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Boston University season thread 4: Where BC comes to talk hockey

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pirate said:
I completely understand not having football, as expensive as it is. Hard to believe the school is better off killing something like wrestling to save what amounts to a rounding error in the budget
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I haven't looked into this enough to know which side of the argument I stand, however:

I think BU was getting to the point where in order to keep the program they were going to need to completely overhaul the facilities, and the reason BU is the top program in New England is almost solely attributed to the coach, who is nearing retirement age. So when the sport is about to require a large infusion of money for renovations, and even with that performance would be expected to drop in the near future, for a non revenue sport... it is far from the most absurd decision an athletic department has made.
 
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Agganis said:
I haven't looked into this enough to know which side of the argument I stand, however:

I think BU was getting to the point where in order to keep the program they were going to need to completely overhaul the facilities, and the reason BU is the top program in New England is almost solely attributed to the coach, who is nearing retirement age. So when the sport is about to require a large infusion of money for renovations, and even with that performance would be expected to drop in the near future, for a non revenue sport... it is far from the most absurd decision an athletic department has made.
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The facilities point possibly makes some sense... why didn't they incorporate some space for wrestling during the whole athletic department re-do? It makes me think this has been on their minds for a while. In reality none of our sports are revenue sports (with the possible exception of hockey)... so all in all I think it is a weak decision by the athletic department (or whoever made the final call on it).

I know they are working on saving the program. BU cut the crew programs in the 80's as well, and the alums and others stepped up to save them. Hopefully the same happens for Wrestling.
 
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ericredaxe said:
The facilities point possibly makes some sense... why didn't they incorporate some space for wrestling during the whole athletic department re-do? It makes me think this has been on their minds for a while. In reality none of our sports are revenue sports (with the possible exception of hockey)... so all in all I think it is a weak decision by the athletic department (or whoever made the final call on it).

I know they are working on saving the program. BU cut the crew programs in the 80's as well, and the alums and others stepped up to save them. Hopefully the same happens for Wrestling.
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Hockey is a revenue sport, at least in the sense of it's not in the red according to the few figures that have been released over the years. I would hope they're at least cutting wrestling in favor of something else, perhaps baseball, since they denied Title IX as a reason for axing the wrestling program.
 
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brassbonanza said:
Hockey is a revenue sport, at least in the sense of it's not in the red according to the few figures that have been released over the years. I would hope they're at least cutting wrestling in favor of something else, perhaps baseball, since they denied Title IX as a reason for axing the wrestling program.
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It would seem that baseball would be a far more revenue-intensive sport. There's no field on which to play, and equipment is a bit more than wrestling gear. Plus, the early season is basically in the south. Has men's lacrosse been funded yet?
 
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ericredaxe said:
The facilities point possibly makes some sense... why didn't they incorporate some space for wrestling during the whole athletic department re-do? It makes me think this has been on their minds for a while. In reality none of our sports are revenue sports (with the possible exception of hockey)... so all in all I think it is a weak decision by the athletic department (or whoever made the final call on it).

I know they are working on saving the program. BU cut the crew programs in the 80's as well, and the alums and others stepped up to save them. Hopefully the same happens for Wrestling.
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As far as I know BU has been renovating different parts of the facility at different times, it's not like there was ever a year Case, or even one floor or wing of Case, was gutted and completely redone. Had they done that and skipped the wrestling area that'd convince me it had been on their minds for a while. Now I can't tell, maybe it was, but I don't have enough evidence to persuade myself of it.

Also I should have used a word other than revenue, because by that logic we would have a men's hockey department not an athletic department. I meant a sport that is a draw. Sure basketball, soccer, and lacrosse don't get good attendance figures at all, but they are visible parts of the school. Honestly, if I didn't know a kid who shared my major and was on the wrestling team I'm not sure I would have known BU had a wrestling team before this announcement. I'd hear more about women's golf than wrestling, I'm not even kidding about that. I wonder if the Olympics dumping wrestling impacted BU's decision at all.
 
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I take back what I said a few pages back that "BU could have been Yale." Man, are they fun to watch. Their power play is a thing of beauty.

I'm all in on the Bulldogs! Go Ylae!!!

Last ECAC team in a final was Colgate in 1990. :(
 
brassbonanza said:
...., since they denied Title IX as a reason for axing the wrestling program.
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Mookie always spots some potential wwe divas on campus. He would be the initial Friends of Women's Wrestling if so required ;)

(And yes this could become a revenue sport :D)
 
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I frequently wonder why more women don't post here :p
 
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Bomber said:
I take back what I said a few pages back that "BU could have been Yale." Man, are they fun to watch. Their power play is a thing of beauty.

I'm all in on the Bulldogs! Go Ylae!!!

