BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

[J.D.]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articl...out-oft-injured-goaltender-push-nhl-attention

In line with what I thought...

 

[Rogie21]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Nice. http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2015/05/01_between_the_lines_season.php

 

[Mike799]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

I think it's unbelievable that the staff isn't bringing in a scholarship goalie this year. With or without Eichel, the team should be frozen four caliber again next year and they're putting their stock in a kid that hasn't played in over a year...

 

[J.D.]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Guys miss a season for surgery or whatever all the time. Isn't lacouvee a scholarship goalie too? Without eichel/a couple potential flight risks, not sure about frozen four caliber but I don't see an issue with what they are doing with goaltenders.

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

I think it's unbelievable that the staff isn't bringing in a scholarship goalie this year. With or without Eichel, the team should be frozen four caliber again next year and they're putting their stock in a kid that hasn't played in over a year...

Sean

 

[CollegeHockeyRinkReport]

I think it's unbelievable that the staff isn't bringing in a scholarship goalie this year. With or without Eichel, the team should be frozen four caliber again next year and they're putting their stock in a kid that hasn't played in over a year...

I think Quinn, Greeley and O'Connell have more than proven they are trustworthy on recruiting...

 

[Hokydad]

I think Quinn, Greeley and O'Connell have more than proven they are trustworthy on recruiting...

Interesting point
Rochele, DO, Gryz and many others were Parkers recruits. Wasn't this really his team

 

[Parker Ranger]

Interesting point
Rochele, DO, Gryz and many others were Parkers recruits. Wasn't this really his team

An interesting point. But didn't Quinn recruit most of the other freshmen not named Eichel? Eichel was biggest reason for success this year, replacing stiffs from last year (Parker's recruits) with talented freshmen (DQ's guys) was second.

 

[defkit]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Interesting point
Rochele, DO, Gryz and many others were Parkers recruits. Wasn't this really his team

I think the pipeline is as strong as I can ever remember it being. Not sure how many of the 2015/16 guys are Major Junior flight risks (hopefully none of the 2015s at this point), but I love the mix of size, skill, and scoring ability we have coming in at forward. And we don't need much on d, but McAvoy certainly looks like he is a player.

 

[Jofa]

An interesting point. But didn't Quinn recruit most of the other freshmen not named Eichel? Eichel was biggest reason for success this year, replacing stiffs from last year (Parker's recruits) with talented freshmen (DQ's guys) was second.

For the most part Parkers issue wasn't recruiting but coaching them and keeping them in line . That's where he failed in the last 15 years except for the year when the veteran presence was so solid he couldn't screw it up. This was Quinn's success

 

[Mike799]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Guys miss a season for surgery or whatever all the time. Isn't lacouvee a scholarship goalie too? Without eichel/a couple potential flight risks, not sure about frozen four caliber but I don't see an issue with what they are doing with goaltenders.

You're making my point about them not landing top flight goalies by saying they spent a scholarship on Lacouvee. I'm also concerned about the progress of recent BU goalies during their careers. From 2008-Present, talk to me about the progress of Bennett, Gillespie, Millan, Rollheiser and O'Connor during their careers. I understand that it's a different staff now, but bringing in an unknown in LaCouvee combined with the lack of improvement of OC this year, makes me wonder if there's much expertise and value placed on the position by the current staff.

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

I think the pipeline is as strong as I can ever remember it being. Not sure how many of the 2015/16 guys are Major Junior flight risks (hopefully none of the 2015s at this point), but I love the mix of size, skill, and scoring ability we have coming in at forward. And we don't need much on d, but McAvoy certainly looks like he is a player.

great pipeline+
point was I would say Eichel, Gryz, DO and many others were there 100% because of Parker, nothing to do with current coaching staff. None of the recruits the current guys brought in had much to do with success. Don't say BF, he was ok because of who he played with
other F lines outside top 5/6, all Parker guys were avg and irrelevant.

without parkers 4/5 guys, this team was Merrimack again

 

[J.D.]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Rogie was pretty excited about landing lacouvee though!

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

great pipeline+
point was I would say Eichel, Gryz, DO and many others were there 100% because of Parker, nothing to do with current coaching staff. None of the recruits the current guys brought in had much to do with success. Don't say BF, he was ok because of who he played with
other F lines outside top 5/6, all Parker guys were avg and irrelevant.

without parkers 4/5 guys, this team was Merrimack again

I seem to recall that when Quinn left there were many here who posted that BU was losing their top recruiter and Coach Parker was no longer able to get the top recruits to come to BU. Then over the past several years I read again and again that Coach Parker was no longer bringing in top players. Now after a great season it has nothing to do with Coach Quinn, it's all because of Coach Parker's recruits.

