BU 2013-2014: Ready to Quinn

[Agganis]

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Kurker has 4 penalties in 7 games.

Who invited you and your facts?
The bigger issue is I can remember 3 of his penalties, 2 were deep in the attacking zone and one was at the attacking blue line. Depending on where the 4th one occured he may be averaging 150+ ft from his own net on penalties this year.

I think he could be a solid third line player and stay 4 years, not that STL would be happy with that college career.

 

[sleeper709]

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BU just lacks any depth at forward. Kelley should have been playing up. Duane is painfully slow. but his positioning is very good, he hustles and he's got decent hands.

It wasn't that long ago when we could roll four lines. Not only would the fourth line punish teams physically, they could also produce (i.e., McCarthy, McGuirk and Weston). More recently, the fourth line would play for two periods and the bench would be shortened in the third period. Last Friday, DQ had to take fourth line out of the game in the first period after BC's second goal. They were so overmatched he couldn't use them as a unit until the game got out of hand.

It is a transition year. The effort is there but there is simply not enough talent.

Agree with Terrance on Lane. He looked quick on Friday and is creating some opportunities for himself. Completely disagree on Kurker. Until he shows effort in both ends and stays out of the penalty box, he's going to end up sitting.

Duane is a presence in front of the net on the power play, but he is painfully slow. He's a smart player, has good hands and can hopefully pick up two steps between freshman and sophomore years.

Here's hoping the concession team at Agganis will figure out by December how to work the math so that the final price of items ends in increments of $.25.

 

[BUfancuzFSCsux]

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[carltonbarrett]

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BU seems to be playing with a fairly weak 2nd type line that's masquerading as a first line, as well as a 3rd type line, a 4th type line and a walk-on type line. Your basically completely missing a talented first type line. I know there's some talent arriving in 2015, but this may be a 2-3 year slide if the current players don't start improving quickly .

 

[J.D.]

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Rodrigues and hohmann seemed like they were developing into pretty good players. O'regan is good, just don't see much after that. How have those three guys been? They need to lead the way a la gaudreau, hayes, arnold. Not comparing them, just saying they share the same role on each team.

 

[carltonbarrett]

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Hohmann and Rodrigues have combined for 3 goals and O'Regan has 3, so their big three have combined for a total of 6 goals. In the same amount of games, BC's big three have combined for 17 goals. That's pretty much BU's story in a nutshell...

The other problem is that they have no Freshmen forwards even close to Cangelosi or Fitz..

 

[ericredaxe]

The other problem is that they have no Freshmen forwards even close to Cangelosi or Fitz..

Balligeron.

But your overall theory is correct. Depth at forward is our problem right now.

 

[claver2010]

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Balligeron.

But your overall theory is correct. Depth at forward is our problem right now.

Had that problem last year, only got compounded by injuries & suspensions. It's early but crazy what 1 class can do.

 

[Rover]

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Hate to admit it but BU didn't belong in the same ice as BC. The gap in talent is disturbing. I understand these aren't Quinn's recruits so I'm hopeful he's going to get in better players next year. I don't think its a matter of BU not trying. It was a matter of BU being too far behind BC's best game. In fact, they aren't even able to catch a bus back to BC's best game.

I'd also like to see O'Regan be more of a difference maker. Gaudreau was all over the place making plays. O'Regan not so much and he needs to bring his best against the best. Also did we dress any freshmen because they were nowhere to be found? I'm seeing little in the way of talent out of any of them and we can't afford yet another lost class.

 

[CollegeHockeyRinkReport]

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Former BU recruit Robert Polesello has left Vermont for major junior.

http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/201...-polesello-leaves-uvm-signs-with-kingston-ohl

 

[BCeagle]

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Hate to admit it but BU didn't belong in the same ice as BC. The gap in talent is disturbing. I understand these aren't Quinn's recruits so I'm hopeful he's going to get in better players next year. I don't think its a matter of BU not trying. It was a matter of BU being too far behind BC's best game. In fact, they aren't even able to catch a bus back to BC's best game.

I'd also like to see O'Regan be more of a difference maker. Gaudreau was all over the place making plays. O'Regan not so much and he needs to bring his best against the best. Also did we dress any freshmen because they were nowhere to be found? I'm seeing little in the way of talent out of any of them and we can't afford yet another lost class.

What is the feeling of the 2 big defensemen Somerby and Carrabino ? I just happen to notice them on the roster and their size.

 

[Tater]

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What is the feeling of the 2 big defensemen Somerby and Carrabino ? I just happen to notice them on the roster and their size.

Somerby, huge but raw talent. Needs some work but good potential.

Carrabino is a transfer from Clarkson, won't be eligible until next season.

 

[DaveStPaul]

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So here's a cool story, which I prefer to rehashing Friday's game.

Sunday I was at an all-day USAHockey coaching clinic. One of the presenters was Hans Skulstad, Chairman of the Hobey Baker committee. His presentation was on how to put forth a positive attitude as a coach, not just because it works better and is nicer for everyone, but because you have the chance to affect someone's life. And he told about giving the award to Matt Gilroy in '09.

After the presentation, they were supposed to walk to some other part of the arena for a reception (or something). On the way, Matt says, "Is there somewhere we can go for a second? Somewhere quiet?" Hans says yes, and they find a small room to duck into. Matt gets out his phone and makes a call: "Hi Lexi. I just won the Hobey Baker Award. I wanted to call and let you know I couldn't have done it without you." Hans goes, "Wow Matt, that's great, calling your girlfriend to say thanks." And Matt goes, "That's not my girlfriend Hans; she's my youth hockey coach."

