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Brown Hockey 2012-2013:Climbing the ECAC Ladder

Re: Brown Hockey 2012-2013:Climbing the ECAC Ladder

Very proud that Brendan Whittet is our coach. This team has bought in, hook, line and sinker. They outskated Dartmouth for long periods of the game, and two mistakes cost them the game, as the Bears beat themselves. To bounce back against Harvard and dominate the Crimson was impressive. I like that this team has not used the "if only we had..." as an excuse, whether related to injury, defection, etc.

I couldn't agree more. Brendan and his staff are doing a tremendous coaching job, keeping the team focused and adjusting to injuries to different players on a weekly (and sometimes daily) basis.

An excellent measure of good coaching is how young players develop. Look, for example, at how much every first-year player has progressed in little more than half a season. (We played our eleventh ECAC game against Harvard.) It's not only Naclerio and Pfeil, but also Nick Lappin and Joe Prescott, who seem to get better with every game.
 
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http://brownhockeyblog.blogspot.com/

My thoughts on the weekend, as well as our potential for home ice in the playoffs. I'll have a big piece on Matt Lorito posted tomorrow.

I agree with a couple of points, but I'll disagree on the prospect of home ice. Brown still has a good chunk of work to do in order to get to that point. A win over Harvard is huge, but Brown still only has 8 points. If the season ended today, I believe they would be hosting Clarkson by virtue of a tiebreaker.

I think Brown has their work cut out for them because, quite simply, they don't control their own destiny. They have four games left against Cornell and Colgate, including this weekend up at two complete and venerable houses of horrors where Brown hockey dreams typically go to die. And they have to go to Union, which puts the impetus on the season to win at RPI. We have to figure that Brown will not win at Cornell or at Union, nor will they beat Quinnpiac on the road or at home.

That means Brown has games left against Princeton (2), Yale (1), Colgate (2) and RPI. I wholly believe Princeton and RPI are bad hockey teams. Assuming Brown loses at Colgate because, well, Brown always loses at Colgate, we're looking at winnable points against Princeton, Colgate, Yale, and RPI. That's a max of 8 points. Assuming Brown would win all four of those, that gives them 16 on the year. Last year, 16 points was good enough for the 11 seed, but I get the feeling that 16 points might place a team in the 9-10 range this year.

My biggest problem right now with Brown is that as well as they're playing, they're going to absolutely HAVE to sweep Princeton and beat RPI. Colgate is a toss-up, and Yale is a good team that Brown historically can play well against. Still, I don't know that the Bears can hang with them. I don't think Princeton is nearly good enough to be considered a 5 seed, and I didn't think RPI would be where they are in the standings. But Princeton also has already passed through the toughest parts of the schedule, and their road trips left include winnable games at Harvard and the north country. So they could finish in the middle of the pack.

Realistically, if Brown wants to get a home series, they're going to need to beat Princeton twice, beat RPI, and then either take points from the Cornell/Colgate trip or beat Yale (or both). If they can somehow get 10 points, they'll also own tiebreakers over Princeton, who they might be near in the standings, and Colgate, who they also might be near. That's huge and will probably position Brown as the 8-seed, hosting a team like St. Lawrence or Clarkson.

If Brown does not get the 8-10 points, however, then they're looking at probably finishing in the 10-12 area. Since they hold tiebreakers over Clarkson and Harvard, they could end up as the 10, which puts them on the road at one of these places - Colgate, Clarkson, RPI. Bummer.

The margin for error right now is razor thin.
 
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Re: Brown Hockey 2012-2013:Climbing the ECAC Ladder

Hey, like I said- on paper, it looks tough. But don't be surprised by a couple of big upsets. Whittet is willing this team to play good hockey right now, and he's not willing them to finish in 11th place again. I have a feeling about this team that I simply haven't had in...well, almost a decade. On paper, they're outmatched by almost everyone in the league. But they find a way to get points out of difficult games, and I think they'll find a way to spring an upset or two.

Yes, the margin for error is razor thin, but there's nothing to lose. And nobody believes in us. That's a perfect formula for an overachieving team.
 
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.... But Princeton also has already passed through the toughest parts of the schedule, and their road trips left include winnable games at Harvard and the north country. ....

Princeton plays the North Coountry at Hobey Baker Rink.
 
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So good news! Unless they pick up a win or a tie at some poitn down the stretch, the Sacred Heart Pioneers are on pace to eclipse the previous worst season in NCAA history. Sacred Heart has 11 games left on an 0-21-2 season. If they lose them all, the 0-32-2 season would eclipse the previous worst mark of 1-25-0 held by......... the 1988-1989 Bears. Bob Gaudet's first year was a doozy now wasn't it. I say SHU puts up the worst season of all time as long as they lose their next 4 games. That would make them 0-25-2, which would be an official mark worse than Brown (kind of like Maris breaking Ruth's record in 154 games instead of 162).

I haven't been able to find a worse record, and even Alabama-Huntsville's 2 win season a year ago was markedly better than Brown that year. But it's worth something to keep an eye on.
 
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The margin for error right now is razor thin.

I think Brown has a realistic shot at 8th place, and then a win in first round gives them momentum to take next round. 8th will turn into a fight with Colgate. H, I think you are underestimating RPI. The Engineers are dangerous, especially with Kasdorf in goal, but, having said that, RPI has had its Hekyll and Hyde moments and its coach seems to me to be one that can't keep it playing consistent hockey.

Anyways, this weekend is a doable 4 points. Cornell has lost a major contributor for the season and Iles has been beatable. Ryan can beat him as shown by his game last weekend. Colgate is a potential win by a goal with Brown playing solid D. Pfeil will be a a plus. BTW, is Wahl playing this weekend?
 
