BU Off-Season: Forward to the Past

[buoldtimer]

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Glad you mentioned Brennan. Was always one of my favorites too. A good, soft-spoken kid who stayed 4 years even though he probably could have left early. Good thing he did ... definitely an important piece of the 95’ championship team.

And kudos on the Kris Werner reference. We don’t get too many of those on this board.

Over the past week, we've had references to John Preston, John Mattorazzo and Kris Werner - a historic week. And don't forget Kris's brother Kurt.

The Werners were from Fergus Falls, MN. I wonder if Fergus Falls is anywhere near Frostbite Falls, MN, hometown of Bullwinkle J. Moose.

 

[Scarlet]

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Over the past week, we've had references to John Preston, John Mattorazzo and Kris Werner - a historic week. And don't forget Kris's brother Kurt.

The Werners were from Fergus Falls, MN. I wonder if Fergus Falls is anywhere near Frostbite Falls, MN, hometown of Bullwinkle J. Moose.

Kurt!! I was trying to remember his name.

When BU played at Minnesota in January of 2004, I was there and we were hanging in the hotel lobby with a bunch of people and some former Terriers were there, Ryan Priem for one. And one of the Werners was there. I don’t know which one. But I did go up to him to say hi and that I knew he was one of the twins and he was surprised I knew who he was.

 

[Sean Pickett]

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Over the past week, we've had references to John Preston, John Mattorazzo and Kris Werner - a historic week. And don't forget Kris's brother Kurt.

And yet, you've already forgotten my mention of Keith Emery! Now I don't feel so bad that I completely forgot him.

Sean

 

[buoldtimer]

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And yet, you've already forgotten my mention of Keith Emery! Now I don't feel so bad that I completely forgot him.

Sean

How could I forget. I think Emery played more games than the other three combined.

 

[defkit]

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Watching old games and thinking about those title and near-title-winning teams, it's clear to see the impact when a large recruiting class sticks around for 4 years.

I've probably missed some names, but here goes my best recollection:

87-88 freshman class: Dave Tomlinson, Ed Ronan, Phil von Stefinelli (sp?), Mike and Chris Lappin (transfered after 2 years I believe), Tom Dion (missed a year with injury so was only a Junior during 90-91), Kevin O'Sullivan, Joe Sacco (turned pro after Junior year). Was Chris McCann in that group? Matt Peskelewis? Was John Bradley in that class? I think so.

91-92 freshman class: Steve Thornton, Mike Prendergast, Rich Brennan, Kaj Linna, Adrian Aucoin (left for MJ (?) after one season), Mike Pomichter (turned pro after Junior year), Note: Joubert was a senior on that team but transferred in. I think McKersie and Herlofsky were in that freshman class no? Was Nick Vachon in that class? Dave Dahlberg's name comes to mind from a game when that year, but I don't think he was a freshman.

So clearly they still lost some players, but the number of quality seniors on those teams was a huge contributor to their success.

 

[buoldtimer]

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Watching old games and thinking about those title and near-title-winning teams, it's clear to see the impact when a large recruiting class sticks around for 4 years.

I've probably missed some names, but here goes my best recollection:

87-88 freshman class: Dave Tomlinson, Ed Ronan, Phil von Stefinelli (sp?), Mike and Chris Lappin (transfered after 2 years I believe), Tom Dion (missed a year with injury so was only a Junior during 90-91), Kevin O'Sullivan, Joe Sacco (turned pro after Junior year). Was Chris McCann in that group? Matt Peskelewis? Was John Bradley in that class? I think so.

91-92 freshman class: Steve Thornton, Mike Prendergast, Rich Brennan, Kaj Linna, Adrian Aucoin (left for MJ (?) after one season), Mike Pomichter (turned pro after Junior year), Note: Joubert was a senior on that team but transferred in. I think McKersie and Herlofsky were in that freshman class no? Was Nick Vachon in that class? Dave Dahlberg's name comes to mind from a game when that year, but I don't think he was a freshman.

