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Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

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Hilly will carry Manhattan and all its wall st rich!!!
 
Regardless of the classification, depending upon the size of the tax, it could have a serious impact on the average person's 401k or union member's pension. If it were a few pennies per transaction, much like the SEC fee, it'd be no big deal. If Bernie's trying to provide free college to all state schools, then you're looking at a serious impact to the average person's retirement. Those fees charged by mutual fund companies eat into the effective annual rate of return, reducing the power of the compounding IRR.

Have we still not seen the plan to ****** tuition growth? Or better yet roll it back first?
 
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Have we still not seen the plan to ****** tuition growth? Or better yet roll it back first?

Election promises are one thing, actual legislative action is something else entirely.
 
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Why, Ed?

@FoxNews: .@edhenry: "State election officials saying that maybe over 125,000 Democrats in the borough of Brooklyn were denied the right to vote..."
 
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Why, Ed?

@FoxNews: .@edhenry: "State election officials saying that maybe over 125,000 Democrats in the borough of Brooklyn were denied the right to vote..."

cause they want hilly to win! geez
 
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I saw exit polling with Drumpf 64, Kasich 22, Cruz 14. I wonder if that would give him all 95.
 
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@reidepstein:

With 43% of precincts reporting results in NY-15 in the Bronx, 332 Republicans have voted.
 
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NY 23 (Ithaca et al) hasn't reported yet. It's going to be very weird.

I assume 10 and 12 are in Manhattan, as both are Drumpf by about 1%. He may actually run every district.
 
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AP gives Trump the win, and CNN has an exit poll that's 52-48 Hillary.

Well, I'm gonna go ahead and guess that exit poll had a lot of input from people voting with provisional ballots hoping they'd get counted later. Still a lot of Upstate to go, but NYC still has a good amount of precincts left and Nassau hasn't reported anything.
 
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NY 23 (Ithaca et al) hasn't reported yet. It's going to be very weird.

I assume 10 and 12 are in Manhattan, as both are Drumpf by about 1%. He may actually run every district.

Sounds like Kasich is actually leading in Manhatten (2-3 delegates) with an additional one possible in Albany, Syracuse and Rochester. Latest thinking is 89 to 5 to 0 assuming a good end for Kasich.
 
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Trump will walk away with at least 89 delegates, which moves him from 91 to 95% of 538's target projection.

Next week 538 targets him for just 97 of the 172 available delegates. He's way ahead in Pennsylvania, which has 71 delegates, but apparently Cruz is eyeing to grab a lot of the unbound.
 
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This is starting to feel pretty much over for Trump and very much over for Clinton. Her speech tonight shows that she has the white house squarely in her sights along the lines of the 75% presidential likelihood that one finds in the prediction markets.
 
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How sweet it is! My take on the results:

Democrats: Hillary pretty much wiped her a ss with Bernie's face! All that sanctimonious self centered BS didn't seem to do him much good, as he gave away almost all the delegates he won in small caucus states the last couple of weeks. Democrats have firmly rejected his brand of lunatic policies in the form of the pragmatic progressivism of Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Elizabeth Warren. Sanders is free to stay in the race of course until she's won the majority of pledged delegates, but I hope he stops carrying water for the Republicans and gets back to issues. Someone (Kep probably) was saying how Sanders attacks on Wall St would play well in NY since those voters have to deal the most with Wall St. Wondering what he thinks of that prediction now. :eek: :D Lastly, he really does need to turf his campaign manager Baghdad Bob. The guy's an embarrassment.

Republicans: Go TRUMP Go! He picked up like 90 delegates and is back on track. If he's at 850 now, the goal of the anti-Trumpers is to keep him under 1000 by after next week, which is going to be hard to do. If he hits that, coupled with an expected sweep in winner take all NJ - his expected win in CA should net him the 1237 he needs.
 
How sweet it is! My take on the results:

Democrats: Hillary pretty much wiped her a ss with Bernie's face! All that sanctimonious self centered BS didn't seem to do him much good, as he gave away almost all the delegates he won in small caucus states the last couple of weeks. Democrats have firmly rejected his brand of lunatic policies in the form of the pragmatic progressivism of Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Elizabeth Warren. Sanders is free to stay in the race of course until she's won the majority of pledged delegates, but I hope he stops carrying water for the Republicans and gets back to issues. Someone (Kep probably) was saying how Sanders attacks on Wall St would play well in NY since those voters have to deal the most with Wall St. Wondering what he thinks of that prediction now. :eek: :D Lastly, he really does need to turf his campaign manager Baghdad Bob. The guy's an embarrassment.