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Drove down to Hamilton to see the Colgate game. Though a loss, I did not come back completely disappointed.

Brown's defense was terrific. First, Borelli had a great game. He made several outstanding saves. He is on a roll. The Dmen played another great game. Goldberg was rock solid. Hard to believe he never played D before. Robertson seems to have gotten the gremlins out of his system that had been reappearing every now and then. He played mistake free against C, as he did the week before against Harvard. The 5 man rotation Brendan is using is working quite well. D is clearly the strongest part of Brown's game.

Brown's offense was frustrating, Lots of opportunities created by sharp passing and outhustling Colgate to the puck but Brown just could not finish. One of these days I hope the close calls become goals. Mark N seems ready to bust out soon. Following Jeff Ryan closely with Brunofan's comments on his play on my mind, Jeff had a terrific game. He was all over the ice and in many ways makes Lorito even better.

But at then another one goal loss with a power play goal the difference. Unless some more goals are forthcoming this trend may continue. However, some isigns of this happening are present, namely, the passion of its play and its never give-up attitude.

Having just seen the Cornell score, Brown 3 C 0, I am not surprised having seen the Colgate game. While I thought Brown would beat Colgate but not so sure about Cornell, I am not surprised by the win and Borelli's shut out based on what I saw at Colgate.

Two points next week are a must.
 
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We need to continue to get two points a week and then sweep RPI and Union, which is a tough task. But this team hasn't buckled yet and I can't foresee it doing so anytime soon.

In Whittet We Trust.
 
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Any idea what the crowd might be like tomorrow. This might be my first trip to Meehan when the students are around... do they usually show up for Friday games?
 
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Any idea what the crowd might be like tomorrow. This might be my first trip to Meehan when the students are around... do they usually show up for Friday games?

Not sure of the crowd size, I would make it a point not to sit behind the Quinnipiac bench. The student hecklers the last time I was there were distractingly annoying.
 
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Any idea what the crowd might be like tomorrow. This might be my first trip to Meehan when the students are around... do they usually show up for Friday games?

Is the Athletics Dept doing something to get the students to the game? Although this game should be a good one, unfortunately that alone does not draw a crowd.
 
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Thanks to kdiff77 for coining my headline for this... a little something put together about Brown so far this year.

http://excalibursportspage.com/2013/01/31/in-whittet-we-trust/


Great piece, but a couple of minor corrections.

1. When Brown lost Widman, it was against Harvard, not Princeton.
2. We Brown posters weren't pulling hair, the coach's hair, or each other's hair. We were more looking for the match, while someone else held the can of gasoline, for a wonderful conflagration of self-immolation.

I've never actually used an emoticon, but I almost feel compelled to do so in tribute to Brownie68. (Where, or where, has he gone?)

The thesis, at its heart, has left me more convinced that Brendan Whittet is a terrific hockey coach. To watch the players' development, cast against the backdrop of the deeply personal nature of every game, means that the Bears usually have a shot. Their problem(s) come when one or more aspects of the game doesn't come through (i.e. goals are scored, but a soft goal plagues them early).
 
Re: Brown Hockey 2012-2013:Climbing the ECAC Ladder

Great piece, but a couple of minor corrections.

1. When Brown lost Widman, it was against Harvard, not Princeton.
2. We Brown posters weren't pulling hair, the coach's hair, or each other's hair. We were more looking for the match, while someone else held the can of gasoline, for a wonderful conflagration of self-immolation.

I've never actually used an emoticon, but I almost feel compelled to do so in tribute to Brownie68. (Where, or where, has he gone?)

The thesis, at its heart, has left me more convinced that Brendan Whittet is a terrific hockey coach. To watch the players' development, cast against the backdrop of the deeply personal nature of every game, means that the Bears usually have a shot. Their problem(s) come when one or more aspects of the game doesn't come through (i.e. goals are scored, but a soft goal plagues them early).

Thanks for the correction - admittedly, my research came up a little blank on the Widman injury when I was looking into it. I couldn't find a concrete report that said he was injured so I more or less had to ballpark it rather than pore over all 30 pages of this thread.

I, for one, would love to see Brown pull a two-point weekend. As I'm sure many of you can assume, I've been following this season with great interest and a keen eye towards what's been going on from my perch up here in Waltham.
 
Thanks for the correction - admittedly, my research came up a little blank on the Widman injury when I was looking into it. I couldn't find a concrete report that said he was injured so I more or less had to ballpark it rather than pore over all 30 pages of this thread.

I, for one, would love to see Brown pull a two-point weekend. As I'm sure many of you can assume, I've been following this season with great interest and a keen eye towards what's been going on from my perch up here in Waltham.

Mark Divver of the Providence Journal is reporting that Wahl will be back, but Zaire's is out.

A full complement of players will not be seen until October 2013.
 
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Mark Divver of the Providence Journal is reporting that Wahl will be back, but Zaire's is out.

A full complement of players will not be seen until October 2013.

Bruno - Thanks for the update. While it's great that Wahl's back, losing Zaires hurts in terms of depth and leadership. Although with the way the offense has been playing, I think it's more imperative that Wahl be in the lineup than Zaires. The defense needs Wahl right now a heckuva lot more than the offense needs Zaires.

As for your last remark, the only fitting end to the Roger Grillo era would be if you tried to self-immolate, but instead missed with the match and singed all the hair on a part of your body I can't mention in a forum thread. The pain = immeasurable. The sick pleasure with which you were forced to laugh about the fact that "of course you missed and hit yourself in the nads with a flaming hot blowtorch?" = priceless
 
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