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Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder

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LTsatch said:
Just checked the start of the game, the ILDN shows the start of the Harlow hit but not any impact or resulting outcome, so I really can't judge. I find it interesting that the announcers who are 50' above the Brown bench did not react to the hit. I know the announcers are students, but the female announcer actually played and knows hockey and tends to overreact to hard hits. The Ward hit penalty was deserving due to the Brown player skating across the entire width of the ice just to take him out, it looks from the replay that Ward hit the boards head first, hopefully he is OK. Tough to see the slew footing from the camera angle, really can't comment other than the Yale player was taken down. Just my take from the replays.
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The Harlow hit happened literally 20 feet in front of me, so you'll have to take my word for it. It looked bad. Doesn't necessarily mean it was intentionally delivered - just in a bad part of the ice.

kdiff77 said:
BrunoFan00- bravo! What an excellent post.
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Thanks. I try.

I'm very interested to see what the league does in the aftermath of the Union-RPI debacle. Obviously, I wasn't there, but it seems that the game had to have gotten to that point somehow. That's two games on the weekend where officiating or at the very least the on-ice animus was in part created by the control or lack thereof by the officials. I have been, by and large, kind of pleased with the ECAC officiating this year, and made my own resolution to not criticize them from the onset of the year until given excuse. Sadly, that day arrived. And hopefully, that day has passed.
 
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I don't have a lot to add to the Lamacchia penalty -- I was sitting in the other end zone. But I was watching it... the two players were tangled up and the Yale player was fairly violently turned supine. I'm quite sure Lamacchia applied leverage up top.... the question is what caused the player to then head down flat. Frankly, as I saw it I though their feet got tangled or possibly a stick (again... I was the length of the ice away, but with a very good view).

But overall, I guess I don't understand the point that 48 PM to 8 PM couldn't be unbiased. 20 of those minutes were the DQs, so they didn't affect the game directly. Now you're at 28 to 8. I hear complaints about one time Middleton was pulled down (if it's the play I'm thinking of it didn't look like a penalty at all from my angle, but YMMV). But Yale has been penalized fewer times than any team in Div 1, and is 54th in PM/game. They are averaging 9 minutes per game. I am willing to entertain the hypothesis that refs let things go when the defending champions do them, but, frankly, I doubt it. Brown, by contrast, is the mirror image - 5th in PPM per game at 16 Min/game. So a discrepancy between the two teams in penalty minutes is pretty much expected, although obviously not quite this wide. What it seems to me you're left arguing (and it's not a silly argument) is that refs usually let things go when a team is a man down, and they obviously didn't let anything go by Brown in the first 5 minutes of this game. But now we're on slightly different ground, namely, how much should you let them get away with when they're a man down. I suspect, for the 5th most penalized team in hockey, the answer is -- not so much.

That said, I agree the game wasn't very interesting after about the first 10 minutes. But the chances that Bruno and Eli will meet again this season are not low.
 
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We weren't 5th in penalty minutes per game until this past game. We were averaging around 12 per, the last time I checked, which is NOT indicative of a team that just goes out and accumulates 48 (28, if you want to dismiss the DQs) willy nilly. I don't mean to say they let Yale infractions go. I'm saying there were a plethora of bogus calls on Brown.
 
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Well, if it was a whole plethora I stand corrected. Good point on the stats though: 48 in one game is, for teams that have played 19 games, a pretty big blow to the average.
 
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I'm moving on from the Yale game. While the result was disappointing, it's Tuesday, typically the start of the new practice week and the start of the look ahead. When I coached, our team had the midnight rule - after a win or loss, the euphoria or disappointment was to be gone after midnight, as we moved forward (to the tune of 250-plus wins and less than 40 losses, albeit not in hockey, might I add).

This weekend, though, makes me tense. Colgate is playing great hockey, and Cornell is vastly improved - probably the team in the league that very quietly is putting together a solid season. Cornell hasn't lost a game since Thanksgiving; Colgate is undefeated in 2014. Two very stout opponents - admittedly two that I know very little about, having not seen either play this year. It seems the Colgate sophomore class grew up quite quickly - to the tune of their top five scorers, in fact. To be in contention for the top 5-6 in this league, this year, wins at home are a requirement and at worst .500 on the road a necessity, so that puts some pressure on the Bears to get back on track. Wins, and the Bears can talk about "unbeaten in 9 of the last eleven." Lose both, and we're talking about four losses in the last five games. Huge swing at a crucial time of year.
 
