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Business, Economic, and Tax Policy 9: No, No, No, We Compost The Rich

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As long as you had even a moderately diversified portfolio during the dot com burst in the early 2000s, even with the great recession in 2008, if you left it alone for the last 20 years you'd be way, way ahead.

For all the carnage this last month, all that's happened is it's basically taken us back to pre-Trump levels in 2016. You've still got the 8 years of gains under Obama.

I got stuck though. I was young so I had my investments in maximum growth funds. Then I left my job just before the bubble burst. It was fine at that point - I could leave my money invested but it wouldn't be matched anymore. I had doubled my own money plus I had the investiture from my employer. I was sitting pretty. Then the bubble burst. Then my employer changed the rules and cashed me out. I had lost every dime the company matched and another 15% to boot. Plus my new job was now being done in Bangalore and I didn't feel like following it so I needed the cash. So I wasn't in the market in 2008 when that crash happened. I have been in since 2016 with a meager amount and have seen every penny I made disappear again. Ever have deja vu?
 
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The way it was explained to me was that funds like my 401k will continue to buy as the price tanks so that when it starts to rise you get your value back plus the gains on the new lower priced buys.
I was/am still young enough, I have time on my side. Or so I hope.
 
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I was/am still young enough, I have time on my side. Or so I hope.

You're fine. I'm 57 and I'm fine (probably). The people who are f-cked are in their mid-60s. This timing is going to hurt them badly unless they are nearly entirely in bonds. And even if they are, who the f-ck knows?
 
You're fine. I'm 57 and I'm fine (probably). The people who are f-cked are in their mid-60s. This timing is going to hurt them badly unless they are nearly entirely in bonds. And even if they are, who the f-ck knows?

Bonds will have a tough time growing. Rates are now razor thin.
 
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Talk on CNBC is now focusing on Boeing, and how they're "too big to fail."

I... don't quite agree. Their catastrophic choices in the months and years prior to their stock fall this week are what need to be punished.
 
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You're fine. I'm 57 and I'm fine (probably). The people who are f-cked are in their mid-60s. This timing is going to hurt them badly unless they are nearly entirely in bonds. And even if they are, who the f-ck knows?

But they aren't. Unless they pay out ALL of their retirement now. It's people in their 70s who are running low on retirement funds.
 
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But they aren't. Unless they pay out ALL of their retirement now. It's people in their 70s who are running low on retirement funds.

someone in their 70s shouldn't have much of their portfolio in stocks.
 
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just made 50% gains on Uber $19 puts with 4/3 expiration that I bought yesterday

I'm not buying enough options contracts to make much money, but people that are heavy into options trading are getting rich in this market. I'm seeing people turning $5,000 into $200,000 over a period of weeks. And they're not stopping there -- they're basically rolling everything over after each trade and often doubling (or more) their money. It just takes one quick change in the market to wipe everything out though.
 
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So, do we celebrate every time it breaks 20k during this roller coaster, or how does that work?

<img src=https://www.imgur.com/GiO5VA3.gif>
 
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Aaaaaaaaaand circuit breaker tripped around that news.
 
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Holy ****. Two-month yields briefly went negative today. Everything 3-mo and shorter are essentially at 0%. 1-yr at 0.17%.

7-, 10-, and 30-yr bonds are trading higher today.
 
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