So clearly they still lost some players, but the number of quality seniors on those teams was a huge contributor to their success.

87-88 - Delete Kevin O'Sullivan who was a freshman in 89-90. Add Mark Krys and Darin MacDonald. Bradley was a member of that class.

While checking this, I discovered that Ville Kentala went 15-19-34 during the 1988-89 season. I have no memory that he was an impact player to any degree.

91-92 - Add John Lilley (left during soph season), Ken Rausch and Jon Jacques (left after freshman season).

The 1989-90 class was a solid class, also. Amonte, Cashman, Ahola, O'Sullivan, Mark Bavis, Mike Bavis, Legault (left after soph season).

The 1989-90 team that reached the FF, actually lost two players to season ending injuries, Tom Dion and David Sacco. Each of whom played three games before donning the redshirt.

 

[Scarlet]

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While checking this, I discovered that Ville Kentala went 15-19-34 during the 1988-89 season. I have no memory that he was an impact player to any degree.

Ville Kentala’s claim to fame is he scored the first ever goal in the new Conte Forum!

 

[buoldtimer]

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Ville Kentala’s claim to fame is he scored the first ever goal in the new Conte Forum!

I thought it was Joe Sacco.

 

[defkit]

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I thought it was Joe Sacco.

No - Kentala is right.

And in terms of his impact, I have to admit that watching some of the Beanpot games from 87 (I think) and 88, I was impressed with Kentala's play, more than I expected to be.

 

[wysi]

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Watching old games and thinking about those title and near-title-winning teams, it's clear to see the impact when a large recruiting class sticks around for 4 years.

I've probably missed some names, but here goes my best recollection:

87-88 freshman class: Dave Tomlinson, Ed Ronan, Phil von Stefinelli (sp?), Mike and Chris Lappin (transfered after 2 years I believe), Tom Dion (missed a year with injury so was only a Junior during 90-91), Kevin O'Sullivan, Joe Sacco (turned pro after Junior year). Was Chris McCann in that group? Matt Peskelewis? Was John Bradley in that class? I think so.

91-92 freshman class: Steve Thornton, Mike Prendergast, Rich Brennan, Kaj Linna, Adrian Aucoin (left for MJ (?) after one season), Mike Pomichter (turned pro after Junior year), Note: Joubert was a senior on that team but transferred in. I think McKersie and Herlofsky were in that freshman class no? Was Nick Vachon in that class? Dave Dahlberg's name comes to mind from a game when that year, but I don't think he was a freshman.

So clearly they still lost some players, but the number of quality seniors on those teams was a huge contributor to their success.

I'm pretty sure Nick Vachon was a freshman or sophomore in 90-91, I was chatting with him in the Dugout after the Beanpot win (it could well have been in 1990 though, a long time ago!).

 

[mookie1995]

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Watching old games and thinking about those title and near-title-winning teams, it's clear to see the impact when a large recruiting class sticks around for 4 years..

well...... merrimack and nu have large recruiting classes that stick around too

 

[Sean Pickett]

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If you have been reading my posts you might remember I mentioned I had betamax tapes, but no working machine. I was able to rent one (donations still accepted) and I've converted 4+ BU games, including the 1989 & 1990 Beanpot championship games, and Harvard's 1989 NCAA title run. Here are the most recent games I've uploaded to my Google drive:

1987 Feb 15 BU at PC
1988 Jan 26 BU at Lowell
1989 Beanpot Championship BU vs Harvard
1989 NCAA Quarterfinals game 2 LSSU at Harvard
1989 NCAA Semifinal Harvard vs MSU
1989 NCAA Championship Harvard vs Minnesota
1990 Beanpot Championship BU vs Harvard
1990 Feb 21 BU at PC (missing last 12:43 of game)
1991 Beanpot Championship (upgraded with better video for most of game)
2000 Beanpot Semifinal BU vs Harvard
2000 Beanpot Championship BU vs BC
2002 Beanpot Semifinal NU vs Harvard
2002 Beanpot Semifinal BU vs BC
2002 Beanpot CHampionship BU vs NU (complete)
2014 Nov 07 BU at BC (missing first 8 minutes)
2015 Beanpot Semifinal BU vs Harvard
2015 Beanpot Championship BU vs NU
2015 Nov 13 BU at PC

