BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

[mookie1995]

Incorrect. If O'Connor pulled BU down 3-0 and LaCouvee comes in and BU ties it 3-3 then loses 4-3 it is a loss for LaCouvee.

It is who gives up the gwg

At UHN bu lost 5-4

Oc gave up first 4. Lacouvee gave up the 5th but game never tied.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Goalie at BU/BC just cant lose it for them. BC won many with avg at best goal tending, always played well when it mattered but not the focus. PC was the exception

With the pipeline BU has in place, if they had a Gillies type in net, they might never give up a goal. they need a Muse type, Gillies types would never go there as they know they cant be the difference. Same reason why Cannata went to MC

Because Jon Gillies-level goalies are constantly showing up on campuses each year.

 

[Hokydad]

Because Jon Gillies-level goalies are constantly showing up on campuses each year.

when they do come along they play at a program where they can make the difference. go to bc and win, so what, you were supposed to. lose, its your fault

 

[Agganis]

if he came in relief, they must have been either tied or ahead for him to get the loss.

Wrong.

Incorrect. If O'Connor pulled BU down 3-0 and LaCouvee comes in and BU ties it 3-3 then loses 4-3 it is a loss for LaCouvee.

Wrong.

It is who gives up the gwg

At UHN bu lost 5-4

Oc gave up first 4. Lacouvee gave up the 5th but game never tied.

Correct.

LaCouvee never was in the game vs UNH or NU with a lead or with it tied, but was credited with losses in both. Look at the box score if you need proof.

 

[The Zlax45]

Wrong.



Wrong.



Correct.

LaCouvee never was in the game vs UNH or NU with a lead or with it tied, but was credited with losses in both. Look at the box score if you need proof.

Shows you that someone who thinks they are an expert in hockey and rubs the SBNation blog, doesn't even know the rules on who gets a win! Classic!

 

[Hokydad]

Shows you that someone who thinks they are an expert in hockey and rubs the SBNation blog, doesn't even know the rules on who gets a win! Classic!

what are you talking about? what he said was 100% accurate and agannis was the one who was wrong in saying that "IF" was wrong

collegehockey said, he would in fact be credited with the loss "IF" these two things happened. He didnt say they did, said IF.

If they did, he would get the loss. he gave a scenario where he eould be credited with the lPOss, you do get the concept of an example dont you? He was in fact not wrong.

 

[Hokydad]

Shows you that someone who thinks they are an expert in hockey and rubs the SBNation blog, doesn't even know the rules on who gets a win! Classic!

what are you talking about? what he said was 100% accurate and agannis was the one who was wrong.

collegehockey ssid, he would in fact be credited with the loss "IF" these two things happened. He didnt say they did, said IF.

If they did, he would get the loss. he gave 2 different scenarios. He was in fact not wrong.

 

[Sean Pickett]

what are you talking about? what he said was 100% accurate and agannis was the one who was wrong.

collegehockey ssid, he would in fact be credited with the loss "IF" these two things happened. He didnt say they did, said IF.

If they did, he would get the loss. he gave 2 different scenarios. He was in fact not wrong.

1. You were wrong.

2. Collegehockeyreporter implied that BU needed to tie up the game before LaCouvee got the loss and that is wrong. All he needed to say was all LaCouvee needed to do was give up the GWG to be credited with the loss.

I have seen a goalie play 19 seconds and give up a goal on the only shot he faced to put his team 2 goals down. The starting goal was put back in after the goals and his team was able to get one back, so the goal he gave up ended up being the GWG, even though the other goalie gave up 4 goals in the game. Similar to the 2 games LaCouvee was put in as relief for O'Connor and he gave up a single goal in each game while BU came up to lose by that single goal. LaCouvee played well in relief of O'Connor in those 2 games, but he was credited with the losses while O'Connor was let off the hook.

J.D. mentioned he would like some supermetrics for saves and I agree save percentage can be misleading. I have never complied any, but I believe a goalie's job is to give his team a chance to win and for decades I have used when a goal is scored to rate goalies (i.e., first goal, game tying goal, go ahead goal). Using that metric O'Connor had a bad NCAA tournament as all 8 goals in three of the games were one of those 3 types. Only in the UND game did he not give up one of those goals.

