BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

[brassbonanza]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

FWIW, BU had some concerns about Starrett since early in the season. In addition to playing for SSK this season, he worked regularly with Mike Geragosian, who has his own goalie school. It appears that BU had to decided between Maguire and Starrett as carrying three scholarship goalies is unlikely. Good luck to him in Colorado Springs and on that beautiful campus.

I suppose it's good for both sides. If I had to choose between the two, based on the little info on Starrett I've seen, I'd choose Maguire. He's got some big game experience under his belt from 12-13, specifically the HE championship that he performed well in. I didn't realize he was able to put up a .919 in 13-14 with the subpar at best defensive corps in front of him. Certainly right now our D corps look to be a big strong point of our squad next season, so if he can put up a .919 with MacGregor, Ronan, and TJ Ryan in front of him, I'd like to see what he can do with Grzelcyk, MacLeod, Hickey, McAvoy, et al in front of him.

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

I suppose it's good for both sides. If I had to choose between the two, based on the little info on Starrett I've seen, I'd choose Maguire. He's got some big game experience under his belt from 12-13, specifically the HE championship that he performed well in. I didn't realize he was able to put up a .919 in 13-14 with the subpar at best defensive corps in front of him. Certainly right now our D corps look to be a big strong point of our squad next season, so if he can put up a .919 with MacGregor, Ronan, and TJ Ryan in front of him, I'd like to see what he can do with Grzelcyk, MacLeod, Hickey, McAvoy, et al in front of him.

what does save pct have to do with d corp? Maybe wins or goals against, but what does save pct have to do with it?

lost me there

 

[Agganis]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

what does save pct have to do with d corp? Maybe wins or goals against, but what does save pct have to do with it?

lost me there

Boyle, Kevin.

 

[J.D.]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Was actually wondering the other day if anyone out there is on to a metric beyond save percentage. One that could account for the quality of the shot/opportunity. Seems almost impossible to do this but was still curious. wouldn't put anything past the nerds out there.

 

[kbz]

I suppose it's good for both sides. If I had to choose between the two, based on the little info on Starrett I've seen, I'd choose Maguire. He's got some big game experience under his belt from 12-13, specifically the HE championship that he performed well in. I didn't realize he was able to put up a .919 in 13-14 with the subpar at best defensive corps in front of him. Certainly right now our D corps look to be a big strong point of our squad next season, so if he can put up a .919 with MacGregor, Ronan, and TJ Ryan in front of him, I'd like to see what he can do with Grzelcyk, MacLeod, Hickey, McAvoy, et al in front of him.

Yes people seem to be forgetting that Macguire was just as good as O'Connor his first two years.

 

[BU Fan 84]

Yes people seem to be forgetting that Macguire was just as good as O'Connor his first two years.

My issue isn't that Maguire wasn't pretty good before, I'm more concerned with the fact that he had surgery and hasn't played in a year. Who knows how he's going to be when he comes back? Somebody (Rogie? somebody else?) said he had been at practice this semester so I imagine the coaches have seen what he can do and don't seem to be concerned.

 

[BU Fan 84]

Since we are being completely honest, the player was looking to go to an ivy or air force well before the start of the season. BU was a safety school in the families and players eyes. Education and hockey in that order. If he could have gotten into either earlier he would have. Had been working with a private ivy sat tutor for the past year+ with one goal, not to go to BU. Is that a fact, yes it is. If he had wanted to, he would be there. As soon as he hit the magic number on sat test, bye.... Not saying NU isn't better hockey as it is, but some people get the fact that 99% wont play nhl and if you are good, especially a goalie it does not matter where you play.

He certainly didn't seem to be excited to be going to Air Force rather than BU.

 

[BU Fan 84]

what does save pct have to do with d corp? Maybe wins or goals against, but what does save pct have to do with it?

lost me there

Bad defensemen -> better shots and scoring opportunities -> lower save percentage. Not that hard to figure out.

 

[Rogie21]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Since we are being completely honest, the player was looking to go to an ivy or air force well before the start of the season. BU was a safety school in the families and players eyes. Education and hockey in that order. If he could have gotten into either earlier he would have. Had been working with a private ivy sat tutor for the past year+ with one goal, not to go to BU. Is that a fact, yes it is. If he had wanted to, he would be there. As soon as he hit the magic number on sat test, bye.... Not saying NU isn't better hockey as it is, but some people get the fact that 99% wont play nhl and if you are good, especially a goalie it does not matter where you play.

Is there an emoticon that indicates "truthiness"?

 

[Bomber]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Colin Wilson is on fire.

 

[SomeGuy]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

what does save pct have to do with d corp? Maybe wins or goals against, but what does save pct have to do with it?

lost me there

When you keep opposing players to the outside, and clear players from in-front of the net, it help the goalie see the puck.

a good D core leads to better goalie numbers. not something new, my friend.

