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BU 2014-15 season threat III - Jasmine gets to see us 4 more times

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I understand everything about the seeding. I. Don't. Want. BC. In. BU's. Bracket. I don't care if we were the #1 seed and they squeaked in at #16. I. Don't. Want. BC. In. BU's. Bracket. I also think if they were so worried about attendance across the board that they would split the two because of all the eastern teams, they would draw the biggest crowds. Why put all your eggs in one basket? And in case you didn't get it the first two times I. Don't. Want. BC. In. BU's. Bracket.
 
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Scarlet said:
I understand everything about the seeding. I. Don't. Want. BC. In. BU's. Bracket. I don't care if we were the #1 seed and they squeaked in at #16. I. Don't. Want. BC. In. BU's. Bracket. I also think if they were so worried about attendance across the board that they would split the two because of all the eastern teams, they would draw the biggest crowds. Why put all your eggs in one basket? And in case you didn't get it the first two times I. Don't. Want. BC. In. BU's. Bracket.
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Got it. But even if you say it 50 times, it's not going to change anything. And we don't even know for sure yet what's going to happen.
 
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Why put all your eggs in one basket?
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They're (presumably) not. There are TWO baskets. All they need in Providence is Providence. The other basket is ManchVegas. They need BOTH BU and BC because (here we go again), although both schools have very loyal, vocal and dedicated die-hard fans, they don't have BIG numbers. They just don't..regardless of what you think. I'm saying "relative" to the big state schools. If UNH were there they would bring 4 times what we bring. They need BOTH BU and BC there or the place will be half empty.
 
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I'm going to bed. Have a good night and relax. We just won Hockey East. Enjoy it! :) It's been six years...
 
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No they don't. Because just having Providence in Providence is not going to guarantee any kind of amazing numbers. When's the last time you went to The Coffin for a game?
 
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Geez, two comments about the game and then everyone jumps into seedings and math-ups. ENJOY THE WIN, FOLKS!

- A much better performance than against UNH. There were still some let-downs, but all in all, the team looked much more in synch
- What the F was Hohmann thinking taking a DUMB penalty with a minute to go? Have you ever seen a more obvious delay of game/covering the puck? I get that he was trying to do the smart thing by killing time along the boards, but that was a terrible way to do it. Thank goodness it didn't matter
- Eichel - what more can you say? His skill is on another level. I thought he did a really nice job on the defensive end tonight, hustling to get his stick in front of pucks. On one play, a guy made a move around him, he spun and hustled to keep his stick on the guys stick, and eventually knocked the puck away. The scouts have to like what they are seeing. I'm thrilled he got the freshman record for BU. Given the way the game is played versus when some of those other guys scored 50+ points, he is a cut above.
- How about the second half that Grzelcyk is having? He has been on a tear.
- I watched the awards ceremony on the DVR when I got home. I loved Roberto starting to skate towards Bertagna when they said "a unanimous pick at forward from BU"...he appears to be the clown of the group
- OC looked sharp. The d let him down on a couple of the goals. His stock has risen this weekend for sure

What a turnaround. 10 wins to 25 wins and counting. The first team to win the title in a 12-team Hockey East conference. Let's hope there is more hardware coming!
 
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Ok, now I have a bone to pick with the refs/rulebook. Since when has reviewing a goal for an offsides been possible? Nevermind the fact that in this case, the play was so close that nobody could know for certain until it was slowed down to a frame-by-frame with close-ups. In the past, you could never review a goal to see if the play was offsides or not. In this case the linesman was right there, and made a clear call that he thought is was onside.

Here is where I have a problem with it. The goal was scored probably 5 seconds after the puck was brought into the zone. What would have happened if BU passed it around a few times and scored 20 seconds after it came into the zone. To take it a step further, how about if they brought it in on a play that ultimately upon review was offsides, but then it came out of the zone, they brought it back in (clearly onside this time) and then scored. Can they go back to the first time it was brought in the zone? It doesn't seem logical to be able to review something and wave off a goal if it wasn't a direct impact on the goal going in (e.g. knocked in by a high stick, in after the whistle, goalie interference).

In some ways this is the same issue when in the 2003 HE Semis against BC, when Justin Maiser tied up the game. He knocked the puck down with the stick raised enough where it could have been a high stick, but may not have been. After he knocked the puck down, he gathered it and fired it past the goalie. Now in my mind, once the ref did not blow the whistle immediately to signal the puck being knocked down with a high stick, they could not use that play to negate the goal. Otherwise, where do you draw the line on what sort of play that took place prior to a goal can be reviewed. To my point above, if a puck was knocked down with a high stick in a teams own zone, but the call is not made, then they skate up ice and score, can that be reviewed? Parker made a comment in the post-game of that game against BC making this exact point.

So when did the rule change, and how does it read?

I know that one of the goals against UNH was apparently also being reviewed and I was just as upset, even though it was not waved off (it was onside by a mile).
 
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Ok, now I have a bone to pick with the refs/rulebook. Since when has reviewing a goal for an offsides been possible? Nevermind the fact that in this case, the play was so close that nobody could know for certain until it was slowed down to a frame-by-frame with close-ups. In the past, you could never review a goal to see if the play was offsides or not. In this case the linesman was right there, and made a clear call that he thought is was onside.

