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Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
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Sadly, I will have moved out of CA before the primary - and after FL's, so I won't have the pleasure of voting against Rover.
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You can always vote for Trump in November!
Sadly, I will have moved out of CA before the primary - and after FL's, so I won't have the pleasure of voting against Rover.
You can always vote for Trump in November!
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A thought - tD is in trouble because of Trump U. HRC is in trouble because of the email fiasco (more on that here). It would be interesting if both candidates are indicted between the end of the conventions and election day.
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Only one interesting race in MD today. Who wins the Democratic Senate primary? Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Montgomery Cty) vs. Rep. Donna Edwards (Prince Georges Cty). I hope it's CvH.
A thought - tD is in trouble because of Trump U. HRC is in trouble because of the email fiasco (more on that here). It would be interesting if both candidates are indicted between the end of the conventions and election day.
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Only one interesting race in MD today. Who wins the Democratic Senate primary? Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Montgomery Cty) vs. Rep. Donna Edwards (Prince Georges Cty). I hope it's CvH.
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bronconick
Yep, still here
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The tiniest sized state is projected for the man with the tiny hands
The tiniest sized state is projected for the man with the tiny hands
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Aren't all links posted on here written by some random dude?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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I appreciate joe posting the dicknixon tweets. For one thing, I do not do your newfangled kid Twitter thing, since my belt onion interferes with the reception. For another, that guy's funnier than sh-t.
Don't be the thread police.
I appreciate joe posting the dicknixon tweets. For one thing, I do not do your newfangled kid Twitter thing, since my belt onion interferes with the reception. For another, that guy's funnier than sh-t.
Don't be the thread police.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Or all posts typed by a random dude(tte).
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
I'm a lot of things but I'm not random.
I'm a lot of things but I'm not random.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
Sanders conceded last night in all but name. How he handled it is instructive: this was never about him, it was and is about the issues he wants addressed. The Democratic party is obviously the only one of the major parties in which anybody has any interest in actually addressing them, so that's where he went to get a hearing.
His statement with my annotations and formatting:
The test of whether he was effective is whether the US makes progress towards these goals both in the short term, in a Clinton presidency, and long term, in the foundation and growth of a grassroots movement devoted to these policies.
We shall see.
Sanders conceded last night in all but name. How he handled it is instructive: this was never about him, it was and is about the issues he wants addressed. The Democratic party is obviously the only one of the major parties in which anybody has any interest in actually addressing them, so that's where he went to get a hearing.
His statement with my annotations and formatting:
The test of whether he was effective is whether the US makes progress towards these goals both in the short term, in a Clinton presidency, and long term, in the foundation and growth of a grassroots movement devoted to these policies.
We shall see.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
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*sigh* This $15/hr minimum wage issue is starting to get on my nerves. I've ordered at Sonic twice in the last week, one time they completely screwed up my order, the other they argued with me that they brought the correct items when the receipt he was holding plainly showed he was in the wrong. These people deserve more money? I'd swear I'd start voting Republican thanks to these feelings and my recent home ownership...
But then I'm reminded that the Republican Party is filled with kid diddlers and I cannot support that party. So I solidly swing back to Democrat.
*sigh* This $15/hr minimum wage issue is starting to get on my nerves. I've ordered at Sonic twice in the last week, one time they completely screwed up my order, the other they argued with me that they brought the correct items when the receipt he was holding plainly showed he was in the wrong. These people deserve more money? I'd swear I'd start voting Republican thanks to these feelings and my recent home ownership...
But then I'm reminded that the Republican Party is filled with kid diddlers and I cannot support that party. So I solidly swing back to Democrat.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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Former McDonald's CEO Ed Rensi thinks you're going to see a lot fewer employees to make those mistakes once the $15/hr minimum wage comes into effect. And it's not like this trend will end with McD's.
Former McDonald's CEO Ed Rensi thinks you're going to see a lot fewer employees to make those mistakes once the $15/hr minimum wage comes into effect. And it's not like this trend will end with McD's.
Spartanforlife4
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It's not like they wouldn't go with the kiosks eventually anyway...
It's not like they wouldn't go with the kiosks eventually anyway...
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Funny.
Regarding these points from Sanders:
1 a $15 an hour minimum wage, - Sure. I think Clinton is @ $12 nationally but states are free to add the other $3 themselves. Seems like they're not far apart
2 an end to our disastrous trade policies, - I like this one. No more can "getting cheaper Chinese crap at Wal-Mart" be a reason to kiss off American jobs.
3 a Medicare-for-all health care system, - Sorry Bernie, until you can figure out how to pay for it its going nowhere. Universal coverage is the immediate goal.
4 breaking up Wall Street financial institutions, - Too vague. Sanders needs to say how he wants to do this (by assets? customers? product lines?)
5 ending fracking in our country, - The most ridiculous of his requests. Who gives an F if we frack Texas? No deal.
6 making public colleges and universities tuition free and - I like it. Subject to some tweaking but the idea is good.
7 passing a carbon tax so we can effectively address the planetary crisis of climate change.” - Other ways to address planetary change without running to a tax. I wouldn't commit to this if I were advising the Hillary campaign
Kinda surprised he didn't hit on voting rights or committing to overturning Citizens United.
Funny.
Regarding these points from Sanders:
1 a $15 an hour minimum wage, - Sure. I think Clinton is @ $12 nationally but states are free to add the other $3 themselves. Seems like they're not far apart
2 an end to our disastrous trade policies, - I like this one. No more can "getting cheaper Chinese crap at Wal-Mart" be a reason to kiss off American jobs.
3 a Medicare-for-all health care system, - Sorry Bernie, until you can figure out how to pay for it its going nowhere. Universal coverage is the immediate goal.
4 breaking up Wall Street financial institutions, - Too vague. Sanders needs to say how he wants to do this (by assets? customers? product lines?)
5 ending fracking in our country, - The most ridiculous of his requests. Who gives an F if we frack Texas? No deal.
6 making public colleges and universities tuition free and - I like it. Subject to some tweaking but the idea is good.
7 passing a carbon tax so we can effectively address the planetary crisis of climate change.” - Other ways to address planetary change without running to a tax. I wouldn't commit to this if I were advising the Hillary campaign
Kinda surprised he didn't hit on voting rights or committing to overturning Citizens United.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
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That all depends. They're not going to spend thousands of dollars up front until the potential short-term savings matches that cost. There's also a downside to these kiosks, and it's that for all their faults, people still like to deal with human employees in most industries. Businesses won't make this change until they see it as a must, and increasing the price of labor to the point of making their variable costs unprofitable is one of those things.
That all depends. They're not going to spend thousands of dollars up front until the potential short-term savings matches that cost. There's also a downside to these kiosks, and it's that for all their faults, people still like to deal with human employees in most industries. Businesses won't make this change until they see it as a must, and increasing the price of labor to the point of making their variable costs unprofitable is one of those things.
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