Republicans: Go TRUMP Go! He picked up like 90 delegates and is back on track. If he's at 850 now, the goal of the anti-Trumpers is to keep him under 1000 by after next week, which is going to be hard to do. If he hits that, coupled with an expected sweep in winner take all NJ - his expected win in CA should net him the 1237 he needs.

Look at the map. HRC won NYC, tbe surrounding counties, and Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo. The rest of the Empire State went to Bernie, frequently with 60/40 margins.

In fact, the closer to Wall Street, the greater her support.

Wiped his arse? No, not hardly. Won fantasyland? Yep. Meanwhile, the voters who are struggling economically, whose jobs are disappearing, whose paychecks are not keeping up with rising costs for healthcare, gas, food, utilities, taxes, etc. went for Bernie.

A Potemkin candidate is your Hillary.
 
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Hilly all up in arms shrieking in a voice like rusty ball bearings this morning that Bernie is not allowed to mention her thievery, stupidity, hatefulness, and/or dishonesty, because it will "give ammunition to the Republicans" in the fall. Come again? Where does she get off telling other candidates they're not allowed to campaign? I don't get it.
Besides, wouldn't it be an advantage to figure out ahead of time how she's going to lie her way out of the facts?
 
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Hilly all up in arms shrieking in a voice like rusty ball bearings this morning that Bernie is not allowed to mention her thievery, stupidity, hatefulness, and/or dishonesty, because it will "give ammunition to the Republicans" in the fall. Come again? Where does she get off telling other candidates they're not allowed to campaign? I don't get it.
Besides, wouldn't it be an advantage to figure out ahead of time how she's going to lie her way out of the facts?

She should call out the senile sanctimonious stoner. Bernie didn't get his way so he's going to pitch a fit and throw his toys around the room? Great, that should do wonders for the party.

Look at the map. HRC won NYC, tbe surrounding counties, and Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo. The rest of the Empire State went to Bernie, frequently with 60/40 margins.

In fact, the closer to Wall Street, the greater her support.

Wiped his arse? No, not hardly. Won fantasyland? Yep. Meanwhile, the voters who are struggling economically, whose jobs are disappearing, whose paychecks are not keeping up with rising costs for healthcare, gas, food, utilities, taxes, etc. went for Bernie.

A Potemkin candidate is your Hillary.

So Hillary won where people live and Bernie won where they don't. This is a problem....how again?
 
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Hilly all up in arms shrieking in a voice like rusty ball bearings this morning that Bernie is not allowed to mention her thievery, stupidity, hatefulness, and/or dishonesty, because it will "give ammunition to the Republicans" in the fall. Come again? Where does she get off telling other candidates they're not allowed to campaign? I don't get it.

Besides, wouldn't it be an advantage to figure out ahead of time how she's going to lie her way out of the facts?

Hillary does come across better, now. She's still terrible in front of a crowd and she has the charisma of a banker turning you down for a mortgage, but in one-on-one interviews when she is relaxed and not trying to mug it up for the camera, she's fine. Her biggest problem is Bill's biggest problem: she is simply inherently untrustworthy. If her opponent is Cruz that zeros out, as he is a comic caricature of "shifty." If her opponent is Drumpf, I actually don't think it matters whether she's honest or not. Drumpf took Jeb to the woodshed and Jeb really didn't do anything wrong. If you fall for his shtick you're going to lap up his critique of Hillary; otherwise you won't. Biff Tannen's target doesn't have any say in the matter.

This was a solid win so Rover deserves to crow all he wants. He still doesn't understand either the legitimate appeal of Sanders or the legitimate criticisms of Hillary, or he's just electioneering and in deflect, distract, deny mode, so it's useless to try to reason with him, but the bottom line is "SCOREBOARD!" and he can yell it out at peak volume. Barring a serious revelation about Hillary she is going to be the nominee. I've tried to make the case concerning her weaknesses and that as liberals we need to demand better from our nominee, but even though it is self-serving she is accidentally correct that it's now time to start drawing together and training our sights on the common enemies of all humanity.

To paraphrase FDR: she may be a son of a b-tch, but she's our son of a b-tch.
 
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