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Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!

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French Rage said:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/orei...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Then he talked to an unnamed farmer who promised he could grow all of the food he wanted with these magic beans, so that guy should be Secretary of Agriculture.
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I couldn't help but click on the sidebar article detailing a Florida GOP congressional candidate going on a profanity laced tirade on a call with a reporter. I would recommend everyone do themselves a favor: make some popcorn, and listen to the entire call.
 
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Rover said:
Also Drudge and Bolton are on board with Trump I believe. Lowry can't stand him. Rush is a fan IIRC.
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Is that Rich Lowry of NR? I think everybody on the NR masthead hates Trump because he demonstrated that the people who voted R for the last 25 years were responding to racist dog whistles and didn't care about small government and other tenets of conservative ideology, and they were honestly surprised and hurt by that.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I'll never get that 17:10 back.
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Well, you did have the power there. ;)

I think that call demonstrated who both those guys are. Caputo (that's the same guy Trump's spokesperson mistakenly sent their memos to, right? Guy gets around.) is a career-builder who baited the hook and went looking for a reaction. Bongino is the high school wrestler who as an adult still views the world with the 16-year old BMOC's mentality. So, Caputo is Diet Olberman and Bongino is Diet Trump.
 
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Kepler said:
Overall, indeed, the candidates seem to have found new baselines with Hillary about 350 EV and +7.0 popular vote. The lasting effect of the conventions seems to be lifting her from a 75% chance of winning to an 85% chance.
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Typically polls stabilize post-convention. Going back 30+ years, the poll leader two weeks after the convention has never lost (sigh) the popular vote. It's not over, but the amount of ground that can be made up at this point is smaller than most realize.

I'm slower to accept the numbers in this case because I think there's a wider than usual discrepancy between that would choose Trump in a poll vs. people that would pull the lever for him in a private booth, but then again, maybe the same is true for Republicans and Hillary.

Handyman said:
Outside of talking about his ad...imigration never came up when Drumpf spoke here. He knows it is a political loser...
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I bet he was pretty quiet about Zika too.
 
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Seeing that many seem to think Hill will be Bill III, I'd be interested to hear what your opinions are on the net effect of Bill's 8 years on matters of economy and foreign policy.
 
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burd said:
Seeing that many seem to think Hill will be Bill III, I'd be interested to hear what your opinions are on the net effect of Bill's 8 years on matters of economy and foreign policy.
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She won't be Bill III. That ship sailed. She'll be Obama III. And that's just fine with me.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
She'll be Obama III.
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To a large extent, yeah, I think that's right. Obama made some headway on social issues but has been bottled up on economic reforms either because the plutocracy is too strong or it has infiltrated both parties and there is no will to defeat it. I can imagine Hillary making progress on women's issues -- particularly on day care, women's health care, and recasting reproductive rights as equal protection. Can she do anything to stop the flow of all national wealth to the 1%? Only if the country forces her to.
 
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Kepler said:
To a large extent, yeah, I think that's right. Obama made some headway on social issues but has been bottled up on economic reforms either because the plutocracy is too strong or it has infiltrated both parties and there is no will to defeat it. I can imagine Hillary making progress on women's issues -- particularly on day care, women's health care, and recasting reproductive rights as equal protection. Can she do anything to stop the flow of all national wealth to the 1%? Only if the country forces her to.
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Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street. That right there should tell you all you need to know. Sure, there will be some unsuccessful attempts to appear independent of the, half-hearted measures designed to try pulling the wool over the public's eyes. Other than that, there will be no serious attempts at economic reforms. She won't have the votes to change the tax code the way her ads depict.
 
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St. Clown said:
Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street. That right there should tell you all you need to know. Sure, there will be some unsuccessful attempts to appear independent of the, half-hearted measures designed to try pulling the wool over the public's eyes. Other than that, there will be no serious attempts at economic reforms. She won't have the votes to change the tax code the way her ads depict.
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One of the problems with the GOP's insanity is the Dems can get away with rolling over for Wall Street because we have nowhere else to turn. Imagine a genuine rogue Republican getting a hair up his bung and campaigning on every other piece of GOP garbage except ALSO to change the current tax brackets from 25/30/35 to 5/10/75. All of a sudden the Dems would have to up their game.

As it is, they can just take their bribes from Goldman and relax. In Trump's words, what have they got to lose?
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
She won't be Bill III. That ship sailed. She'll be Obama III. And that's just fine with me.
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I'm not trying to appear obtuse, Scooby, but how do you mean "that ship sailed?" I know that Bill was pres two decades ago and that we are on the other side of 2008 and the Iraq War, but what else are you referring to?
 
burd said:
I'm not trying to appear obtuse, Scooby, but how do you mean "that ship sailed?" I know that Bill was pres two decades ago and that we are on the other side of 2008 and the Iraq War, but what else are you referring to?
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It's a different planet entirely. Everything has changed.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
It's a different planet entirely. Everything has changed.
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What amount of time changes everything? 15 years? 12? Or were there certain changes between 2000 and today that changed the whole discussion?
 
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burd said:
What amount of time changes everything? 15 years? 12? Or were there certain changes between 2000 and today that changed the whole discussion?
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Money is much more mobile now than it was in 2001 when Clinton left office and the worldwide economy in 2016 really doesn't resemble 1992s at all. That's a huge difference between what Bill Clinton faced in the 90s and what a president will face on January 20th 2017.
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
Another disappearance by Rover's target of salivation. http://bigbluevision.org/2016/08/22...er-dies-mysteriously-yet-media-ignores-story/
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We need to put Trump – Pence in the White House so that we have competent president and also they can investigate all of this murders and put in jail everyone who is ordering all of this mysterious killings.
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Let me know when that site starts proofreading their stories. As it is, with word salad like the above, I can't even take them seriously as a righty source.
 
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