Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
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Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Did he really just say that? I know he's taking a shot at transgender. But he's a politician (and a minister) and he's talking about a desire to shower with girls in a public statement.
Did he really just say that? I know he's taking a shot at transgender. But he's a politician (and a minister) and he's talking about a desire to shower with girls in a public statement.
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
He's been carrying water for those creepy Duggars including their child molester son, so I think this is further down on his list of odd statements. But, yeah....
He's been carrying water for those creepy Duggars including their child molester son, so I think this is further down on his list of odd statements. But, yeah....
Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Just started "Biblical Literacy" by Timonthy Beal, which opens with an allusion to the story of Frederick Douglas being forbidden to read the Bible when he was 8. Slave owners forbade slaves to read the Bible yet endlessly lectured from it as an excuse for slavery. Today, fundamentalist evangelical Christian activists impose their own cramped, warped reading of the Bible on everybody, utterly missing the point of Christ's teachings in the process. Their creepy, misogynist hatred and deserpate end times fetishism may even have been shared by some church fathers like Augustine (himself a Freudian psychological prize -- just ask Monica) or John of Patmos, but even if that's so, the Bible is still so much more than just them and their perennial reactionary victim complex.
Hopefully the sane, kind believers among us who resonate with Paul's letter to the Corinthians about love will take the public face of Christianity back from the Morlocks. If they don't, it may be up to atheists to rescue Christ from the rapacious degenerates who have stolen His name.
He's been carrying water for those creepy Duggars including their child molester son, so I think this is further down on his list of odd statements. But, yeah....
Just started "Biblical Literacy" by Timonthy Beal, which opens with an allusion to the story of Frederick Douglas being forbidden to read the Bible when he was 8. Slave owners forbade slaves to read the Bible yet endlessly lectured from it as an excuse for slavery. Today, fundamentalist evangelical Christian activists impose their own cramped, warped reading of the Bible on everybody, utterly missing the point of Christ's teachings in the process. Their creepy, misogynist hatred and deserpate end times fetishism may even have been shared by some church fathers like Augustine (himself a Freudian psychological prize -- just ask Monica) or John of Patmos, but even if that's so, the Bible is still so much more than just them and their perennial reactionary victim complex.
Hopefully the sane, kind believers among us who resonate with Paul's letter to the Corinthians about love will take the public face of Christianity back from the Morlocks. If they don't, it may be up to atheists to rescue Christ from the rapacious degenerates who have stolen His name.
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Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
We'll see what he has to say about this.
Hman kewpie doll and secret crush Megyn Kelly was criticizing people "for linking the Duggars with Republican politicians." That is Fox-DEPCON-1 hypocrisy, Megyn. Every knuckledragging GOP hopeful slathered themselves all over the Duggars for years trying to get some of the fundy stank on themselves. The molester was also a lobbyist for the Family Research Council, Tony Perkins' group of creeps.
They made their bed, let them lie in it (with a molester of pre-school kids. Allegedly.)
He's been carrying water for those creepy Duggars including their child molester son, so I think this is further down on his list of odd statements. But, yeah....
We'll see what he has to say about this.
Hman kewpie doll and secret crush Megyn Kelly was criticizing people "for linking the Duggars with Republican politicians." That is Fox-DEPCON-1 hypocrisy, Megyn. Every knuckledragging GOP hopeful slathered themselves all over the Duggars for years trying to get some of the fundy stank on themselves. The molester was also a lobbyist for the Family Research Council, Tony Perkins' group of creeps.
They made their bed, let them lie in it (with a molester of pre-school kids. Allegedly.)
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Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Rover will be happy about this.
I'm ok with it. Wherever she can do the most good, more power to her, and I mean that literally.
Rover will be happy about this.
I'm ok with it. Wherever she can do the most good, more power to her, and I mean that literally.
Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
I'm of the school of thought, and perhaps Warren is too, that you can use existing laws and regulations to really crack down on unfair practices. Having somebody who understands how to use all those tools in invaluable, especially if they're in a position like the Senate to bring high profile scrutiny to the issue.
I'm of the school of thought, and perhaps Warren is too, that you can use existing laws and regulations to really crack down on unfair practices. Having somebody who understands how to use all those tools in invaluable, especially if they're in a position like the Senate to bring high profile scrutiny to the issue.
Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
The people, united, will never be defeated.
There's no difference between Democratic and Republican voters on re-regulating elections and taking control back from the billionaires. It's only Republican (and many Democratic) politicians, and of course K Street and Wall Street, who are trying to protect the system of legalized bribery.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
There's no difference between Democratic and Republican voters on re-regulating elections and taking control back from the billionaires. It's only Republican (and many Democratic) politicians, and of course K Street and Wall Street, who are trying to protect the system of legalized bribery.
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Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Although I would go farther than existing laws, I agree we at a bare minimum need someone with the knowledge and will to go after the corruption. That is something we never have under Republican administrations (where big money interest is a feature, not a bug), and have had only grudgingly and with few teeth under Clinton and Obama.
Where we may differ is in recognizing the laws themselves have been so weakened and corrupted that they have to be made much tighter and wider in scope. Since at least 1980 money has run roughshod over people in DC -- we have 35 years of rot to repair.
