Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

[Kepler]

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This is odd.

Ted Cruz is, of course, a cold-blooded humorless lizard, an experimental virus grown in a vat of slime at Heritage Foundation and trained as a hatchling with electric shocks to respond to any question only with garbled misunderstandings of Friedrich Hayek or fundamentalist Christian bumper sticker slogans. He is a toad and a Tartuffe and a personification of anal sack cancer; a mincing, oleaginous clot of rancid mayonnaise in the corner of a gym locker, the cheesy sebaceous effluvia from a cyst on the vaginal lips of Phyllis Schlafly's moldering corpse, and yet...

... and yet I have never heard of him doing a stupid thing until just now.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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OMG what an idiot.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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It's admittedly a very fine line, but Romney defined the group but never tagged a name on them. He didn't call them "_______".

Mrs. Clinton is stuck with the "deplorable" meme forever by her own hand. It probably was a calculated move. I wouldn't have agreed with it.

 

[Kepler]

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OMG what an idiot.

He has his discriminator against the entire 2020 field. If Trump loses he skips to that nomination. He scoped the long game before anyone else and patiently stuck to the arc through 15 bitter months and now, right before The Pay Off, he wusses out?

What is he thinking?

 

[The Sicatoka]

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What is he thinking?

That's easy: Scalia's chair.

Next question.


C'mon, the epic "dealmaker"? What else could it be. Trump needs the Christian fundamentalist that may (massive assumption there) begrudgingly give their support to Trump. Cruz realizes his worst outcome out of this is a robe, because his national political career is over either way.

 

[Kepler]

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That's easy: Scalia's chair.

Next question.

You are one dark dude.

"When you look into the abyss, it’s not supposed to wave back."
— Terry Pratchett

 

[unofan]

That's easy: Scalia's chair.

Next question.


C'mon, the epic "dealmaker"? What else could it be. Trump needs the Christian fundamentalist that may (massive assumption there) begrudgingly give their support to Trump. Cruz realizes his worst outcome out of this is a robe, because his national political career is over either way.

I don't think there's any way Cruz gets confirmed by the Senate no matter who controls it. He's hated by probably 85 of the other 99 senators. They wouldn't even need to filibuster. I think he'd lose the up-down vote without blinking.

 

[Kepler]

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I don't think there's any way Cruz gets confirmed by the Senate no matter who controls it. He's hated by probably 85 of the other 99 senators.

No. There is no way there are 14 Senators who don't hate him.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Mr. Trump also included a close Cruz ally, Senator Mike Lee of Utah, on a list of prospective Supreme Court nominees that he released on Friday.

One person briefed on Mr. Cruz’s plans said that Mr. Trump’s inclusion of Mr. Lee was central to his decision.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/u...ald-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

This election just got a billion times more important for me. Mike Lee in the Senate is bad enough for me and I'm in Minnesota. On the Supreme Court? I'm outta here.

 

[Handyman]

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Oops. Sorry.

Eh most people ignore me anyways

 

[The Sicatoka]

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I don't think there's any way Cruz gets confirmed by the Senate no matter who controls it. He's hated by probably 85 of the other 99 senators. They wouldn't even need to filibuster. I think he'd lose the up-down vote without blinking.

That doesn't matter.

Trump knows that.
Cruz? Too stupid to know that.
So, Trump makes deal; Trump nominates Cruz; Senate sounds the fail horn; Trump makes another pick.

Trump loses nothing in that scenario.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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You are one dark dude.

Was that racist?

 

[Handyman]

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Yeah, she did. And it was true. Did you see what the Trump Campaign in Ohio said?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/22/trump-ohio-campaign-chair-no-racism-before-obama

Or the elected official in North Carolina?

http://www.attn.com/stories/11566/congressman-robert-pittenger-says-black-people-jealous

It's time these people got called out for what they are. If Mrs. Clinton is the only one with balls to do it, so be it.

I am sure he was "being sarcastic" just like his Party Leader was when he says stuff like that. GOPers should be ashamed of this crap as should all conservatives.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

He has his discriminator against the entire 2020 field. If Trump loses he skips to that nomination. He scoped the long game before anyone else and patiently stuck to the arc through 15 bitter months and now, right before The Pay Off, he wusses out?

What is he thinking?

He is thinking he got offered a better deal.

 

[Handyman]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/u...ald-trump.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

This election just got a billion times more important for me. Mike Lee in the Senate is bad enough for me and I'm in Minnesota. On the Supreme Court? I'm outta here.

The Supreme Court is the most important part of this election. Liberals need to realize this fast.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Uh-oh ... this could really shake things up.

 

[unofan]

That doesn't matter.

Trump knows that.
Cruz? Too stupid to know that.
So, Trump makes deal; Trump nominates Cruz; Senate sounds the fail horn; Trump makes another pick.

Trump loses nothing in that scenario.

Cruz is many things, pretty much all of which are despicable, but he's not stupid.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Cruz is many things, pretty much all of which are despicable, but he's not stupid.

Allow me to clarify: Stupid arrogant (as in blind to reality in front of him), not stupid intelligence-wise.

If Alan Dershowitz admits Cruz was a smart student, Ted's undeniably not stupid intelligence-wise.

 

[St. Clown]

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From Sicatoka in the last thread.




To which I say, if he had bothered to read her entire statement, which I posted earlier in that thread, he would know that she went out of her way to separate the deplorables from the rest of the "great unwashed masses".

Ol' Sica's learned a lot about obfuscation from the Trump campaign.

Nuance doesn't work in political campaigns. It's far too easy to shorten the statement for the purpose of creating sound bites. For as long as she's been involved in politics, she sure is a horrible campaigner - especially when this election should've been a mortal lock, save for her inability to close the deal. Now it's just likely, but a great many are questioning that. She could actually end up being the first candidate to lead after the conventions and actually lose in the general election. She's that bad at campaigning.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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It's far too easy to shorten the statement for the purpose of creating sound bites.

The rest of her speech could've been the Emancipation Proclamation, or King's "I Have a Dream", or the Sermon on the Mount, or all three rolled together; but, only that sound bite will live on in today's world.