those of us who enjoyed Old Pio? He was a jerk.

I mentioned him...I never got why people liked him other than for his old stories. He was one of the meanest people on this board and openly bragged that one of the highlights of his young life was meeting Senator Joe McCarthy. Difference between him and the rest though is he is old so like your racist grandpa he gets a pass ;)
 
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