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Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

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Kepler said:
Since black people are people, black people can't not be racist.

Our brains were designed to make associations so that little flicker in the grass tiger run oops looks like cousin Ogg didn't make that connection fast enough. They do it even when the associations don't make any sense. If your brain is functioning, it's constantly creating hypotheses like whites can't jump, southerners are idiots, Asians can't drive, and black people don't tip, particularly if it's talking to other brains who have heard those theories from yet other brains. Parents' brains are particularly good at passing down stupid hypotheses to their children's brains, and unfortunately the stupider the brain the more likely it will mistake its false hypotheses as true because they're stupider.

Presto: racism.
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You know what the sad thing is? I've actually talked to people that believe black people can't be racist because racism is specifically white-on-black. Needless to say, I don't talk to them any longer.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
You know what the sad thing is? I've actually talked to people that believe black people can't be racist because racism is specifically white-on-black. Needless to say, I don't talk to them any longer.
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If anybody wants to talk to YOU, I'd suggest you hold onto them like grim death. :D
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
You know what the sad thing is? I've actually talked to people that believe black people can't be racist because racism is specifically white-on-black. Needless to say, I don't talk to them any longer.
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There was an academic concept in the 90s that if you had asymmetrical power the dominant side was the cause of all the social issues in the dynamic -- so, for instance, black racism in America was actually white people's fault. It was all very Edward Said and I didn't think anybody outside of Yale and Five Percent Nation accepted it. Maybe you ran into some. I never have -- academics, contra popular belief, are actually really good at sussing out that kind of BS.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
I suppose you'll next be telling us that black people can't be racist. And don't call them African-American, either; this guy was more of an African-American than at least 99.999% of them are.
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Do you force your gf to wear a John Daly mask when you two are intimate just to get a hard on? It's come down to about every 8th post where you're either refencing the man or outright quoting him.
 
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St. Clown said:
Do you force your gf to wear a John Daly mask when you two are intimate just to get a hard on? It's come down to about every 8th post where you're either refencing the man or outright quoting him.
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I believe the crank he usually refers to is Dr. Richard Day; a different dude.
 
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417205/gop-needs-run-against-last-16-years-charles-c-w-cooke

Interesting if ultimately flawed premise although worth a read. A righty Finally admits the Bush administration was a failure and people don't want to return to that era. His big flaw is admitting the fondness people have for the 1990's, which might explain why someone running named "Clinton" is leading in the polls right now instead of expecting a Rubio or Walker to be able to cash in on that.
 
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Rover said:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417205/gop-needs-run-against-last-16-years-charles-c-w-cooke

Interesting if ultimately flawed premise although worth a read. A righty Finally admits the Bush administration was a failure and people don't want to return to that era. His big flaw is admitting the fondness people have for the 1990's, which might explain why someone running named "Clinton" is leading in the polls right now instead of expecting a Rubio or Walker to be able to cash in on that.
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That article should scare Republicans. Not for what it says, which is rote and partisan, but for what it implies -- that to win Republicans will have to address the failure of the Dubya years. That's scary because Republicans are divided almost exactly in half over whether the Bush years were a failure or not. To people outside their bubble that sounds insane, but that division is as significant as the division among Democrats in the 80s over whether the Great Society had failed. As with the Democratic precedent, it takes a long time to settle a schism that foundational (and it only happens with ideological genocide: one side is driven into extinction, the way the hard left was). The obvious candidate for extinction in this case is the radical right, but they're not going anywhere for a while -- they control the House, have divas in the Senate and Hate Radio, and intimidate the GOP leadership.

Elections probably turn on personalities and nice hair more than we want to admit, so it may not affect any given election, but it can't help them over the long haul until they lance that boil.
 
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Didn't I say that a while ago about Jeb? In order for him to succeed, he has to throw his brother under the bus.

Hillary has to check under the covers.
 
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joecct said:
Didn't I say that a while ago about Jeb? In order for him to succeed, he has to throw his brother under the bus.

Hillary has to check under the covers.
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If the president got one ostracism per term, we all know who those two would choose. :)
 
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On another track, here are the presidents for the last 100 years. Who would you want to see run in 2016?
Wilson
Harding
Coolidge
Hoover
Roosevelt
Truman
Eisenhower
Kennedy
Johnson
Nixon
Ford
Carter
Reagan
G.H.W. Bush
Clinton
G. W. Bush
Obama
 
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joecct said:
On another track, here are the presidents for the last 100 years. Who would you want to see run in 2016?
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Well. Most of them would be pretty old.

I'd give FDR, Ike, Kennedy, Bush Sr and Clinton another shot. Nobody else was worth much, and some (Harding, Nixon, Dubya) are utterly scorn-worthy.
 
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joecct said:
Didn't I say that a while ago about Jeb? In order for him to succeed, he has to throw his brother under the bus.

Hillary has to check under the covers.
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Bill Clinton's like 70. All you have to do is keep the Viagra out of the WH and that problem solves itself. ;)

I agree that Bush is a flawed champion for his party. I'm a bit surprised the Corporate wing of the party didn't nip this in the bud and find an alternative. Its possible they were counting on Christie before he imploded, but they run the very real risk of getting a loose cannon for a nominee instead in regards to their pet causes. Regarding Bush, I'd pay attention to his fundraising. While he has access to his father and brother's network, I'm real curious if the Koch/Alderson/etc crowd gets on board after his initial blitz or do they start funding someone else (like Alderson did with Newt last time). With Hillary Clinton probably being tolerable to a good portion of these Richie Rich's maybe they don't mind sitting this one out or hedging their bets.
 
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Rover said:
I'd pay attention to his fundraising. While he has access to his father and brother's network, I'm real curious if the Koch/Alderson/etc crowd gets on board after his initial blitz or do they start funding someone else (like Alderson did with Newt last time). With Hillary Clinton probably being tolerable to a good portion of these Richie Rich's maybe they don't mind sitting this one out or hedging their bets.
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My guess is regardless of where their money goes in the primaries, they still open up the firehose for the R nominee in the general. The point here is to spend millions to steal billions. As long as the R nominee isn't an actual libertarian, all that money goes to the GOP trough.

The really cool election would be an honest to god Republican libertarian vs Hillary. If I'm Wall Street, I actually have to stop and think which side my bread is buttered on. But an honest to god libertarian isn't running.
 
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