What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

Status
Not open for further replies.
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

rufus said:
You don't win if you run a chitty campaign. Good candidates understand this.
Click to expand...

With all due respect, the campaign that ends up winning is the one with a good candidate. As I'm sure you realize, the winners get to write the history. A good example is Howard Dean. When he took over the DNC, you could hear Goopers snickering from DC to LA. Terrible choice. No experience in party building. Blah Blah Blah. After election night in 2006, their laughter was replaced by tears.

The point of running for President is to get elected. Period. Everything else is secondary. Whoever manages to do so by definition ran a good campaign and achieved what only....43? people (only counting Cleveland once) would have accomplished previously in the 225+ year history of the office. (actually may be less than that as Ford was never elected on a national ticket).
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

Princeton beat AIU this year. Does that make them a "good" program?
Winning ≠ Good
Distinction & Difference
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

busterman62 said:
Princeton beat AIU this year. Does that make them a "good" program?
Winning ≠ Good
Distinction & Difference
Click to expand...

North Dakota won the national championship. Did they have a good season? Did they benefit from weak competition? Would they have beaten the undefeated Cornell team from 1970? WHO CARES. All people will remember is that they won. Same thing with a Presidential contest.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

I acquiesce both to your ignorance and your obtuseness.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

busterman62 said:
I acquiesce both to your ignorance and your obtuseness.
Click to expand...

Apology accepted! However, you still haven't explained how the goal of running for President is something other than actually winning the race. :confused:
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

Rover said:
With all due respect, the campaign that ends up winning is the one with a good candidate.
Click to expand...

Funny you say this yet you never say Al Gore was a bad candidate...it is always someone else to blame for his lack of ability to inspire people to vote for him. (even in his home state)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

The better candidate always wins


:D
Mookie's belly still hurts from laughing that one off :p

Woo hoo hoo
 
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

Handyman said:
Funny you say this yet you never say Al Gore was a bad candidate...it is always someone else to blame for his lack of ability to inspire people to vote for him. (even in his home state)
Click to expand...

I've never said Al Gore was a bad candidate? :confused: Did they have a Sanders rally next door to your house and you got a contact high? :D

Oddly enough, but probably because he ended up being the worst President in living memory, people forget that GWB was a far better campaigner than he gets credit for. He certainly rallied the base as well as being non-threatening enough for the 10% of people in the middle to give him the benefit of the doubt. Problem for the GOP is their base is now too small to carry them in a Presidential election, and they keep nominating stiff and loons who turn off the 10% in the middle.
 
Last edited:
Re: Campaign 2016 Part XI: the Two Party Problem

mookie1995 said:
The better candidate always wins


:D
Mookie's belly still hurts from laughing that one off :p

Woo hoo hoo
Click to expand...

Something tells me its not your belly that's sore, but I'll trust you'll keep that info to yourself. :eek:

For fun, name me the last time a better candidate lost a Presidential race. I'm talking the general election.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top