Bonus material
Mike Grier 1995 NESN profile

That bring the total number of games up to 214: 176 BU games and 38 non-BU games. BU's record in the games is 157-12-7, which is 12 more losses than I thought I had and 11 more than I planned to keep (it turns out I was fine with keeping BU's Great Western Freezeout loss to Maine). I've updated the game index and I've also started to add notes for games with video and audio tracking issues. I've also changes the columns for each team so it now shows how many goals the team scored.

In the 12 Feb 1987 PC at BU game in overtime both Preston and Matterazzo had a good shift shortly before the winning goal was scored and are mentioned, Preston several times. The 15 Feb 1987 BU at PC game has a Bob Norton interview of David Quinn during the second intermission and in hindsight it was obvious that he would be a coach. Sean McDonough also mentioned talk of Hockey East wanting Notre Dame to join the league.

Sean

 

[mookie1995]

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89 Beanpot vs hu

Which season was it at the end of year banquet (04, 09?) that jackpa gets up and says Peter fish was originally going to be here to present an award, but instead had to go to the Harvard banquet to get his award as 89 beanpot mvp .

 

[defkit]

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89 Beanpot vs hu

Which season was it at the end of year banquet (04, 09?) that jackpa gets up and says Peter fish was originally going to be here to present an award, but instead had to go to the Harvard banquet to get his award as 89 beanpot mvp .

Ouch! I did notice in re-watching that game, that despite having a great breakaway save when we were down 3-0, which allowed us to battle back to take the lead, he let in some softies after that.

 

[defkit]

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I think Google's capital expenditures are going up to keep up with storage needs for one Mr. Pickett in the Boston area.

Seriously - thanks for all you are doing.

 

[buoldtimer]

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89 Beanpot vs hu

Which season was it at the end of year banquet (04, 09?) that jackpa gets up and says Peter fish was originally going to be here to present an award, but instead had to go to the Harvard banquet to get his award as 89 beanpot mvp .

Classic JP, and a great line.

 

[buoldtimer]

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Sean, while watching the 1990 Beanpot final, I noticed that Kevin O'Sullivan skated a forward line. Using your data base, can you tell how many games he skated up front? Do you recall the circumstances under which he was moved to forward?

 

[Sean Pickett]

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Ville Kentala’s claim to fame is he scored the first ever goal in the new Conte Forum!

I thought it was Joe Sacco.

No - Kentala is right.

And in terms of his impact, I have to admit that watching some of the Beanpot games from 87 (I think) and 88, I was impressed with Kentala's play, more than I expected to be.

You can now watch the goal (and game) as it is up on my Google drive: 1988 Nov 1 BU at BC. Renting that Betamax machine is looking like a good idea.

Sean

 

[Sean Pickett]

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Sean, while watching the 1990 Beanpot final, I noticed that Kevin O'Sullivan skated a forward line. Using your data base, can you tell how many games he skated up front? Do you recall the circumstances under which he was moved to forward?

I don’t recall why, but based on line charts it appears that Chris McCann was injured and Coach Parker liked the play of O’Sullivan over the other forwards available. He played at NU the Thursday before the Beanpot and the Beanpot semifinal vs BC, then was back on defense as McCann played (or tried) against Merrimack in the betweener game. Kevin then played the next 5 games as the 4th line left wing, returning to defense one game before McCann’s return for the entire postseason (Ron Trentini played 4th line center for that last game McCann missed).

Sean

 

[wysi]

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Ouch! I did notice in re-watching that game, that despite having a great breakaway save when we were down 3-0, which allowed us to battle back to take the lead, he let in some softies after that.

I want to rewatch that game just to see Lane MacDonald's goal again... on his knees with his back to the goal.