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Business, Economics & Tax Policy 5.0: Can a blind nut find a squirrel?

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Andy slavitt just tweeted that McConnell now has support from all but corker

Not surprising. In the end Democrats having to rely on the Susan Collins, and McCain's of the world was not going to work. The bottom line is there really no different than the rest of them.
 
Not surprising. In the end Democrats having to rely on the Susan Collins, and McCain's of the world was not going to work. The bottom line is there really no different than the rest of them.

Wonder how they flipped fleck
 
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Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 5.0: Can a blind nut find a squirrel?

Yeah I edited my post to put "study" in quotes and that doesn't even do justice to it. It's basically just an article saying "hey guyz just take my word for it, I got paid money to write this!". Also nice gif :D

The young lady is applying standard economics of a price floor to wages. What she wrote is directly inline with economic principles, only she took everything to the Nth degree. It lacks nuance of how businesses respond when the minimum wage change is $0.50/hr, $1.00/hr, and so on. Making a jump of almost $7/hr will have severe consequences. Restaurants and bars with wait staffs will likely close first, or change their models (seat yourself/call out your number to pick up the food, etc.).

The Whiskey Junction in Minneapolis just posted an announcement today that it's planning its close because Minneapolis passed its $15/hr minimum wage law. They said that they can't afford it and to keep their current business model in place.
 
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Today is 9/11 for tax policy and Pearl Harbor for democratic institutions. We cannot let this happen.

we let it happen when we let Trump into the whitehouse.
 
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we let it happen when we let Trump into the whitehouse.

We didn't "let" sh-t. This is the fault of those who voted for him and the other GOP criminals.
 
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we let it happen when we let Trump into the whitehouse.

Yep. Despite Flake, Collins, and Corker being very anti-Trump. And McCain, Flake, and Corker having their Senate careers wind down. None of that is enough to stop this bill.
 
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I can't say I disagree with this.

America is behaving like a doomed and desperate convicted felon, holed up smoking as much crack as possible before we have to report to jail. Tons of post-recession free money from central banks, eight years of steadily rising asset prices, the eerie absence of volatility, and the post-election conviction that Donald Trump’s band of goons would—if nothing else—cut taxes on corporations have all combined to fuel a manic investment wave that have made stocks and bonds and real estate and every other asset everywhere expensive as hell. Bitcoin is a classic bubble. Housing prices are insane. And Republicans, who have proven too incompetent to accomplish almost anything, look like they will be able to successfully pass a tax bill that funnels more money to corporations and their investors, who decidedly do not need it. But who will be happy to take it, even if they know that exploding the deficit to give already rich people more money, during a time of essentially full employment, is the opposite of long-term financial probity. They also know that our president is a dumb, incompetent loon. (Wall Street, though it may be evil, benefits by seeing political situations with a ruthless clarity.) It is this situation of clear short term opportunity combined with infinite geopolitical and economic dark clouds looming that has fueled our manic economic boom. Get it while the getting is good, for tomorrow you may be dead!

When the price of everything is high, and you are still taking desperate measures to fuel those prices higher, the world is a very risky place. Our leaders are doing everything they can to make inequality worse, which is the social equivalent of throwing propane canisters into your fireplace because you felt a chill. The cushion that normally exists has grown very thin. Everything is priced as if if everything will go perfectly; when it doesn’t, there is nowhere to go but down. Even as investors have grown rich, they have grown increasingly on edge. Everyone is nervous as hell. They know that these bull markets don’t last forever. Yet we’re not quite in bubble territory, and since everything is expensive, you just have to close your eyes and buy something.

So prices climb, and so does risk. The central banks, which shot their wads after the Great Recession, have few means to help now if something goes catastrophically wrong. Here we are: all nervous, greedy, and on edge, collectively wondering what the tipping point will be.
 
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I could not agree more with this. We're in bizarro land right now.

Wait a minute.

You agree with that? You agree with that and you vote Republican?

BSABSVR? How can you?
 
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Wait a minute.

You agree with that? You agree with that and you vote Republican?

BSABSVR? How can you?
gunz

Which is funny because he said in another thread that we agree on the important issues :D

(and in all fairness I don't want to ban all guns but neither does any serious dem candidate for that matter)
 
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The young lady is applying standard economics of a price floor to wages. What she wrote is directly inline with economic principles, only she took everything to the Nth degree. It lacks nuance of how businesses respond when the minimum wage change is $0.50/hr, $1.00/hr, and so on. Making a jump of almost $7/hr will have severe consequences. Restaurants and bars with wait staffs will likely close first, or change their models (seat yourself/call out your number to pick up the food, etc.).

The Whiskey Junction in Minneapolis just posted an announcement today that it's planning its close because Minneapolis passed its $15/hr minimum wage law. They said that they can't afford it and to keep their current business model in place.
Berkeley literally just did a study on Seattle and found no real evidence of unemployment going up or hours being cut in any significant way. I could be wrong but I think their study is in line with previous ones on the matter as well (i.e. actual studies, not articles paid for by the Koch brothers).

And historically this hasn't happened either when women got paid more, 40 hr work weeks were implemented, unions asked for higher wages, etc.

And I can't say I'm all that familiar with Whiskey Junction but a lot of these places close, throw hissy fits, and blame the min wage when it's almost certainly not the only factor involved in their decision.
 
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Wait a minute.

You agree with that? You agree with that and you vote Republican?

BSABSVR? How can you?

"Oh, so you're saying Hillary is perfect in every possible way and would have put an end to cancer, American Idol, and texting while driving?"
 
Wait a minute.

You agree with that? You agree with that and you vote Republican?

BSABSVR? How can you?

Well I haven’t actually voted in over 10 years. I’ve become more disillusioned with the republicans as the years have gone on. I appreciate the position of you and ND Hockey, but I just don’t see the Democrats offering very much, especially long term. The results speak for themselves with the left states having huge financial problems.

Has anyone read The Mandibles?
 
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Well I haven’t actually voted in over 10 years. I’ve become more disillusioned with the republicans as the years have gone on. I appreciate the position of you and ND Hockey, but I just don’t see the Democrats offering very much, especially long term. The results speak for themselves with the left states having huge financial problems.

Has anyone read The Mandibles?

Most years I don't vote Democratic for the Democrat, I vote to stop the Republicans. There is much honor and value in fighting evil even if you're not particularly good.

The GOP has become an existential threat to the US. I would argue that Republicans should back their party and every single other person in the nation should oppose them with total resolve.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All of the looking the other way, and the excuses and the complicity w Trump was so the GOP could pass this bill today. This is the payoff.</p>— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) <a href="https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/936641550888693760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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The truth.
 
Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 5.0: Can a blind nut find a squirrel?

Anyone else seen the interviews with Treasury Secretary Mnuchin where he states that there are 100's of people in the Tax Dept. running scenarios to prove this bill was paid for by economic growth?

He lied.
 
Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 5.0: Can a blind nut find a squirrel?

Anyone else seen the interviews with Treasury Secretary Mnuchin where he states that there are 100's of people in the Tax Dept. running scenarios to prove this bill was paid for by economic growth?

He lied.
I'm sure they're trying to find someone to post some "study" from an "economist" that is paid to find the outcome they want.
 
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