Sean

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

tell that to the nhl gm's, none of who are calling the backup. I am sure alKm of them and Quinn were wrong

i could care less what you think colOkegehockey ;implied". He said "if". and if that scenario happened he was correct. he didnt use specifics, said if this happened. and if ut did, he was correct.

how is the single scenario he spelled out incorrect? it isnt

tell us the "9 second" game you claimed to have watched. i wont hold my breath waiting

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

tell that to the nhl gm's, none of who are calling the backup. I am sure alKm of them and Quinn were wrong

I never said they were wrong, just that other metrics besides save percentage could be used.

i could care less what you think colOkegehockey ;implied". He said "if". and if that scenario happened he was correct. he didnt use specifics, said if this happened. and if ut did, he was correct.

I think you meant "couldn't care less," and it seems you do care, as you have commented.

how is the single scenario he spelled out incorrect? it isnt

It also didn't happen.

tell us the "9 second" game you claimed to have watched. i wont hold my breath waiting

Thanks for having me look it up, it appears I got my facts wrong: It was only a 5-3 game, UML was always in the game and the losing goalie played 19 seconds:
UMass Lowell vs BU at Walter Brown Arena 11 Feb 2000
With the game tied 2-2 at the start of the third period Chris Heron scored the go ahead goal 54 seconds into the period against UML goalie Cam McCormick. UML Head Coach Tim Whitehead pulled McCormack and replace him with backup goalie Dan Weinrieb. Just 19 seconds later Heron scored again on the only shot Weinrieb faced to make it a 4-2 game. Whitehead pulled Weinrieb and put McCormack back in, UML scored their third goal 1:50 later to make it 4-3, but were unable to tie the game and BU won 5-3 with Tommi Degerman scoring a late PP goal. Weinrieb was not only credited with the loss, but for the game had a 0.000 save percentage and 189.47 GAA.

Sean

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

thats why they call it an "if" or a scenario doogie

If this happened means exactly that. if it happens

Here you go Mr Clinton....

conjunction



1Introducing a conditional clause.


1.1On the condition or supposition that; in the event that:
‘if you have a complaint, write to the director’

‘if you like, I’ll put in a word for you’\

in a possible or imagined situation

a.

used for introducing a situation that may happen or may be real, especially when talking about its results
If we miss the last bus, we’ll have to walk home.

If anyone has found a bunch of keys, would they please leave them on my desk.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

What?

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

I've uploaded 2014-15 individual game stats for O'Connor and LaCouvee for anyone who is interested. I have 4 sheets, sorted by save percentage, GAA, saves and goals. The 2 games O'Connor was pulled are are the worst for save percentage and GAA and the NU game tied for most goals given up. LaCouvee has the other 3 bottom 5 spots for save percentage and 3 of the bottom 6 for GAA and goals allowed. LaCouvee also had some solid outings as well, but it remains to be seen how good me may be with more playing time. For comparison I've also uploaded individual game stats for O'Connor, Maguire and LaCouvee for 2012-15. 2012-13 games are black, 2013-14 games are blue and 2014-15 games are red.

Sean

 

[DaveStPaul]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Weinrieb was not only credited with the loss, but for the game had a 0.000 save percentage and 189.47 GAA.

 

[DaveStPaul]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

It's like Kenmore in the 80s around here sometimes. Loud, dirty; rats and bums; end-of-the-world ranters. It's gotten me hungry for a slice at Captain Nemo's.

 

[mookie1995]

It's like Kenmore in the 80s around here sometimes. Loud, dirty; rats and bums; end-of-the-world ranters. It's gotten me hungry for a slice at Captain Nemo's.

Mookie preferred the diner Charlie's other korner from nemo's

 

[DaveStPaul]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Mookie preferred the diner Charlie's other korner from nemo's

Right, another classy joint! Deli Haus, too.

Congrats, btw, to the BU women's golf team. Just won their 1st Patriot League championship. (Rookie of the Year is from Hong Kong, mook. Never played with her, tho'.)

 

[mookie1995]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Right, another classy joint! Deli Haus, too.

Congrats, btw, to the BU women's golf team. Just won their 1st Patriot League championship. (Rookie of the Year is from Hong Kong, mook. Never played with her, tho'.)

cornwalls moved across kenmore and tried to recreate the atmosphere. couldn't do though.... stopped there last month when another smg '90 was in town to recruit and we were talking to the bartender. shame what happened to put up that silly hotel.

 

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

It's like Kenmore in the 80s around here sometimes. Loud, dirty; rats and bums.

Doesn't sound like Kenmore Sq had changed much.

 

[mookie1995]

Doesn't sound like Kenmore Sq had changed much.

No more Mr Butch