Kepler
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Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
I think this statement:
speaks for itself.
I think this statement:
speaks for itself.
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Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
Josh Marshall writes another column I could have written. I'm gonna sue that guy...
tl; dr: Just because Drumpf is winning the GOP by throwing his feces doesn't mean he'll win the general by doing that, because the gorillas who are impressed by that sort of thing are all in the GOP. In the general, he'll have to adopt a different style because the "I'm loud and proud and dumb and not politically correct" goosestep only works inside his party.
He can still win (after all, Hillary's always even money to implode) but he won't win because of the Mein Drumpf routine that's winning him the Republican nomination.
Josh Marshall writes another column I could have written. I'm gonna sue that guy...
tl; dr: Just because Drumpf is winning the GOP by throwing his feces doesn't mean he'll win the general by doing that, because the gorillas who are impressed by that sort of thing are all in the GOP. In the general, he'll have to adopt a different style because the "I'm loud and proud and dumb and not politically correct" goosestep only works inside his party.
He can still win (after all, Hillary's always even money to implode) but he won't win because of the Mein Drumpf routine that's winning him the Republican nomination.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
is kep missing the run up in numbers that tD gets in open / crossover primary states??
is kep missing the run up in numbers that tD gets in open / crossover primary states??
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
bloomie would be hard pressed to win many if any states.
bloomie would be hard pressed to win many if any states.
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
I will have to take exception to your thinly veiled insult of gorillas. In the early 80s, the San Francisco zoo had an ape that (who?) would entertain visitors with theatrics until a crowd had gathered against the fence. Then it (he) would go inside its cave and come running out of a different opening on the side of the crowd and throw feces on it.
No ****. I'd been warned about it and wouldn't believe it until I saw it. Drumpf can pitch it, but he never would have thought of that.
I will have to take exception to your thinly veiled insult of gorillas. In the early 80s, the San Francisco zoo had an ape that (who?) would entertain visitors with theatrics until a crowd had gathered against the fence. Then it (he) would go inside its cave and come running out of a different opening on the side of the crowd and throw feces on it.
No ****. I'd been warned about it and wouldn't believe it until I saw it. Drumpf can pitch it, but he never would have thought of that.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
I'll allow it. I apologize to all gorillas for comparing them with the authoritarian right.
I'll allow it. I apologize to all gorillas for comparing them with the authoritarian right.
Spartanforlife4
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Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
Earlier today an entire commercial break was a block of commercials.
Hillary's are very traditional, but completely positive. I haven't seen a single negative ad towards Bernie.
Bernie's are more on the inspirational side, also all positive.
Most of Rubio's seem to be negative.
Kasich's are narrated by the guy who does the Ford commercials, are also put together like one. It's geared toward Michigan, so not surprising.
Trump's are negative toward Rubio, and the ones promoting Trump honestly seem put together like a WWE or Monster Truck Rally ad.
I don't think I've seen a Cruz ad.
After tomorrow we get a nice little break until the general starts up, though I'll award bonus points to whoever puts out national ads during March Madness.
Earlier today an entire commercial break was a block of commercials.
Hillary's are very traditional, but completely positive. I haven't seen a single negative ad towards Bernie.
Bernie's are more on the inspirational side, also all positive.
Most of Rubio's seem to be negative.
Kasich's are narrated by the guy who does the Ford commercials, are also put together like one. It's geared toward Michigan, so not surprising.
Trump's are negative toward Rubio, and the ones promoting Trump honestly seem put together like a WWE or Monster Truck Rally ad.
I don't think I've seen a Cruz ad.
After tomorrow we get a nice little break until the general starts up, though I'll award bonus points to whoever puts out national ads during March Madness.
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
To stop tD, who I think will go 100% nutty when he starts losing regularly, voters need to vote for Cruz in TX, Rubio in FL, and Kasich in MI/OH. Spread the delegate count around so no one has a majority.
Enough to stop the momentum and for the voters to see that the Emperor has no clothes, no plan, no idea. Then we get about the business of choosing a real nominee.
One other thing, I want none of the other 3,when combined with another of the 3, to have a majority of the delegates. No deals. I want a floor fight that Vince McMahon would be proud of charging $49.95 for us to watch. I probably won't see it, but it's my fantasy, not the networks.
To stop tD, who I think will go 100% nutty when he starts losing regularly, voters need to vote for Cruz in TX, Rubio in FL, and Kasich in MI/OH. Spread the delegate count around so no one has a majority.
