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Call me impatient, but...

Re: Call me impatient, but...

Update, as I finished writing this at about 2:08pm 10/29, there are 131 people viewing the DI board, 39 viewing the DIII board and 49 viewing Women's College Hockey.

As an additional point of comparison, using the most viewed current threads as of 2:29pm 10/29/09:

Top 2 for DIII:
“2009 Division III Hockey Commitments”, 98,676 views.
“D3 Players in the Pros”, 72,019 views.

Top 2 for DI:
“Official 2009 Minnesota offseason thread, 53,358 views
“UNH Wildcats - '09 Recruits and Beyond.. Raising "THE" Banner!”, 50,339 views.

Top 2 for the Women's College Hockey board:
“09-10 D1 Commitments”, 213,010 views.
“Minnesota Girls High School Hockey II", 79,936 views.

It would appear to me, that DIII followers are much more committed to their sport as a whole, versus their team or conference.

I certainly shouldn't be someone who knocks numbers being used to support D3 hockey, but I don't know if your numbers tell too much.

For starters, where the D3 message board has one thread for all scores and updates per day, the D1 board has a separate thread for each single game. In order to make an apples to apples comparison, you would have to add up the viewers for each of those individual game threads at any one moment and compare them to the D3 games thread at the same moment.

Where D3 and Women have one thread for all of the future year's commitments, the D1 board tends to bury that information within the school threads dealing with offseason discussions. Again, you would have to add up all these threads to see who they compare with the overall D3 and Women threads on the same subject.

Looking at total viewers of a the message board sections is much more accurate a measure than particular threads.

At times, us writers have asked for information on readership of our columns for all the stuff that gets put up on USCHO. Basically, the entire D3 section of USCHO is equal to one major D1 conference section. Important in the sense that D3 brings in as many eyeballs as a major D1 conference, and the subsequent advertising value thereof, but not nearly as many as all of D1. And it's still a lot of readers for D3 no matter how you slice it.

I do agree with the person who said one should always look at how to improve numbers as oppose to what to do with the current numbers. Any good business should be taking that approach.

And I do agree with your statement that D3 followers are committed to their sport as a whole as opposed to any particular conference or team -- in fact I think this is true for any college sport across the board. But, the rebuttal to that is the way the D3 board vs. the D1 board is set up (see my earlier comments), makes it more difficult for a D1 follower to try to follow the entire sport as opposed to just one conference or team.
 
Re: Call me impatient, but...

I certainly shouldn't be someone who knocks numbers being used to support D3 hockey, but I don't know if your numbers tell too much.

For starters, where the D3 message board has one thread for all scores and updates per day, the D1 board has a separate thread for each single game. In order to make an apples to apples comparison, you would have to add up the viewers for each of those individual game threads at any one moment and compare them to the D3 games thread at the same moment.

Where D3 and Women have one thread for all of the future year's commitments, the D1 board tends to bury that information within the school threads dealing with offseason discussions. Again, you would have to add up all these threads to see who they compare with the overall D3 and Women threads on the same subject.

Looking at total viewers of a the message board sections is much more accurate a measure than particular threads.

At times, us writers have asked for information on readership of our columns for all the stuff that gets put up on USCHO. Basically, the entire D3 section of USCHO is equal to one major D1 conference section. Important in the sense that D3 brings in as many eyeballs as a major D1 conference, and the subsequent advertising value thereof, but not nearly as many as all of D1. And it's still a lot of readers for D3 no matter how you slice it.

I do agree with the person who said one should always look at how to improve numbers as oppose to what to do with the current numbers. Any good business should be taking that approach.

And I do agree with your statement that D3 followers are committed to their sport as a whole as opposed to any particular conference or team -- in fact I think this is true for any college sport across the board. But, the rebuttal to that is the way the D3 board vs. the D1 board is set up (see my earlier comments), makes it more difficult for a D1 follower to try to follow the entire sport as opposed to just one conference or team.

Cool, so D3 fans have "got it together" and the D1 status seekers are scattered all over. Sounds like a great pitch for some target/niche marketing.

As for the numbers, the single thread views are inverse of the forum viewers for the reason you stated - the D1 forum is fragmented versus the D3 being comprehensive. The volume of D1 viewers support their claim to greater resources, however, the commitment to the sport of the D3 fans increase their value to the target/niche marketers over the D1 status seekers and IMO, offer greater potential for ADDED revenue.
 
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Re: Call me impatient, but...

The volume of D1 viewers support their claim to greater resources, however, the commitment to the sport of the D3 fans increase their value to the target/niche marketers over the D1 status seekers and IMO, offer greater potential for ADDED revenue.

Can't argue with that!
 
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