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Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder

Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder

MarkEagleUSA said:
Certainly no way to inspire faithful fans. I can understand quelling over-the-top behavior and limiting f-bombs, but heckling is part of the game.

I'm not trying to start anything, but anytime I've been to Meehan the place has been dead. If this mandate is coming from the top, it will only serve to make matters worse. If you can't be vocal at a hockey game what's the point in going?
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It seems that what's important is for fans to pay the $10 ticket -- no discount for children. Hockey games appear to be nothing more than fundraising for the athletic department. Creating a good college atmosphere is of secondary (or no) importance.
 
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MarkEagleUSA said:
Certainly no way to inspire faithful fans. I can understand quelling over-the-top behavior and limiting f-bombs, but heckling is part of the game.

I'm not trying to start anything, but anytime I've been to Meehan the place has been dead. If this mandate is coming from the top, it will only serve to make matters worse. If you can't be vocal at a hockey game what's the point in going?

Good luck this afternoon. Sadly, I'm not making the trip today thanks to Mother Nature, so there will be one less loud QU fan in attendance. ;)
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I was at the QU game last year and their fans were using Thunder Sticks to make noise. The PA announcer came over the system and told the fans they were not allowed during play. Unreal!

PC gave them out last night to the fans. I find them annoying as hell, but the young kids love em and that is where you should at least be trying to build a fan base.
 
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I'm sure plenty of Q fans are going to be upset with the successive penalties in the third, but frankly, I don't have any sympathy because of the way Pecknold attempts to schmooze the refs all game. Q fans are (usually) very classy. Their coach is NOT.

Brown played its best period of the season in the first, and held on for dear life in the third. The inability to put games away is upsetting. Though we had multiple 5 on 3 opportunities and a five minute major, we failed to convert and left Q in the game. That can't happen going forward. SHOOT THE PUCK!!

All in all, this is the confidence boost the team needs to navigate the rest of the schedule. Four points against two subpar teams next week would be massive.

It's too bad the crowd wasn't better, but that was mostly the weather's fault. I heard there were under 500 tickets remaining, which, coupled with a good walkup crowd would have made for a near sellout. But there were TONS of no-shows. Unfortunately, the Q fans still made it out in force.
 
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If Quinnipiac is a product of an EXTREMELY successful formula, then Brendan Whittet has a formula that cracks the Qpac system. I've always thought Qpac is the result of a system that, quite simply, works, and if the right people are in the system, then they execute and become a great team. But Qpac is having so many problems through the years with Brown that I cant help but think that Whittet has the system to beat Qpac. If I'm anyone playing Qpac, I'm calling Whittet tomorrow asking for pointers.

Unless I'm Keith Allain. Then I don't ask anyone for help because I'm Keith Allain and I am clearly the master of the universe.
 
Humanoid said:
If Quinnipiac is a product of an EXTREMELY successful formula, then Brendan Whittet has a formula that cracks the Qpac system. I've always thought Qpac is the result of a system that, quite simply, works, and if the right people are in the system, then they execute and become a great team. But Qpac is having so many problems through the years with Brown that I cant help but think that Whittet has the system to beat Qpac. If I'm anyone playing Qpac, I'm calling Whittet tomorrow asking for pointers.

Unless I'm Keith Allain. Then I don't ask anyone for help because I'm Keith Allain and I am clearly the master of the universe.
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It's called falling asleep at the morgue that is Meehan. Quinnipiac plays Brown much better at home and has a losing record at Meehan. Congrats on the win. You outplayed us.
 
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QUAlum2004 said:
It's called falling asleep at the morgue that is Meehan. Quinnipiac plays Brown much better at home and has a losing record at Meehan. Congrats on the win. You outplayed us.
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That is a valid point, given the recent struggles to win at Meehan, now dating to 2009. However, I didn't think Quinnipiac was asleep last night at all, just outplayed. I think what would be most troubling to me, were I a Quinnipiac fan, is how quickly the Cats became mentally unglued in the third. Granted, a couple of the penalties were iffy - i.e. the Jones call for cross-checking the goalie had me scratching my head, since the puck was seemingly loose - but overall I thought the Van Brabant penalty started a complete and utter unraveling by the Bobcats.

In addition, I'm less than impressed with Rand Pecknold's overt disrespect for the officials. He can coach and recruit - there's no doubt about that - but his waving a hand at one of the officials, his dissent at the Van Brabant 5 (which was downright awful), and his overall attitude during the bench reeks of entitlement. Now, the officiating last night was imperfect. They seemed to have no idea what icing was (for either side), and there was more than one penalty on either side that was questionable (did anyone see how Kramer "tripped" a guy who lost an edge while letting go a shot from the point), but the Quinnipiac staff lost its cool, and the team followed suit.

Not a team I want to see in the playoffs by any stretch, but the Bears came out, played physical hockey, and gave Quinnipiac more than it was ready to handle. A shame that type of play was absent on Friday.
 
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BrunoFan00 said:
That is a valid point, given the recent struggles to win at Meehan, now dating to 2009. However, I didn't think Quinnipiac was asleep last night at all, just outplayed. I think what would be most troubling to me, were I a Quinnipiac fan, is how quickly the Cats became mentally unglued in the third. Granted, a couple of the penalties were iffy - i.e. the Jones call for cross-checking the goalie had me scratching my head, since the puck was seemingly loose - but overall I thought the Van Brabant penalty started a complete and utter unraveling by the Bobcats.