Enough to stop the momentum and for the voters to see that the Emperor has no clothes, no plan, no idea. Then we get about the business of choosing a real nominee.
One other thing, I want none of the other 3,when combined with another of the 3, to have a majority of the delegates. No deals. I want a floor fight that Vince McMahon would be proud of charging $49.95 for us to watch. I probably won't see it, but it's my fantasy, not the networks.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
http://gawker.com/look-at-these-insane-internal-maps-outlining-how-michae-1763396763
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Not according to his own internal studies...
http://gawker.com/look-at-these-insane-internal-maps-outlining-how-michae-1763396763
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dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
A cage fight wouldn't be very much fun. More disturbing than anything. Cruz would pull out a knife and gut Trump first and smear trump's blood on his face Lord of the Flies style. Rubio would hide in the corner while Cruz stabs Kasich who claims he doesn't want to fight. He dies a martyr to his own cause. Cruz turns his attention to Rubio and it's all over in minutes.
A cage fight wouldn't be very much fun. More disturbing than anything. Cruz would pull out a knife and gut Trump first and smear trump's blood on his face Lord of the Flies style. Rubio would hide in the corner while Cruz stabs Kasich who claims he doesn't want to fight. He dies a martyr to his own cause. Cruz turns his attention to Rubio and it's all over in minutes.
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
You're ****ing with me, aren't you? When did they start running blocks of commercials during commercial breaks?
You're ****ing with me, aren't you? When did they start running blocks of commercials during commercial breaks?
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
wow. very similar to mookie's own internal studies that have halle berry coming over for tea this afternoon!!!!
wow. very similar to mookie's own internal studies that have halle berry coming over for tea this afternoon!!!!
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
Eminem?
To be fair I'd watch political ads if they were done by rappers.
Eminem?
To be fair I'd watch political ads if they were done by rappers.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
A decent article about the Dem MI primary, but the Comments, which are substantive, are more interesting. Even Rover will like them since they lean towards Hillary. Plus no clothes-lining or other silly rhetorical tactics.
RCP poll of polls has Hillary by 21 and Trump by 12 in MI.
If Hillary beats Sanders by more than 20 in MI I would say it's time for him to withdraw. Might as well allow Hillary to save her money for the general, and the longer Bernie stays in the more likely Hillary or her surrogates will say/do something idiotic that angers the liberal wing. The GOP is already campaigning directly against the Clintons, so there is no benefit in remaining divided.
OTOH, if Sanders can pull it down towards 10 points that allows the national media to create a horserace narrative, and we get to see whether without the mantle of inevitability she collapses like 2008. Might as well find out now rather than in August.
A decent article about the Dem MI primary, but the Comments, which are substantive, are more interesting. Even Rover will like them since they lean towards Hillary. Plus no clothes-lining or other silly rhetorical tactics.
RCP poll of polls has Hillary by 21 and Trump by 12 in MI.
If Hillary beats Sanders by more than 20 in MI I would say it's time for him to withdraw. Might as well allow Hillary to save her money for the general, and the longer Bernie stays in the more likely Hillary or her surrogates will say/do something idiotic that angers the liberal wing. The GOP is already campaigning directly against the Clintons, so there is no benefit in remaining divided.
OTOH, if Sanders can pull it down towards 10 points that allows the national media to create a horserace narrative, and we get to see whether without the mantle of inevitability she collapses like 2008. Might as well find out now rather than in August.
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All well and good but Rubio is sinking like a stone. Furthermore I saw an article which has a ring of truth to it that Cruz is going all out to take votes away from Rubio in FL and have Trump win the race, which would have the effect of forcing Rubio out.
Having said that though, the brokered convention idea is absurd. Donald Trump is not a "team player". If he has the most delegates but gets screwed over at the convention, he's going to take his voters and either say home or do something 3rd party. There's no stopping him from doing so. He gets free press, has universal name recognition, and doesn't want or need anything from the party. Only way to stop a disaster is to beat Trump in the primaries, and that means getting behind.....Calgary Ted!!!
A good article. I thought the comments brought up an interesting point, which is someone saying that NAFTA didn't cause the problems in Michigan. Poster went on to reference Michael Moore's "Roger and Me" which was made in the mid-80's.
Neither Hillary nor Bernie (or certainly the Republicans) has much of a solution for the plight of the working class, less educated people in this country. What Sanders is proposing mostly and Hillary to a lesser extend is a wealth transfer which is fine and I'm on board with but that's not going to bring the manufacturing jobs back that these people need. Not everyone has the ability to get a college degree and then go work in biotech.