Here is where I have a problem with it. The goal was scored probably 5 seconds after the puck was brought into the zone. What would have happened if BU passed it around a few times and scored 20 seconds after it came into the zone. To take it a step further, how about if they brought it in on a play that ultimately upon review was offsides, but then it came out of the zone, they brought it back in (clearly onside this time) and then scored. Can they go back to the first time it was brought in the zone? It doesn't seem logical to be able to review something and wave off a goal if it wasn't a direct impact on the goal going in (e.g. knocked in by a high stick, in after the whistle, goalie interference).

In some ways this is the same issue when in the 2003 HE Semis against BC, when Justin Maiser tied up the game. He knocked the puck down with the stick raised enough where it could have been a high stick, but may not have been. After he knocked the puck down, he gathered it and fired it past the goalie. Now in my mind, once the ref did not blow the whistle immediately to signal the puck being knocked down with a high stick, they could not use that play to negate the goal. Otherwise, where do you draw the line on what sort of play that took place prior to a goal can be reviewed. To my point above, if a puck was knocked down with a high stick in a teams own zone, but the call is not made, then they skate up ice and score, can that be reviewed? Parker made a comment in the post-game of that game against BC making this exact point.

So when did the rule change, and how does it read?

I know that one of the goals against UNH was apparently also being reviewed and I was just as upset, even though it was not waved off (it was onside by a mile).
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Reviewing offsides was only allowed on TV games then it became any games I believe for this year after UMass - BC fiasco last season.
 
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The offside rule is a recent addition, I believe the coach can request the review, but if it's not overturned he loses his timeout.
 
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BU has to win four games now. Only one team can go 4-0, and if they want to have one more banner, they'll have to be the ones to do it. Doesn't matter if it's BC or not.

Now's the time to fight.
 
Curious why every single pundit's bracket places BU in Manchester even though everyone is sending Providence out west? I looked on an app and Machester and Providence are 57 and 53 miles from Agganis. Assuming that the teams stay the same, where do you want BU? I want them in Providence. Does the committee actually get in a room together to figure this out or do they just let USCHO and CHN experts do all the work and determine if they make any tweaks?
 
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Curious why every single pundit's bracket places BU in Manchester even though everyone is sending Providence out west? I looked on an app and Machester and Providence are 57 and 53 miles from Agganis. Assuming that the teams stay the same, where do you want BU? I want them in Providence. Does the committee actually get in a room together to figure this out or do they just let USCHO and CHN experts do all the work and determine if they make any tweaks?
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It doesn't matter where BU is, it matters who they're playing.

The actual location is less important than who is there. In an optimal situation your brackets are 1-8-9-16; 2-7-10-15; 3-6-11-14; and 4-5-12-13. Now, most bracketologists take that as the basis, and control for a few things (home team has to stay in his/her bracket, keep No. 1-4 close to home — however, "a flight is a flight," avoid first-round intraconference matchups, try to spread out when possible). But bracket integrity seems to be very important. Putting BU in Manchester and BU in Providence is the same, but it would be the entire matchup in Providence or the entire matchup in Manchester.

I think that Moy thinks that having Yale and Harvard in Providence will do better than having them in Manchester (a longer drive for the Yalies). BU and BC draw well together.

But ManchVegas has been good to BU, so let's hope the luck stays the same.
 
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Just wanted to pop in an congratulate BU and their fans on the Hockey East Championship. Best of luck in the NCAA tournament.
 
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I tried to convince some Maine fans that Eichel reminds me of Kariya but they say no comparison. That pass on the first goal was soft, went thru 3 lowell skaters and was an easy tap in, looked just like a pass Kariya would make to me. Different era in Hockey so one can't expect him to get the points Paul did. Once in a lifetime player, hope you guys enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed Paul. Good luck in the NCAAs
 
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Great interview with #9 from CHN's Joe Meloni

"I've never played for a school before," he said. "That was one of the reasons I wanted to come to college. I wanted to play for more than just myself. I wanted to play for more than just my team. There's so much on the line every time we play, especially when you're on a big stage like the tournaments — the Beanpot or the Hockey East tournament. You want to win for everyone at school and anyone who wore the jersey. You don't want to let them down. It's really nice for the seniors and the upperclassmen who went through a lot in their time at BU."

"There's so much tradition here," Eichel said. "It's a winning program. You practice at Agganis every day, you see all the banners, and you hear from all the alumni that won those banners from when they came through the program. Earlier in the year, we had Nick Bonino talk to us before the Beanpot. He was adamant about the fact that we weren't just playing for ourselves. We were playing for our school. We were playing for everyone that's ever went to BU and everyone who ever played for BU. I take a lot of pride in that."
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Edit: just saw that Scarlet linked to Meloni's piece late last night. Just the same, his words--for an 18 year old--are almost as impressive as his on-ice work.
 
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I understand everything about the seeding. I. Don't. Want. BC. In. BU's. Bracket. I don't care if we were the #1 seed and they squeaked in at #16. I. Don't. Want. BC. In. BU's. Bracket. I also think if they were so worried about attendance across the board that they would split the two because of all the eastern teams, they would draw the biggest crowds. Why put all your eggs in one basket? And in case you didn't get it the first two times I. Don't. Want. BC. In. BU's. Bracket.
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Couldn't have said it better myself it's borderline unfair in the old days Parker could have lobbied his way out of that matchup
 
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