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Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

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Handyman said:
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I wont lie, methinks something is about to come out about him and he is trying to control the cycle before it happens.
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I think you're giving his campaign too much credit. Especially after you witnessed it first hand.

I feel that Trump has never had someone in his ear to tell him "No," or "Stop," this often until this campaign, and he definitely doesn't like being told no when he thinks he's right. He's surrounded himself with "Yes Men" throughout his ventures. He's run his campaign the same way he brazenly operates his businesses.


He's... the perfect role model for Millennials: Handed everything, never told no, doesn't know any better, and unwilling to learn.



(Speaking of Millennials, I really hate that 1982 birth years are lumped in. I feel and act as if I caught the tail end of Generation X.)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XIX: Escape from the Planet of Debates

McPaper awakes from slumber, rubs eyes, grunts.

In the 34-year history of USA TODAY, the Editorial Board has never taken sides in the presidential race. Instead, we’ve expressed opinions about the major issues and haven’t presumed to tell our readers, who have a variety of priorities and values, which choice is best for them. Because every presidential race is different, we revisit our no-endorsement policy every four years. We’ve never seen reason to alter our approach. Until now.

This year, the choice isn’t between two capable major party nominees who happen to have significant ideological differences. This year, one of the candidates — Republican nominee Donald Trump — is, by unanimous consensus of the Editorial Board, unfit for the presidency.
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I think you're giving his campaign too much credit. Especially after you witnessed it first hand.

I feel that Trump has never had someone in his ear to tell him "No," or "Stop," this often until this campaign, and he definitely doesn't like being told no when he thinks he's right. He's surrounded himself with "Yes Men" throughout his ventures. He's run his campaign the same way he brazenly operates his businesses.


He's... the perfect role model for Millennials: Handed everything, never told no, doesn't know any better, and unwilling to learn.



(Speaking of Millennials, I really hate that 1982 birth years are lumped in. I feel and act as if I caught the tail end of Generation X.)
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Well I saw him when Conway had just been hired so it was a different campaign then. Her tactic is to change the story when something bad happens to deflect from Donald these days.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
When I said, "Wanna be a slut? Be a slut ..." I was speaking to Bill and Donald. Notice I listed those two first before.
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But you brought up her sexual history as if it had any bearing on Trump's gross statements. It would be like us arguing about JFK's responsibility for Chappaquiddick and me saying, "Mary Jo Kopechne was sleeping around -- she seems nice :rolleyes: ." What would that have to do with anything?

Going off on tangents about women's promiscuity is the oldest sexist play in the book. I'm not saying you were playing that card deliberately; I'm saying it's such a common practice in our culture that people go to it unconsciously as if it was valid. But it isn't -- it's just sexist garbage. It would be like talking about Wounded Knee and someone saying, "well, I heard some of them Injuns were hopped up on liquor; you know how they get."

Casual bigotry is still bigotry, even though it's not intentional. In fact that makes it worse because it's the way it seeps in to even good people's heads.
 
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aparch said:
He's... the perfect role model for Millennials: Handed everything, never told no, doesn't know any better, and unwilling to learn
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Uhh, what? "Handed everything"? Like the worst economy since the great depression, the longest wars in US history, the housing collapse, crippling student loan debt, being the first generation to get things worst off than their parents' generation, all those great things?
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Wanna be a slut? Be a slut; but, I do have a problem with people that can't stay faithful....
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Funny, I've never seen you call out Thomas Jefferson unless I missed it.:p

But truthfully Sicatoka does represent mainstream conservative thought on this issue. Proper thing to do would have been for Trump to let it go. Now his not-supporters-but-defenders like Sic are going all in on the slut shaming. Look, I don't care if she banged a guy I've never heard of while being engaged to a ballplayer I vaguely remember from a long time ago. Donald Trump has a continuing and ongoing problem with women up to and including trading in his wives for younger models. The idea that he's going to take down Bill and Hillary on this issue is hilarious. Its like if we assigned Flaggy to take down a conspiracy theorist. :eek: :D
 
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The Sicatoka said:
I woke up this morning and realized it's mere hours to October and Julian Assange hasn't been the lead story on the morning radio news in a couple weeks.

Wait for it. Waaaaaait for it.
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Last time he was he was quoting Russian Conspiracy Theories that went nowhere...his credit is dying by the day :D
 
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William Blake said:
Uhh, what? "Handed everything"? Like the worst economy since the great depression, the longest wars in US history, the housing collapse, crippling student loan debt, being the first generation to get things worst off than their parents' generation, all those great things?
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Troll fail...
 
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William Blake said:
Uhh, what? "Handed everything"? Like the worst economy since the great depression, the longest wars in US history, the housing collapse, crippling student loan debt, being the first generation to get things worst off than their parents' generation, all those great things?
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The whole idea of generations -- Millenials, Gen X, Boomers -- is bunk. But as a very old Gen X'er I would like to say I've never experienced Millenials as anything other than normal people. Everyone is an a-hole in their teens and 20s, and Millenials are no worse than everyone else.

Plus, as you point out, they have been handed a really rough deal. If there is any truth in the time-honored apothegm that suffering builds character (spoiler: there isn't), the Millenials will be the next Greatest Generation, fixing all the problems the Boomers bequeathed us from Reaganomics to Neocon Wars to Climate Change.
 
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William Blake said:
I don't follow, are you just saying the poster I replied to was trolling and he hooked me?
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No, he thinks you're a troll. Frankly, I don't. That's all pretty accurate as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully the next President can do something to fix some of it.
 
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Supposedly Trump is adding Christie to his debate prep team.

Trump will win with the best "deer in headlights" ever.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Pure Operation: FOOTBULLET

The points he scored Monday night were economic (jobs, trade, debt). But his ego won't allow him to let this go.
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Yup. I was honestly worried with the "she's been there for 30 years" theme. That will resonate with a lot of people. And "they took our jerbs!" is an evergreen winner even if Trump's solutions are even worse for the economy.

Thing is, as Rover mentioned a while back, the first debate was his wheelhouse. If he couldn't win with his ace on the mound, how's he going to do on foreign policy or civil rights and civil liberties when he's got a AAA scrub out there?

He could go for the jugular on fiscal and monetary policy -- the middle class is even more worried about the debt and quantitative easing than his core supporters. He has room to grow there if he says "I will put a hard cap on all discretionary spending that gets progressively higher each year until by my 4th year the budget is balanced. I will then increase the cap to begin to pay off the national debt. While the debt is too large to have even appreciably dent it by the end of my second term, I will aim to have reduced it by at least 5%. The savings on debt service will then be applied directly to further debt reduction, and the virtuous cycle will eventually clear our entire debt within 20 years."
 
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