All well and good but Rubio is sinking like a stone. Furthermore I saw an article which has a ring of truth to it that Cruz is going all out to take votes away from Rubio in FL and have Trump win the race, which would have the effect of forcing Rubio out.
Having said that though, the brokered convention idea is absurd. Donald Trump is not a "team player". If he has the most delegates but gets screwed over at the convention, he's going to take his voters and either say home or do something 3rd party. There's no stopping him from doing so. He gets free press, has universal name recognition, and doesn't want or need anything from the party. Only way to stop a disaster is to beat Trump in the primaries, and that means getting behind.....Calgary Ted!!!
A good article. I thought the comments brought up an interesting point, which is someone saying that NAFTA didn't cause the problems in Michigan. Poster went on to reference Michael Moore's "Roger and Me" which was made in the mid-80's.
Neither Hillary nor Bernie (or certainly the Republicans) has much of a solution for the plight of the working class, less educated people in this country. What Sanders is proposing mostly and Hillary to a lesser extend is a wealth transfer which is fine and I'm on board with but that's not going to bring the manufacturing jobs back that these people need. Not everyone has the ability to get a college degree and then go work in biotech.
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Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
I agree with this completely. Knee jerk protectionism has never worked out well for the working class -- for every job it saves it just makes goods more expensive. On the other hand, the global uplift of globalism, which is real, is such a long term project (a century or more) that there needs to be a recognition that in the short term blue collar workers in rich countries have to have some other support, be it increased welfare, free education, reduction of wealth inequality, or all three. It doesn't help that the managerial and financial class that pushed globalism got INSANELY rich while working class Americans got screwed.
In the long run, a global working class with purchasing power, rights codified within a system of laws, and self-organized as a international labor force, was the dream of the Internationale. Globalism will get us there, but at the temporary (albeit long term) expense of the workers in rich countries. Enough surplus wealth is created by globalism to tide them over -- we just have to burn the plutocratic ticks off the economic body with re-distributive taxes so we can remove them with regulatory tweezers. The folks who run the world economy are obviously not interested in doing that, so the Pikettys and Warrens have to create plans and policies for liberal parties all over the world to promulgate. Bernie's 74, so he thinks reflexively that globalism is bad. Globalism can actually be good, as long as the profits are used to make the losers of the process (the workers in rich countries) whole again, and as long as we bend our economics towards egalitarian rather than elitist structures.
I agree with this completely. Knee jerk protectionism has never worked out well for the working class -- for every job it saves it just makes goods more expensive. On the other hand, the global uplift of globalism, which is real, is such a long term project (a century or more) that there needs to be a recognition that in the short term blue collar workers in rich countries have to have some other support, be it increased welfare, free education, reduction of wealth inequality, or all three. It doesn't help that the managerial and financial class that pushed globalism got INSANELY rich while working class Americans got screwed.
In the long run, a global working class with purchasing power, rights codified within a system of laws, and self-organized as a international labor force, was the dream of the Internationale. Globalism will get us there, but at the temporary (albeit long term) expense of the workers in rich countries. Enough surplus wealth is created by globalism to tide them over -- we just have to burn the plutocratic ticks off the economic body with re-distributive taxes so we can remove them with regulatory tweezers. The folks who run the world economy are obviously not interested in doing that, so the Pikettys and Warrens have to create plans and policies for liberal parties all over the world to promulgate. Bernie's 74, so he thinks reflexively that globalism is bad. Globalism can actually be good, as long as the profits are used to make the losers of the process (the workers in rich countries) whole again, and as long as we bend our economics towards egalitarian rather than elitist structures.
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Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
Holy overwrought verbiage, Batman: "As the shining tweezers of economic righteousness descendeth therefore upon the burnt arachnid corpses of plutocracy etc. etc."
I like it.
Holy overwrought verbiage, Batman: "As the shining tweezers of economic righteousness descendeth therefore upon the burnt arachnid corpses of plutocracy etc. etc."
I like it.
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.
I drove past our precinct this morning and found no motivation to stop, get out, walk in, and fill out a ballot. Just couldn't do it, although there was no line. Maybe by 5:00 I'll feel more inclined to file a protest against Hillary (pointless) or Trump (by what alternative?) Maybe not.
I drove past our precinct this morning and found no motivation to stop, get out, walk in, and fill out a ballot. Just couldn't do it, although there was no line. Maybe by 5:00 I'll feel more inclined to file a protest against Hillary (pointless) or Trump (by what alternative?) Maybe not.
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