 

[Terrance]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

what does save pct have to do with d corp?

???? Really?

Compare a goalie's save % 5 on 5 to his save % on penalty shots. Defense is kind of important to limiting grade A opportunities (opportunities that have a higher chance of going in regardless of the goalie).

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

???? Really?

Compare a goalie's save % 5 on 5 to his save % on penalty shots. Defense is kind of important to limiting grade A opportunities (opportunities that have a higher chance of going in regardless of the goalie).

opinions vary

d corp this year gave up multiple breakaways and odd man rushes. big time mistake prone. loaded up front

penalty shots? most might get 1 or 2 a year? that's a barometer? really?

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

When you keep opposing players to the outside, and clear players from in-front of the net, it help the goalie see the puck.

a good D core leads to better goalie numbers. not something new, my friend.

and the corp this year didn't do that that great. two years from now you will have a heck of a corp, this year, solid+ on pp and offense, vry avg on D side of puck

 

[Harry Cleverly]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Yes people seem to be forgetting that Macguire was just as good as O'Connor his first two years.

I always thought that Maguire was the better of the two during O'Connor's first two years, especially backstopping an average BU team to the Hockey East final as a freshman. Maguire gave up a lot fewer rebounds those two season.

O'Connor made great strides this past season, a few NCAA gaffe's aside. He has always been a solid stop-stopper and gave away few rebounds. Still had some deficiences handling the puck with his stick, something else that Maguire did better.

If Maguire is healthy, I have no problem with him being the goalie.

Still not sold on LaCouvee. He had as many losses (4) as O'Connor did, playing only about 15% of the time. I thought LaCouvee looked better when he came on in relief, like in the exhibith against the US World Juniors.

Goaltending has not been a weakness. But it needs to be a strength if you are going to win it all. Just ask Providence.

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

I always thought that Maguire was the better of the two during O'Connor's first two years, especially backstopping an average BU team to the Hockey East final as a freshman. Maguire gave up a lot fewer rebounds those two season.

O'Connor made great strides this past season, a few NCAA gaffe's aside. He has always been a solid stop-stopper and gave away few rebounds. Still had some deficiences handling the puck with his stick, something else that Maguire did better.

If Maguire is healthy, I have no problem with him being the goalie.

Still not sold on LaCouvee. He had as many losses (4) as O'Connor did, playing only about 15% of the time. I thought LaCouvee looked better when he came on in relief, like in the exhibith against the US World Juniors.

Goaltending has not been a weakness. But it needs to be a strength if you are going to win it all. Just ask Providence.

Goalie at BU/BC just cant lose it for them. BC won many with avg at best goal tending, always played well when it mattered but not the focus. PC was the exception

With the pipeline BU has in place, if they had a Gillies type in net, they might never give up a goal. they need a Muse type, Gillies types would never go there as they know they cant be the difference. Same reason why Cannata went to MC

 

[Agganis]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

I always thought that Maguire was the better of the two during O'Connor's first two years, especially backstopping an average BU team to the Hockey East final as a freshman. Maguire gave up a lot fewer rebounds those two season.

O'Connor made great strides this past season, a few NCAA gaffe's aside. He has always been a solid stop-stopper and gave away few rebounds. Still had some deficiences handling the puck with his stick, something else that Maguire did better.

If Maguire is healthy, I have no problem with him being the goalie.

Still not sold on LaCouvee. He had as many losses (4) as O'Connor did, playing only about 15% of the time. I thought LaCouvee looked better when he came on in relief, like in the exhibith against the US World Juniors.

Goaltending has not been a weakness. But it needs to be a strength if you are going to win it all. Just ask Providence.

2 of LaCouvee's credited losses were actually in relief after O'Connor got pulled, so with Matt as a started BU lost 6 times, and with Connor starting BU lost twice.

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

2 of LaCouvee's credited losses were actually in relief after O'Connor got pulled, so with Matt as a started BU lost 6 times, and with Connor starting BU lost twice.

if he came in relief, they must have been either tied or ahead for him to get the loss.

 

[CollegeHockeyRinkReport]

if he came in relief, they must have been either tied or ahead for him to get the loss.

Incorrect. If O'Connor pulled BU down 3-0 and LaCouvee comes in and BU ties it 3-3 then loses 4-3 it is a loss for LaCouvee.

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BU season thread 4 - 2014-15 // destiny's children

Incorrect. If O'Connor pulled BU down 3-0 and LaCouvee comes in and BU ties it 3-3 then loses 4-3 it is a loss for LaCouvee.

Should have said, "At some point during his time on ice, either tied or ahead"

I get that... Thanks for the clarification. If any of those happen, not OConnors loss and shouldn't be