Would she be a hypocrite for supporting Hillary, given that HRC appears to be bought and paid for by Wall Street?
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Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
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Would she be a hypocrite for supporting Hillary, given that HRC appears to be bought and paid for by Wall Street?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
I think it would be hypocritical to support Hillary over Bernie.
It would not in any way be hypocritical to support Hillary over any Republican I know of.
Bernie's a +10, Hillary a 0, but the GOP is a -10.
I think it would be hypocritical to support Hillary over Bernie.
It would not in any way be hypocritical to support Hillary over any Republican I know of.
Bernie's a +10, Hillary a 0, but the GOP is a -10.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
Good article:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...6/04/there_is_no_bernie_sanders_movement.html
Regarding Warren and Sanders one has to wonder how Lizzy feels when Sanders claims nothing has been done in the wake of the Great Recession, when Warren inspired legislation is now the law of the land (the CFPB). Kinda dismisses everything the woman worked for over the years, no?
I think Sanders would like to be thought of the same way as Elizabeth Warren. I also think that's wishful thinking out of the old coot.
Good article:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...6/04/there_is_no_bernie_sanders_movement.html
Regarding Warren and Sanders one has to wonder how Lizzy feels when Sanders claims nothing has been done in the wake of the Great Recession, when Warren inspired legislation is now the law of the land (the CFPB). Kinda dismisses everything the woman worked for over the years, no?
I think Sanders would like to be thought of the same way as Elizabeth Warren. I also think that's wishful thinking out of the old coot.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
And if Warren were running you'd be saying the same crap about her.
The problem with being so willfully biased is nobody listens to you. All the Bernie people on this Forum have agreed that while we prefer Bernie we will vote for Hillary. You have made no such statement in the reverse. You've just trolled with three or four endlessly repeated statements, none of which seem to make any sense to anybody other than you.
I think Sanders would like to be thought of the same way as Elizabeth Warren. I also think that's wishful thinking out of the old coot.
And if Warren were running you'd be saying the same crap about her.
The problem with being so willfully biased is nobody listens to you. All the Bernie people on this Forum have agreed that while we prefer Bernie we will vote for Hillary. You have made no such statement in the reverse. You've just trolled with three or four endlessly repeated statements, none of which seem to make any sense to anybody other than you.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
a joke? as tonto?
I think Sanders would like to be thought of the same way as Elizabeth Warren. I also think that's wishful thinking out of the old coot.
a joke? as tonto?
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Kep, buddy, who's winning the primary thus far, Bernie or Hillary? Just curious if one glimmer of reality is still getting through to you....
Unlike yourself, who thought Warren would lose to Scottie Brown, formerly the stupidest thing you said out here until you joined the Sanders cult, I saw potential in the woman from the start of that race and was thrilled to vote for her as my Senator and really the heir to the legacy of Ted Kennedy. Warren-Kennedy is a good analogy. Practical liberalism focused on moving the ball down the field even if not in the majority.
BTW, your bias regarding Sanders is as strong or stronger than mine for Hillary. Your holier than thou complex isn't flying. Now why don't you make a few more Nazi references like you did last week?
And if Warren were running you'd be saying the same crap about her.
The problem with being so willfully biased is nobody listens to you. All the Bernie people on this Forum have agreed that while we prefer Bernie we will vote for Hillary. You have made no such statement in the reverse. You've just trolled with three or four endlessly repeated statements, none of which seem to make any sense to anybody other than you.
Kep, buddy, who's winning the primary thus far, Bernie or Hillary? Just curious if one glimmer of reality is still getting through to you....
Unlike yourself, who thought Warren would lose to Scottie Brown, formerly the stupidest thing you said out here until you joined the Sanders cult, I saw potential in the woman from the start of that race and was thrilled to vote for her as my Senator and really the heir to the legacy of Ted Kennedy. Warren-Kennedy is a good analogy. Practical liberalism focused on moving the ball down the field even if not in the majority.
BTW, your bias regarding Sanders is as strong or stronger than mine for Hillary. Your holier than thou complex isn't flying. Now why don't you make a few more Nazi references like you did last week?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
I'll give you this much. You reflect your candidate perfectly.
By June you'll have your wish and we'll be on the same side. Until then I'm going to accept the advice other posters have given me: you're not sincerely engaging, you're just electioneering. Off to Cloud 8 for a bit.
I'll give you this much. You reflect your candidate perfectly.
By June you'll have your wish and we'll be on the same side. Until then I'm going to accept the advice other posters have given me: you're not sincerely engaging, you're just electioneering. Off to Cloud 8 for a bit.
