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Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

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BREAKING: Parliament has voted that the calendar will go from 28 March to 30 March, bypassing 29 March. At 11:59 pm on the 28th all clocks in the UK will advance 25 hours.
 
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ticapnews said:
BREAKING: Parliament has voted that the calendar will go from 28 March to 30 March, bypassing 29 March. At 11:59 pm on the 28th all clocks in the UK will advance 25 hours.
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LOL. This is great. Yours?

Reminds me of a joke from elementary school.

A (enter ethnicity here) family is driving down a mountain when the brakes fail. The father turns to his wife and says, "Nothing to worry about. At the bottom there's a stop sign."
 
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Kepler said:
That's a weird vote. It's like while you're falling you vote to not hit the ground.

Are they just trying to rig a democratic fig leaf before they blow off the referendum and tell the people they're too dumb to have self-determination? Like putting a 5150 on an entire country?
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No, it’s an opposition measure designed to keep the PM from driving them off a cliff with no deal.

Edit: It also comes with the bonus of driving a wedge into the Conservative Party and hopefully forcing a General Election.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
No, it’s an opposition measure designed to keep the PM from driving them off a cliff with no deal.

Edit: It also comes with the bonus of driving a wedge into the Conservative Party and hopefully forcing a General Election.
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I thought Labour was split on this, too, between the Oxbridgian technocrats who understand economics and the rank and file Life in a Northern Town types who want to stick it to those conniving Belgians with their "anthropological features."
 
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Kepler said:
I thought Labour was split on this, too, between the Oxbridgian technocrats who understand economics and the rank and file Life in a Northern Town types who want to stick it to those conniving Belgians with their "anthropological features."
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When it comes to Brexit there is no party unity. Even Jeremy Corbyn is a Brexiteer who has fought against a second referendum almost as much as May. It was humorous to watch an interview on Channel 4 in Britain where the reporter asked members of the new "Independent Group" what they agreed on apart from Brexit and they couldn't name a single thing.
 
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May ought to just call the bluff of her so-called supporters to either support the deal as written or she'll call a general election! I have no idea if the Tories, Labour, or 3rd parties would benefit, but the beauty of this plan is neither does anybody else. Right now there's no skin in the game for PM's. They can take absurd votes to reject a deal AND reject leaving without a deal, which are mutually exclusive goals. May's career is already over however this plays out. Push all your chips to the middle of the table and go for broke!!!
 
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Yeah, at some point May has to realize this is an impossible battle and she’s being led to slaughter.

She’s not a true believer, I don’t think. I would also like to believe she understands she’s going to be voted out regardless of the outcome. So at some point she has to do what’s best for all parties regardless of whether they want it.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Yeah, at some point May has to realize this is an impossible battle and she’s being led to slaughter.

She’s not a true believer, I don’t think. I would also like to believe she understands she’s going to be voted out regardless of the outcome. So at some point she has to do what’s best for all parties regardless of whether they want it.
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She's a Remainer but has championed Brexit as PM (although Jacob Rees Mogg and his pals will never trust her) and she has already said she will not stand for election when her term is up. She is the definition of a Lame Duck so she can really do whatever she likes.
 
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Problem for May with calling an election is it runs a huge risk of handing the UK over to Corbyn and all the nationalization that he can muster, something the Conservatives certainly don’t want.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Problem for May with calling an election is it runs a huge risk of handing the UK over to Corbyn and all the nationalization that he can muster, something the Conservatives certainly don’t want.
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That's why you do it! Either 1) vote for the deal or 2) risk handing the govt over to Corbyn. Vote on deal comes first. If its a no then snap election.
 
Rover said:
That's why you do it! Either 1) vote for the deal or 2) risk handing the govt over to Corbyn. Vote on deal comes first. If its a no then snap election.
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Because she’s already tried the blackmail approach and it blew up in her face.
 
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Rover said:
That's why you do it! Either 1) vote for the deal or 2) risk handing the govt over to Corbyn. Vote on deal comes first. If its a no then snap election.
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Yeah, but she doesn't want it either. She wants one of her people to succeed her; not Boris Johnson, not JRM and certainly not Corbyn or anyone from Labour.
 
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Go big or go home. May has no other cards to play here. Who succeeds her is out of her hands at this point so that shouldn't be part of her considerations.
 
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She ought to go in there, cancel the Article 50, resign, and go on vacation for six months. Her political career is over anyway.
 
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Rover said:
Go big or go home. May has no other cards to play here. Who succeeds her is out of her hands at this point so that shouldn't be part of her considerations.
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It isn't like she can handpick her successor, but she can improve the odds that it is someone she likes. But the future is always in motion and difficult to predict.

I still would put £5 on her just rescinding Article 50 and telling Nigel and Boris to suck an egg.
 
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I think she should basically tell the MP's: either approve a second referendum (thereby giving the people a first chance at an informed vote), or I'll cancel it outright.
 
Kepler said:
LOL. This is great. Yours?

Reminds me of a joke from elementary school.

A (enter ethnicity here) family is driving down a mountain when the brakes fail. The father turns to his wife and says, "Nothing to worry about. At the bottom there's a stop sign."
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This has to have been a Polish joke.
 
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