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Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

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Rover said:
I've read in debate prep Hillary is already prepared to do the fact checking for him. Frankly this is nothing new. Candy Crowley stood out because she was the one moderator in the history of debates to correct a candidate on the spot when he was saying something that wasn't true, and in Mittens case I'm not sure if he was outright lying or merely truly thought Obama hadn't called the Benghazi attack terrorism the next day. That's why controlling the post debate spin is so important (again see Gore, Al).
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I don't think post debate spin would've helped Gore. He made an *** out of himself. I was sighing as much as he was but I was doing it in the privacy of my own home not in front of millions of people.
 
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Handyman said:
In other news it looks like Christie may get impeached over the Bridge fiasco...but hey he is perfect for Drumpf's transition team.
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I thought the only way you could get in trouble over a bridge in NY is is you tried to sell it to a guy. :D
 
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Kepler said:
That just says he does business in Russia, which everybody knew. The other link made it sound like the Kremlin was cutting him checks with "FOR TREASON" written in the Memo field.
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Agree. That other link felt like Alex Jones but with left-handed threads.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I don't think post debate spin would've helped Gore. He made an *** out of himself. I was sighing as much as he was but I was doing it in the privacy of my own home not in front of millions of people.
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True, but he sat on his arse while the Bush team ran with that as being the most important thing that came out of the debate. IIRC initially people felt Gore won the debate, but by the end of the week he looked like he lost. Goopers tried the same thing in the Biden-Ryan post debate spin as well, hoping to sell the narrative that Biden was too hard on the little weasel since he got smoked on the issues. Obviously the Obama team was having none of it.
 
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Rover said:
True, but he sat on his arse while the Bush team ran with that as being the most important thing that came out of the debate. IIRC initially people felt Gore won the debate, but by the end of the week he looked like he lost. Goopers tried the same thing in the Biden-Ryan post debate spin as well, hoping to sell the narrative that Biden was too hard on the little weasel since he got smoked on the issues. Obviously the Obama team was having none of it.
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Well, I'm sure they will handle that. Saw Donna Brazille's take on the race recently and she is just fantastic. There can be no better advocate for Hillary to have as DNC chair now that the troll is gone. The contract with Priebus is staggering.
 
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Eric Trump on Friday defended his father's self-made real estate mogul narrative, saying the Republican presidential nominee was the epitome of the American dream for having "gone from just about nothing" to become a successful real estate mogul in New York.
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You cannot be more out of touch with what it means to be poor or middle class in this country right now then that. Eric Trump is a silver spoon idiot.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/politics/eric-trump-donald-trump-american-dream/index.html
 
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The Sicatoka said:
I thought the only way you could get in trouble over a bridge in NY is is you tried to sell it to a guy. :D
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The GW going in from Fort Lee is a mess anyway. If I had to use that bridge and learned that pols were willfully causing more congestion, I'd be mucho ****ed.
 
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St. Clown said:
You mean Clinton can't walk up to Trump while he's speaking, and stare intently, creepily, at him the whole time until he makes a truly deft performance move and acknowledges the creepiness of it all with a quick, comic look and line?

That was the high-point of Bush's intellectual prowess as POTUS, and he hadn't even taken office yet.
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RE: That event in that Bush/Gore debate.

The Bush campaign knew Gore loved that tactic. They had seen him do it in other debates. Gore is a tall human and he liked to loom over the other speaker to try to throw them off. The Bush debate prep folks had him ready for it, and thus came one of the more memorable visuals from Presidential debate history.
 
burd said:
The GW going in from Fort Lee is a mess anyway. If I had to use that bridge and learned that pols were willfully causing more congestion, I'd be mucho ****ed.
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But how could you tell unless it was backed up to Englewood?
 
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burd said:
The GW going in from Fort Lee is a mess anyway. If I had to use that bridge and learned that pols were willfully causing more congestion, I'd be mucho ****ed.
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Don't like traffic and congestion? Don't live where there's traffic and congestion.
 
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joecct said:
But how could you tell unless it was backed up to Englewood?
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Doesn't matter. All I'd have to do is hear pols were making an already bad situation worse through political gamesmanship. I wouldn't care which party was doing it. And I know people already believe pols mess up their lives in pursuit of their own ambitions, but this would be so direct and so trite, I'd be pizzed.
 
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burd said:
The GW going in from Fort Lee is a mess anyway. If I had to use that bridge and learned that pols were willfully causing more congestion, I'd be mucho ****ed.
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I wouldn't be shocked if gas companies are lobbying for congestion because of the fuel used from idling vehicles, or lobbied by industrial outlets to force large amounts of traffic elsewhere. Even I'm very selective of what expressways and parkways to use in NYC, and I do road trips on my vacations.
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
I wouldn't be shocked if gas companies are lobbying for congestion because of the fuel used from idling vehicles, or lobbied by industrial outlets to force large amounts of traffic elsewhere. Even I'm very selective of what expressways and parkways to use in NYC, and I do road trips on my vacations.
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Bentley, BMW, Fiat, Ford, GM, Hyundai, Honda, Jaguar, Kia, Land Rover, Mazda, Toyota, VW, and other European branded cars all are now including Auto Stop/Start technology that stops the engine when it detects it's idling/stopped while the gear is in drive. Release the brake, and the engine starts right back up.

I have it in my Malibu, and I love it. Easily stretches my fuel economy when in city stop-and-go traffic.


And congestion isn't some vast conspiracy from Big Oil, it's the result of zero infrastructure/transportation money being spent. But hey, let's keep pi**ing money away on the F35.
 
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St. Clown said:
You mean Clinton can't walk up to Trump while he's speaking, and stare intently, creepily, at him the whole time until he makes a truly deft performance move and acknowledges the creepiness of it all with a quick, comic look and line?

That was the high-point of Bush's intellectual prowess as POTUS, and he hadn't even taken office yet.
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When I was reading that I thought you were going to have him kiss her and then together they destroy the world! :D
 
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aparch said:
Bentley, BMW, Fiat, Ford, GM, Hyundai, Honda, Jaguar, Kia, Land Rover, Mazda, Toyota, VW, and other European branded cars all are now including Auto Stop/Start technology that stops the engine when it detects it's idling/stopped while the gear is in drive. Release the brake, and the engine starts right back up.

I have it in my Malibu, and I love it. Easily stretches my fuel economy when in city stop-and-go traffic.
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I've driven a Jaguar with it. I hated it. I shut it off. It unnerved me; when I'm stopped at a light I want to know the engine is running, not wonder if it's going to start when I need it to. (PS - Jaguar has release brake or turn the wheel to start.)

And I have my doubts about wanting the engine off when it's -5 F (or -25 F or +105 F).
 
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