Sean

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

I seem to recall that when Quinn left there were many here who posted that BU was losing their top recruiter and Coach Parker was no longer able to get the top recruits to come to BU. Then over the past several years I read again and again that Coach Parker was no longer bringing in top players. Now after a great season it has nothing to do with Coach Quinn, it's all because of Coach Parker's recruits.

Sean

do you not grasp the fact that the top impact players, without exception were in fact there because Parker brought them in?


Eichel, Gryz, DO, Rodrig, et all were there because Parker recruited them. not one had anything to do with current staff. team would have been 500 at best without. they committed to Parker, end of story. None had any clue Quinn would end up there, several prob never even heard of him as he was off in minor pros

If Eichel not there, many would be blasting Quinn this year. Give credit where credit is due.

 

[DLG]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Just not reality based but shows dislike of current staff
Most freshmen from last year were already recruited when they took over
Yet they found Diffley, Hickey and BF which made a gigantic difference
Their biggest year to year improvement was on defense
Also Olsson and AJ Greer will be very valuable pieces going forward and the
pipeline is stacked for the first two years where all the recruits are from this staff

 

[Jofa]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Nice. http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2015/05/01_between_the_lines_season.php

No one will be surprised that I am saying this but honestly what choice did O'Connor have but to face the heat for his hideous and legendary flub. Running away from it would not have helped his legacy or professional prospects. He did what he needed to do it wasnt a great act of courage or character it was his only option.

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Just not reality based but shows dislike of current staff
Most freshmen from last year were already recruited when they took over
Yet they found Diffley, Hickey and BF which made a gigantic difference
Their biggest year to year improvement was on defense
Also Olsson and AJ Greer will be very valuable pieces going forward and the
pipeline is stacked for the first two years where all the recruits are from this staff

what isn't reality? 90% of the players who impacted the team this season, Eichel more so than any were 100% Parker recruits. You can call it "not reality" but it is a fact, not debatable

pipeline is great going forward but that has 100% nothing to do with this team

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Eichel 26
Rodrigues 21
O'Regan 23
Gryz 10
Oksanen 25
Hohmann 8

Next guy in scoring after these 6 was Fotunato who had 1 goal, and even he fell into their lap late after issues at Harvard in admissions.

All 100% Parker recruits 116 of the 158 goals.
After them, not one guy had dbl digits, 2 had 8, 1 had 6 rest 1-4. Wow

12 out of 14 goals in NCAA were from the "Parker" guys

18 of 20 of the goals in hockey east playoffs were from the 6 "Parker" guys

great pipeline but zero to do with last year, zero

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

You're making my point about them not landing top flight goalies by saying they spent a scholarship on Lacouvee. I'm also concerned about the progress of recent BU goalies during their careers. From 2008-Present, talk to me about the progress of Bennett, Gillespie, Millan, Rollheiser and O'Connor during their careers. I understand that it's a different staff now, but bringing in an unknown in LaCouvee combined with the lack of improvement of OC this year, makes me wonder if there's much expertise and value placed on the position by the current staff.

In past seasons I've also questioned the lack of improvement of some BU goalies, but to claim a lack of improvement by O'Connor this season over his first two is wrong. While almost doubling his playing time as a Terrier this season (seventh most minutes played all-time by a BU goalie in a season) he noticeably improved his GAA and save percentage. For BU goalies who played 14 or more games in a season he is tied for second all-time in wins with 25 (which is what we ultimately want as fans); his save percentage is third best; his GAA is eighth best; his number of saves is seventh best. Among the top ten single seasons for minutes played O'Connor is third in goals allowed; third in GAA; sixth in saves; second in save percentage; second in wins; second in fewest loses; and second in winning percentage.

Also to claim no improvement by Millan is misleading as he had such an outstanding freshman season. Still is junior and senior seasons were excellent and statistically his save percentage was about the same as for his freshman season while facing about 350 more shots both seasons.

As for LaCouvee, with this limited playing time it is hard to compare him to Maguire and O'Connor as freshmen, but if you do his worst game was better than several of Maguire's, as well as O'Connor's worst game. I also think he is a much better goalie than some of the other goalies to play at BU over the past decade.

Sean