In addition, I'm less than impressed with Rand Pecknold's overt disrespect for the officials. He can coach and recruit - there's no doubt about that - but his waving a hand at one of the officials, his dissent at the Van Brabant 5 (which was downright awful), and his overall attitude during the bench reeks of entitlement. Now, the officiating last night was imperfect. They seemed to have no idea what icing was (for either side), and there was more than one penalty on either side that was questionable (did anyone see how Kramer "tripped" a guy who lost an edge while letting go a shot from the point), but the Quinnipiac staff lost its cool, and the team followed suit.

Not a team I want to see in the playoffs by any stretch, but the Bears came out, played physical hockey, and gave Quinnipiac more than it was ready to handle. A shame that type of play was absent on Friday.
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Watching and listening to the game instead of being at Meehan doesn't give you a full picture of the game. Was Pecknold's behavior that atrocious; is that typical behavior? Kdiff on the score thread mentioned his antics bit I couldn't tell. But Brunofan00 the broadcasts clearly showed that Q was outplayed and fell apart. Q was frustrated by Brown's effort and could not adjust See Humanoid's post below as to that.
 
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BrunoFan00 said:
I'm less than impressed with Rand Pecknold's overt disrespect for the officials. He can coach and recruit - there's no doubt about that - but his waving a hand at one of the officials, his dissent at the Van Brabant 5 (which was downright awful), and his overall attitude during the bench reeks of entitlement.
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I agree with you on two points: 1. Rand Pecknold is a great recruiter (though his job is easier than it'd be if he coached in the Ivy League, where he'd have to cope with higher admission standards and no scholarships: 2. His disrespect for the officials and his overall attitude do "reek of entitlement" as you said. I'm not convinced, however, that he's that great a COACH. Give any coach the players he's had, and he'll will most games. Nevertheless, at least recently, Pecknold's teams have had a bit of trouble in big games. In my opinion his athletes do not respond well to adversity. And evidently nor does he.

In case you're wondering, yes, I think Brendan Whittet is a better COACH than Rand Pecknold.

Incidentally, I agree with others who have suggested that Quinnipiac fans are among the nicest in the league. Mark Eagle, who sometimes posts to this discussion stream, is truly representative of their sportsmanship.
 
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Euler18 said:
Incidentally, I agree with others who have suggested that Quinnipiac fans are among the nicest in the league.
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They're also the hottest. I mean, if you're into that sort of thing. The Q section at the ECACs looks like somebody invited the USC cheerleaders to an AIPAC conference.
 
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Some thoughts on the last few posts:

-I think Humanoid is on to something regarding the system we use to play Q. There's something that Brendan conjures up to neutralize their effectiveness when they aren't playing at home. And, yes, Keith Allain is a Grade A blowhard. ;)

-BrunoFan said it perfectly- Pecknold interacts with the officials with an aura of entitlement. It's important to keep in mind, Rand, you're still the newcomer in this league.

-Mike, he's an embarrassment. And he finally got what was coming to him when the refs turned on him in the third. But he and some of his players wouldn't shut up all game. Tolkinen (who's not even a captain) and the goalie Garteig were in the refs' ears from the first puck drop, and Garteig was barking at them DURING play. Don't worry, I did plenty of barking back at him. :p

-Euler, I'm not sure what I think about a Whittet vs. Pecknold coaching comparison, but you're absolutely right about Q fans and especially MarkEagle. Absolutely terrific people to discuss the games with on here.
 
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder

It was difficult to see what was going on with Pecknold since the camera never showed him or the bench. Your announcers did mention the "hand" incident after the Van Brabant major (clearly a bad hit and stupid penalty to take at that point). Not to defend Pecknold, but we had St. Lawrence (the ref) at Yale Friday night and some of his calls were questionable at best. Perhaps it was just a continuation from the night before... still not an excuse but we all know the quality of ECAC officiating.

Much like St. Lawrence (the school) did last week, Brown came at us with a dose of our own medicine and some physicality that we just couldn't handle. What upset me most watching last night was that everytime we seemed to find some momentum, we'd do something stupid with the puck or take a penalty. Without replay it's hard to tell good calls from bad calls. The 2 I did see that I thought were bad were the cross-checking on Jones while going after a loose puck, and the elbowing call against Anas. Add in the icing called against Brown after deflecting off a Quinnipiac glove (Rubin was incredulous about that one).

Meehan just is not kind to us. Only one win since 08-09 (a 5-1 victory that season). Since then, a 2-1 loss, followed by 3 ties preceded last nights' debacle. And all that with usually more Q fans in the building. Maybe it's the last change that gives Brown an edge? Whatever it is, we struggle in your barn.

As far as being good fans, I learned long ago that a little trash talk is fine, but when you start getting arrogant or personal, you've crossed the line. It's a game, played by student-athletes who have more going on in their lives than lacing up a pair of skates. As fans we all want to win, but when we don't there's no need to whine over it. On the other hand, there's nothing to be gained by gloating after a win either.

I'm kind of sorry I didn't make the game last might since it would have been nice to finally meet a few of you.
 
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Don't worry about not making it last night, Mark. We can all meet up in Lake Placid! :)
 
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I'm sure it's of no consolation to you guys but I hope these 2 don't choose the MJr. route..... Brown's recruiting efforts takes two big hits as G Blake Weyrick and F Miles Wood decommit. Still plenty in the pipeline..... https://twitter.com/OTBPuckWatch
 
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