Last ECAC team in a final was Colgate in 1990. :(
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I recently re-read a write-up from that game (keep an eye out for a story on that year's team on the fan blog shortly - not by me). Parker pretty much attirbuted that loss to Gagnon (the Colgate goalie), saying that he was the reason that their comeback magic ran out. Somehow, I didn't even see McEachern's shot hit the post.
 
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defkit said:
I recently re-read a write-up from that game (keep an eye out for a story on that year's team on the fan blog shortly - not by me). Parker pretty much attirbuted that loss to Gagnon (the Colgate goalie), saying that he was the reason that their comeback magic ran out. Somehow, I didn't even see McEachern's shot hit the post.
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The newest "Terriers Tale" epic from mh82 (aka the Doris Kearns Goodwin of The Terrier Hockey Fan Blog) should be posted early next week. It'll include video of the quarterfinal series vs. Michigan State. If any knows of any video of the Colgate game, it'd be much appreciated.

A few of the other Terrier Tales he's written that are posted on the blog:
The Drive for Five (08-09)
A Few Good Men (96-97)
One Glove and Two Caroms Shy of a Load (90-91)
BU's First Hockey East Champions (85-86)
That Championship Season (77-78)
 
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Rogie21 said:
The newest "Terriers Tale" epic from mh82 (aka the Doris Kearns Goodwin of The Terrier Hockey Fan Blog) should be posted early next week. It'll include video of the quarterfinal series vs. Michigan State. If any knows of any video of the Colgate game, it'd be much appreciated.

A few of the other Terrier Tales he's written that are posted on the blog:
The Drive for Five (08-09)
A Few Good Men (96-97)
One Glove and Two Caroms Shy of a Load (90-91)
BU's First Hockey East Champions (85-86)
That Championship Season (77-78)
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Sounds like you are soliciting (or perhaps mh82 is) naming ideas for this one....

Let's see:
Excellence Returns
3 (Amonte) is the Magic Number
"I Think We Found Ourselves a Goaltender"
One Step Back, Two Steps Forward (3 Games Series)
 
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defkit, what was the score of the 1991 National Semi? I remember 7-2. (Amonte went off.) Someone posted a link to an article with all of the ECAC participants since 1989 and had the score as 3-2. Wrong!
 
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Bomber said:
defkit, what was the score of the 1991 National Semi? I remember 7-2. (Amonte went off.) Someone posted a link to an article with all of the ECAC participants since 1989 and had the score as 3-2. Wrong!
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It was 7-3 over Clarkson and, yes, Amonte had a hat trick in the first period as BU put up a five-spot in the first period against defkit's favorite Golden Knights goalie, Chris Rogles.

In four NCAA games, BU scored 26 goals: 4-1 and 8-1 vs. Michigan in the quarters, 7-3 semi, 7-8 final. And that was after 18 goals in three HE tournament games.
 
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Rogie21 said:
It was 7-3 over Clarkson and, yes, Amonte had a hat trick in the first period as BU put up a five-spot in the first period against defkit's favorite Golden Knights goalie, Chris Rogles.

In four NCAA games, BU scored 26 goals: 4-1 and 8-1 vs. Michigan in the quarters, 7-3 semi, 7-8 final. And that was after 18 goals in three HE tournament games.
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Rogles reminded me recently that Clarkson was coming off an emotional upset of #1 seed LSSU, in SSM (pretty similar to us beating MSU the year before - nobody expected Clarkson to win). He said they were so wiped out after that series and the turnaround was so quick (remember they didn't skip a week back then. In fact, during the title game against NMU, Tom Mees (RIP) mentions Duke's big upset of UNLV in the basketball semifinal.)

Clarkson scored on BU in the first minute of the game before Amonte, McEachern and company stormed back. I still feel that a goal that early in the game can be a curse - the scoring team thinks the game will be easy and the other team is wakes up pretty quick. It happened to us in the Beanpot final that year too - Harvard scored very quickly, and BU went on to win in a big way.
 
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Bomber said:
I take back what I said a few pages back that "BU could have been Yale." Man, are they fun to watch. Their power play is a thing of beauty.
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Yale really exposed Lowell's lack of offensive power. We've talked extensively on these boards of the boring style that Lowell plays. It was never more evident to me than last nights game. Yale just had so much more speed and offensive ability. They were exciting to watch. And yet somehow, they rarely were caught out of position. That is what I want to see at BU with the new regime.
 
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2 more goals for Chiasson. Thats 5 goals and one assist in 5 games. It obviously helps that he is playing with Benn and Ray Whitney, but he has certainly taken advantage of the opportunity.
 
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How many days now until practice :p

(And can we get some skating cheerleaders :D. Thanks!)
 
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