And Hans -- who's actually getting emotional telling this! -- said to us, "That's when I knew we picked the right guy."
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So there's a little BU pride for you.

edit: If only I'd had my BU jersey on! Oh well.

 

[Rover]

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So.....how 'bout that Agganis arena ticket policy?

Gotta do something to liven this thread up.

 

[buoldtimer]

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Balligeron.

But your overall theory is correct. Depth at forward is our problem right now.

Well, Quinn became Associate HC and primary recruiter in the fall of 2004. Eventually, the players he recruited won a National Championship. I guess you could ask, "where are the other championships? He was at BU for five seasons". True, but his players did win an NC, which counts for plenty. On the negative side, Trivino, Nicastro, Saponari and Glass were his recruits. It's hard to see that factor as positive. Perhaps, if he'd been at BU during that period, he may have had a positive influence on their behavior. Strictly idle speculation.

It's difficult to say that BU's recruiting hasn't suffered during his absence.

 

[Rover]

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Well, Quinn became Associate HC and primary recruiter in the fall of 2004. Eventually, the players he recruited won a National Championship. I guess you could ask, "where are the other championships? He was at BU for five seasons". True, but his players did win an NC, which counts for plenty. On the negative side, Trivino, Nicastro, Saponari and Glass were his recruits. It's hard to see that factor as positive. Perhaps, if he'd been at BU during that period, he may have had a positive influence on their behavior. Strictly idle speculation.

It's difficult to say that BU's recruiting hasn't suffered during his absence.

Did he bring in Chiasson, Megan, Coyle, etc as well? Not sure, just asking.

Trivino was a good player. Not sure if his booze problems presented themselves while he was being recruited. Not sure what anybody saw in Saponari unless he had a better ability to hit wide open nets before he came to BU.

Regardless I agree we're suffering from what appears to be a few classes of lunchbucket players who are playing hard but aside from O'Regan don't seem to be killing it in the talent department.

 

[Friend_of_BU_Hockey]

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BU's lack of depth at forward is magnified by the midseason departures of Cisse and Wesley Myron a year ago, Gill's unexpected offseason departure, and Jarrid Privitera not coming following his brother's departure. Their presence on this year's team would've likely meant we wouldn't be seeing Moscatel, Ronan, TJ Ryan, Dillon Lawrence, Tommy Kelley in the lineup.

Having said that, it's also possible that if Gill, Cisse, Myron, and both Priviteras were on BU's roster, Moscatel may not have used his last year of eligibility, plus Lawrence and Kelley may have played a year of Juniors before coming here. Plus Nick Roberto may not have come following decommitting from Maine (although I think Nieto's expected departure opened up a spot for Roberto).

Granted Gill, Cisse and Myron aren't exactly Gaudreau, Arnold and Hayes, their presence in the BU lineup would've "normalized" the depth a bit.

 

[buoldtimer]

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BU's lack of depth at forward is magnified by the midseason departures of Cisse and Wesley Myron a year ago, Gill's unexpected offseason departure, and Jarrid Privitera not coming following his brother's departure. Their presence on this year's team would've likely meant we wouldn't be seeing Moscatel, Ronan, TJ Ryan, Dillon Lawrence, Tommy Kelley in the lineup.

Having said that, it's also possible that if Gill, Cisse, Myron, and both Priviteras were on BU's roster, Moscatel may not have used his last year of eligibility, plus Lawrence and Kelley may have played a year of Juniors before coming here. Plus Nick Roberto may not have come following decommitting from Maine (although I think Nieto's expected departure opened up a spot for Roberto).

Granted Gill, Cisse and Myron aren't exactly Gaudreau, Arnold and Hayes, their presence in the BU lineup would've "normalized" the depth a bit.

Just asking, was Kelley considered a "get", or as "just another guy"?

 

[Rover]

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To me its more talent than depth, unless we're using those interchangeably. BU has enough guys who won't embarass themselves out there, but what we're missing is top of the line talent. Over the long haul, talent will win out ("hard work beats talent unless talent works"). The Bruins-Blackhawks Stanley Cup is great example. Once Bergeron went down the two best players on the ice played for Chicago. It took awhile, but eventually those guys killed the B's while people like Lucic still struggled to hit an open net.

I like how hard the team works, but watching BC forwards continually weave around BU players and then zip tape to tape passes to a wide open player on the goalie's weak side was disturbing to say the least. I don't see that getting better with the people we have now, so these high profile recruits had better be able to skate, shoot, and pass with the best of 'em and not be 3rd line grinders.

 

[Friend_of_BU_Hockey]

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Just asking, was Kelley considered a "get", or as "just another guy"?

I believe more of the latter. I also believe the original plan was for Kelley to play Juniors this year, then arrive at BU in Fall 2014. IMO, 2 trickle down effects of a program hit hard by unexpected early departures or dismissals are:

- players are brought in a year early out of need
- its often too late in the recruiting cycle/process to adequately replace unexpected departures

Another way of looking at BU's lack of depth is the current Senior class started out as the following in Fall 2010: Cisse, Clendening, Coyle, Gill, MacGregor, Nieto, Noonan, Ronan.