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This weekend is HUGE. Two points are a necessity; anything less will have to be considered disappointing, even considering the quality of the opponents.

I just hope we can tie Colgate and use the energy from what might be another sellout on Saturday to upset Cornell. Colgate is hotter at this time and they've always had our number. Saturday's game, in my estimation, is much more winnable.
 
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kdiff77;5870191...Did everyone see this article on the main page? Whittet is too nice.[/QUOTE said:
Those were smart, classy comments by Brendan. I totally agree with him. When something goes wrong that early in a game, no matter whose fault it might be, you gotta play up to the challenge -- and certainly you go out of your way to avoid further penalties, not incur them.

You can say some of those penalties were wonky, but not all of them. Really good teams and players know when to hold 'em -- in this case, to hold back their urge to retaliate or deliver dirty hits and checks.

Looking forward to the home games this weekend. I've decided when it comes to this league, anything can happen on any given night. Only way to view the Brown hockey rollercoaster -- for me, anyway.
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BrunoFan00 said:
Cornell is vastly improved - probably the team in the league that very quietly is putting together a solid season. Cornell hasn't lost a game since Thanksgiving; Colgate is undefeated in 2014. Two very stout opponents - admittedly two that I know very little about, having not seen either play this year.
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Cornell has been playing better, but we had also been playing the "easy" part of our schedule until the Clarkson game. We're now in the killer stretch: road games at Yale, Brown and Colgate, home against the Cap District and then at Q.

Cornell in a nutshell: serviceable goaltending and solid defense (especially now that the freshmen are near the 20-game mark), and then we scrape around to find some goals. Until last weekend the first line had been dangerous. Then the North Country teams bottled them up beautifully only to have the second line save us. It's great (and unusual since 2010) for a Schafer squad to have two potentially explosive forward lines, but as luck would have it they seem to be an XOR on a given weekend. The lower lines give good D but don't contribute much else.

Our big improvement over last year has been staying out of the box. This is a disciplined team that takes few bad penalties and does not fall when baited. Oddly, our strong January has been accompanied by a powerplay drought.

This is a huge weekend for all four teams -- just as the home teams want to collapse the 5/6 gap the visitors want those tectonic plates to separate. Colgate is on fire and has to be the favorite in both their games. The two Big Red games are a push -- I'd take 2 points on the weekend and be ecstatic with 3.
 
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I'm headed down to Meehan for tonight's game vs. Colgate. Do I still have to park my car on one of the streets there?
 
Rainman said:
I'm headed down to Meehan for tonight's game vs. Colgate. Do I still have to park my car on one of the streets there?
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They removed the main lot right outside the arena, so parking is even worse than it used to be. :) Good luck! Get there half an hour early, if you can. And be prepared to walk.
 
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kdiff77 said:
They removed the main lot right outside the arena, so parking is even worse than it used to be. :) Good luck! Get there half an hour early, if you can. And be prepared to walk.
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Thanks. I don't mind walking, but I'll give myself some extra time driving there.
 
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Rainman said:
Thanks. I don't mind walking, but I'll give myself some extra time driving there.
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Kdiff is right about the 30 minutes. Taking his advice about the BC game, I arrived 45 minutes early and got a space on Hope St across from Meehan.

BTW, is Colgate bringing a lot of its fans?
 
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After tonight's win, last Saturday at Yale was truly an aberration.

Now Cornell!! Win here would help not only for ECAC bye/home ice, but also for Ivy championship.
 
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Congrats Bruno and GL the rest of the way. Beat Cornell !!!
 
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Mike Hutter said:
Now Cornell!! Win here would help not only for ECAC bye/home ice, but also for Ivy championship.
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Tonight is about as close as there is to a must-win for Brown to have a shot at the Ivy title. They've definitely arrived -- Colgate is a good team on a roll; smoking them is a feat.

I wish I could make tonight's match up. These are two interesting teams at the top of their game and it should be quality hockey.
 
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