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mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
bullworth is on. wish he was running
bullworth is on. wish he was running
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Whats that in the bread has gone to my head....
The Unity Party hereby nominates
For President: John Kasich of Ohio
For Vice President: Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.
In a unique power sharing move, should the Unity Party win in 2016, Gov. Kasich and Sen. Warren agree to switch places for the 2020 election.
Down the ballot candiates are invited to join.
We now join your regularly scheduled program...
Whats that in the bread has gone to my head....
The Unity Party hereby nominates
For President: John Kasich of Ohio
For Vice President: Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.
In a unique power sharing move, should the Unity Party win in 2016, Gov. Kasich and Sen. Warren agree to switch places for the 2020 election.
Down the ballot candiates are invited to join.
We now join your regularly scheduled program...
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
Is that a Eucharist thing or a hippie thing? I like it.
Gary Johnson and Warren, maybe. Not Kasich. He's only reasonable as compared with the turnip and the teabag.
Is that a Eucharist thing or a hippie thing? I like it.
Gary Johnson and Warren, maybe. Not Kasich. He's only reasonable as compared with the turnip and the teabag.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
You never want your VP to overshadow the top of the ticket!
I do wonder what the future holds for Kasich. If a Trump or Cruz loses, logic would dictate the party would turn its lonely eyes to him next time. Problem is he's already in his 60's I think (64 maybe?). It wouldn't be unprecedented for a 68 year old to win (Final 4 this year are 70-68-74 and 45? maybe as of today) but non-insane conservatives are going to have to make a BIG comeback between now and then.
You never want your VP to overshadow the top of the ticket!
I do wonder what the future holds for Kasich. If a Trump or Cruz loses, logic would dictate the party would turn its lonely eyes to him next time. Problem is he's already in his 60's I think (64 maybe?). It wouldn't be unprecedented for a 68 year old to win (Final 4 this year are 70-68-74 and 45? maybe as of today) but non-insane conservatives are going to have to make a BIG comeback between now and then.
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As do you Kep. See, we CAN agree on something.
As do you Kep. See, we CAN agree on something.
#1 - From "Always hoped that I'd be an Apostle" from JC Superstar
#2 - Find me somebody to love.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Looking at the video, Freddy could have played Frank N. Furter without much time in costume and makeup.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
Paul Ryan is their guy in 2020 if Hillary feels particularly vulnerable, or 2024 otherwise. Rhetoric aside, anyone on the right looking at this with their head instead of their heart can see where this thing is heading. They'll get their clocks cleaned this year, then realize that going back to moderate and electable is a better long-term strategy than being the bat**** insane party.
That's why Ryan's big announcement came last week. He waited just long enough to get some positive buzz about potentially being the guy, but not long enough to be left with any of the stench of the upcoming Republican **** show.
Paul Ryan is their guy in 2020 if Hillary feels particularly vulnerable, or 2024 otherwise. Rhetoric aside, anyone on the right looking at this with their head instead of their heart can see where this thing is heading. They'll get their clocks cleaned this year, then realize that going back to moderate and electable is a better long-term strategy than being the bat**** insane party.
That's why Ryan's big announcement came last week. He waited just long enough to get some positive buzz about potentially being the guy, but not long enough to be left with any of the stench of the upcoming Republican **** show.
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Very good point. If Trump is the nominee and they get crushed, Cruz is going to want his turn. That'll set up a very interesting contest between Cruz and Ryan...
Very good point. If Trump is the nominee and they get crushed, Cruz is going to want his turn. That'll set up a very interesting contest between Cruz and Ryan...
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
They have a problem, though. The TP wave means their lower bench are all numbnuts. They've lost a generation of moderates who either looked at the primaried moderates and said "f-ck politics," or looked at the party's descent into fascism and said, "I'm switching parties."
Sane Republicans are already thin on the ground, and even if what you say does happen, it will get worse before it gets better.
They have a problem, though. The TP wave means their lower bench are all numbnuts. They've lost a generation of moderates who either looked at the primaried moderates and said "f-ck politics," or looked at the party's descent into fascism and said, "I'm switching parties."
Sane Republicans are already thin on the ground, and even if what you say does happen, it will get worse before it gets better.
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A double standard in DNC fundraising? I'm shocked! SHOCKED!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...lping-clinton-raise-big-money/article/2588857
A double standard in DNC fundraising? I'm shocked! SHOCKED!
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...lping-clinton-raise-big-money/article/2588857
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem
Cruz's political career will be toast outside of Texas after this election.
Very good point. If Trump is the nominee and they get crushed, Cruz is going to want his turn. That'll set up a very interesting contest between Cruz and Ryan...
Cruz's political career will be toast outside of Texas after this election.
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