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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
That guy is every used car salesman you have ever met!
That guy is every used car salesman you have ever met!
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Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
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The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
The Trump campaign will spin this against Hillary in ... three, ... two, ... one.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/18/state-...-iran-was-contingent-on-us-prisoners-release/
And then Trump will perform Operation: FOOTBULLET on himself 30 seconds later.
The Trump campaign will spin this against Hillary in ... three, ... two, ... one.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/18/state-...-iran-was-contingent-on-us-prisoners-release/
And then Trump will perform Operation: FOOTBULLET on himself 30 seconds later.
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
Isn't Hillary a private citizen? While she may have more pull with Obama right now than I do, he is still the guy in charge and she is still one of the 315 million or so of us who isn't. And besides, this is yet another example of what would qualify as a false equivalency if this could be tied around Clinton's neck. This situation is a parsing of words. The money was allegedly to settle a decades old debt and the U.S. used it as leverage. Hell, if anything that's the way Trump behaves. Ranson is when they say give us $400 million you don't owe us and we'll give you some hostages back. Trump on the other hand tells lies. Things that can't be categorized in any other way. Like when this story first hit the ground how he had seen video of the actual transaction taking place. Never happened. Video did not exist. But to Trump it is never important if something he says is true or a lie. In fact he is one of those people who think that by lying he has some sort of power over you because he thinks then you don't really know for sure what's going on. Never mind he is too stupid to realize that most of the stuff he lies about is pretty easy to catch. He does it because he is incapable of behaving differently, and he does it because his supporters are rubes and most are dumber than a bag of rocks and tree bark and believe whatever lies he wants to make up.
Isn't Hillary a private citizen? While she may have more pull with Obama right now than I do, he is still the guy in charge and she is still one of the 315 million or so of us who isn't. And besides, this is yet another example of what would qualify as a false equivalency if this could be tied around Clinton's neck. This situation is a parsing of words. The money was allegedly to settle a decades old debt and the U.S. used it as leverage. Hell, if anything that's the way Trump behaves. Ranson is when they say give us $400 million you don't owe us and we'll give you some hostages back. Trump on the other hand tells lies. Things that can't be categorized in any other way. Like when this story first hit the ground how he had seen video of the actual transaction taking place. Never happened. Video did not exist. But to Trump it is never important if something he says is true or a lie. In fact he is one of those people who think that by lying he has some sort of power over you because he thinks then you don't really know for sure what's going on. Never mind he is too stupid to realize that most of the stuff he lies about is pretty easy to catch. He does it because he is incapable of behaving differently, and he does it because his supporters are rubes and most are dumber than a bag of rocks and tree bark and believe whatever lies he wants to make up.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
That's a good way to get Trump elected. Good job, Obama.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Hillary is not a private citizen. IMO, you may disagree, but I think you lose that status when you announce your candidacy for public office. However, she wasn't in a public position of power when the Iran deal was finalized, so this shouldn't be a rope around her neck, but Trumpsters will spin it that way.
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
Private citizen in that she is not in a governmental position with settlement authority or an official position where advising is a requirement of the job, meaning she is no different than you or I in this matter.
Private citizen in that she is not in a governmental position with settlement authority or an official position where advising is a requirement of the job, meaning she is no different than you or I in this matter.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
The hosts of Fox and Friends said Hillary wearing glasses is a sign of brain damage.
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The hosts of Fox and Friends said Hillary wearing glasses is a sign of brain damage.
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walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
Deny what - that the money paid out was already owed to them?
I've heard she has Parkinson's, epilepsy, has been falling down repeatedly, asked to be allowed to sit for the debates...
Deny what - that the money paid out was already owed to them?
I've heard she has Parkinson's, epilepsy, has been falling down repeatedly, asked to be allowed to sit for the debates...
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
It's like a battle of greater gaffes.
Maybe they can make it into a reality TV show:
"So you think you can eff-up a campaign"
or
"Are you smarter than a Presidential candidate and their campaign"
It's like a battle of greater gaffes.
Maybe they can make it into a reality TV show:
"So you think you can eff-up a campaign"
or
"Are you smarter than a Presidential candidate and their campaign"
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
That being said, this has become known as a blatant lie, but as we have seen, no one is touching the Clinton campaign as far as that goes. Hence, the crap-tossing: Maybe THIS will stick. No? How about THIS? Dang.
They are tinfoil hat issues (as to derailing the campaign), and this is ME saying this. They are basically throwing a bunch of crap on the wall, hoping something will stick.
That being said, this has become known as a blatant lie, but as we have seen, no one is touching the Clinton campaign as far as that goes. Hence, the crap-tossing: Maybe THIS will stick. No? How about THIS? Dang.
unofan
Well-known member
Holy false equivalence, Batman.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
The problem with Trump trying to capitalize on a story revolving around international diplomacy is that he knows nothing about the subject. Any time he brings it up he gets exposed. I'm not sure he even knows the difference between Iran and Iraq frankly.
However, for the knucks' and nervous nellies out there, I fail to see how delaying a payment we already owe a nation is ransom? Its more like withholding your rent until the landlord fixes the furnace.
The problem with Trump trying to capitalize on a story revolving around international diplomacy is that he knows nothing about the subject. Any time he brings it up he gets exposed. I'm not sure he even knows the difference between Iran and Iraq frankly.
However, for the knucks' and nervous nellies out there, I fail to see how delaying a payment we already owe a nation is ransom? Its more like withholding your rent until the landlord fixes the furnace.
SonofSouthie
Misanthrope
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...isease/ar-BBvNeOQ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
Trump's campaign is now doing medical diagnostics.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...isease/ar-BBvNeOQ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
I think the bigger news this morning is Trump's apology tour:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-apologizes-words-campaign-trail-lie/story?id=41496030
I think the bigger news this morning is Trump's apology tour:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-apologizes-words-campaign-trail-lie/story?id=41496030
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XVI: KICK THE BABY!
Except Obama is the one who "lied" not Clinton. She isnt even mentioned in the story. People can twist it as much as they want (like Sicatoka is trying to do) but nothing about it has anything to do with the Clinton Campaign. The deal was struck before she was SOS and all of these gaffes took place well after she left. The true blatant lie is that it has anything to do with her.
Except Obama is the one who "lied" not Clinton. She isnt even mentioned in the story. People can twist it as much as they want (like Sicatoka is trying to do) but nothing about it has anything to do with the Clinton Campaign. The deal was struck before she was SOS and all of these gaffes took place well after she left. The true blatant lie is that it has anything to do with her.
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