Although I would go farther than existing laws, I agree we at a bare minimum need someone with the knowledge and will to go after the corruption. That is something we never have under Republican administrations (where big money interest is a feature, not a bug), and have had only grudgingly and with few teeth under Clinton and Obama.
Where we may differ is in recognizing the laws themselves have been so weakened and corrupted that they have to be made much tighter and wider in scope. Since at least 1980 money has run roughshod over people in DC -- we have 35 years of rot to repair.
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I think back to the time the NY Attorney General's office started doing the SEC's job for them. Lo and behold, it turns out you could send people to jail for fraud. Who would have thunk it? Or shine a spotlight on ridiculous pay packages (remember Dick Grasso getting $140M in one year as head of the NYSE until it became a public issue). To my knowledge NY didn't pass new laws regulating Wall St. They used existing ones while the SEC sat around with their thumbs up their @ sses until they decided to go after Martha Stewart for her whopping 10K insider trading scandal.
So, often times the anti-regulation crowd counters by saying we have enough of them. Okay - I'd call their bluff. Lets start actually enforcing those regulations and then see if there are any gaps.
I think back to the time the NY Attorney General's office started doing the SEC's job for them. Lo and behold, it turns out you could send people to jail for fraud. Who would have thunk it? Or shine a spotlight on ridiculous pay packages (remember Dick Grasso getting $140M in one year as head of the NYSE until it became a public issue). To my knowledge NY didn't pass new laws regulating Wall St. They used existing ones while the SEC sat around with their thumbs up their @ sses until they decided to go after Martha Stewart for her whopping 10K insider trading scandal.
So, often times the anti-regulation crowd counters by saying we have enough of them. Okay - I'd call their bluff. Lets start actually enforcing those regulations and then see if there are any gaps.
Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
I did not write this to Kos, but it is basically how I feel about the current moment in Democratic politics.
tl; dr: We'll never get real progress unless we can know it when we see it. Clinton is status quo, which is lightyears better than dragging the country back to the orcs. But Bernie is real progress. Democrats, particularly people who call themselves Progressives or Liberals, should respect that and actively support all his "crazy" policies (which are basically mainstream Republican economic policies from 1970). If he loses the primary, fine, then we Drive Miss Daisy. Put until that happens, be the change you wish to see in the world.
I did not write this to Kos, but it is basically how I feel about the current moment in Democratic politics.
tl; dr: We'll never get real progress unless we can know it when we see it. Clinton is status quo, which is lightyears better than dragging the country back to the orcs. But Bernie is real progress. Democrats, particularly people who call themselves Progressives or Liberals, should respect that and actively support all his "crazy" policies (which are basically mainstream Republican economic policies from 1970). If he loses the primary, fine, then we Drive Miss Daisy. Put until that happens, be the change you wish to see in the world.
Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
I'd be ok with a political spectrum with Hillary on the right and Bernie on the left, and each side winning about half the time.
daily kos is way too conservative for you, Kep.
I'd be ok with a political spectrum with Hillary on the right and Bernie on the left, and each side winning about half the time.
Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
The clown car gets more crowded.
John Stewart really shouldn't have left until 2017.
The clown car gets more crowded.
John Stewart really shouldn't have left until 2017.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
So at this point, 2016 is basically ALL THE REPUBLICANS vs. Hildebeast
So at this point, 2016 is basically ALL THE REPUBLICANS vs. Hildebeast
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
That's quite a skewed view. Clinton wouldn't advance and Dem interests? Simply a silly notion.
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Thank you Bob. I'm still flabbergasted at how Clinton, a woman who the right has tried to take down for 25 years, is somehow really a Republican? Okay......
Thank you Bob. I'm still flabbergasted at how Clinton, a woman who the right has tried to take down for 25 years, is somehow really a Republican? Okay......
Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
"That's silly" is not a logical rebuttal. Please tell me in what areas do you think she would advance Democratic policy?
She, like any Democrat, would hold the ground we've gotten back, but I'm talking about moving the ball farther down the field. Would she do this? I don't see any specific policy area where she seems to be an improvement over Obama. One might argue that her SCOTUS nominations would improve the Court by either replacing a retiring conservative judge with a liberal, or resetting the odometer on a liberal slot, depending on the retirement. But again, any Democratic president would do the same, and I see nothing in Hillary's history or policy stances to suggest she would appoint a more liberal justice. Her Wins Above Democratic Replacement is 0.
"That's silly" is not a logical rebuttal. Please tell me in what areas do you think she would advance Democratic policy?
She, like any Democrat, would hold the ground we've gotten back, but I'm talking about moving the ball farther down the field. Would she do this? I don't see any specific policy area where she seems to be an improvement over Obama. One might argue that her SCOTUS nominations would improve the Court by either replacing a retiring conservative judge with a liberal, or resetting the odometer on a liberal slot, depending on the retirement. But again, any Democratic president would do the same, and I see nothing in Hillary's history or policy stances to suggest she would appoint a more liberal justice. Her Wins Above Democratic Replacement is 0.
Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!
Really? Really? You don't know how she'd advance Dem interests?
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