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Business, Economics, and Taxes: Capitalism. Yay? >=(

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LynahFan said:
Just musing on the math related to 20,000 containers. To unload the ship without the automated, high-speed overhead gantry cranes and no rail cars to load them onto - figure you could maybe get one container off every 15 minutes? That's nearly 7 months to unload.... Yikes.
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they don't have to unload everything, but it seems like moving it will involve some combination of reducing the weight by off loading some combination of fuel/ballast water/containers, digging/dredging around the bow and stern, plus doing the move at high tide.
 
LynahFan said:
Just musing on the math related to 20,000 containers. To unload the ship without the automated, high-speed overhead gantry cranes and no rail cars to load them onto - figure you could maybe get one container off every 15 minutes? That's nearly 7 months to unload.... Yikes.
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I think 15 is high. I'm guessing with a couple of choppers you could get that down to 10 minutes, maybe less. Especially if you don't give a fuck about the containers or their contents. Plus like bass said, you only need some off. We're still talking 2-6 weeks after equipment arrives.
 
Just saw a tweet from cnn saying they need to excavate 20,000 cubic meters of sand. Quick math says 90x90x90.

Dats a big hole.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
I think 15 is high. I'm guessing with a couple of choppers you could get that down to 10 minutes, maybe less. Especially if you don't give a fuck about the containers or their contents. Plus like bass said, you only need some off. We're still talking 2-6 weeks after equipment arrives.
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Next problem with that theory:

Even the Mi-26 "the largest and most powerful helicopter to have gone into serial production" (wiki) only has a useful load of 44,000 lbs. (Our best, the CH-53E, is just 29,000 lb)

Max gross weight of a standard 40-ft shipping container is 67,200 lb. Even a 20-ft container can go up to 53,000 lbs. So, would there be enough accessible, lightly-loaded containers in the right locations on the ship that you can offload enough using helicopters? Or would we have to be talking terrestrial/marine cranes instead?
 
LynahFan said:
Next problem with that theory:

Even the Mi-26 "the largest and most powerful helicopter to have gone into serial production" (wiki) only has a useful load of 44,000 lbs. (Our best, the CH-53E, is just 29,000 lb)

Max gross weight of a standard 40-ft shipping container is 67,200 lb. Even a 20-ft container can go up to 53,000 lbs. So, would there be enough accessible, lightly-loaded containers in the right locations on the ship that you can offload enough using helicopters? Or would we have to be talking terrestrial/marine cranes instead?
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Well, we're boned.
 
Question for those of us who haven't really been following this:

How the hell did the ship get so sideways in the first place?
 
rufus said:
Question for those of us who haven't really been following this:

How the hell did the ship get so sideways in the first place?
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Current reports are that it lost power, including navigation, and extremely strong winds blew it off course. Half a billion pounds of first law carnage.
 
https://twitter.com/MarineTraffic/status/1375353647937290245

Holy shit. They were only at Gibraltar and it's going to cost 3+ wks.

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Original article:
https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/2021/03/26/suez-canal-satellite-clues-on-a-stricken-cargo-ship/
 
Remember the "rubber duck spill" from 1992 that went all over the world?

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That was the Ever Laurel, the Ever Given's sister ship.
 
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