ColinWilsonFan
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Sure whatever you say ....
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Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
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Sure whatever you say ....
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
Yeah something apparently is broken and needs to be fixed and fast. Multiple players leaving early because of lack of coaching according to Cohen and his comments will absolutely spread through the small hockey world. Hockey Ops resigns. What can BU do at this point??? They better move quick and fix these issues before commits start decommiting or there is going to be a lot of rough times ahead for a looooong time. Next year looks like a total mess.
Cut the program? LOL......Who knows but I'd be very concerned about the direction they are heading right now and this should be eye opening for future potential recruits especially ones that haven't signed their NLI yet.
Yeah something apparently is broken and needs to be fixed and fast. Multiple players leaving early because of lack of coaching according to Cohen and his comments will absolutely spread through the small hockey world. Hockey Ops resigns. What can BU do at this point??? They better move quick and fix these issues before commits start decommiting or there is going to be a lot of rough times ahead for a looooong time. Next year looks like a total mess.
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Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
Well can you be more specific then? If you're going to refute others' opinions without saying why then tell us what you know. Or don't say anything.
(you sound like HokeyDad)
Sure whatever you say ....
Well can you be more specific then? If you're going to refute others' opinions without saying why then tell us what you know. Or don't say anything.
(you sound like HokeyDad)
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brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
He's welcome to refute my opinion on the matter, but I have from a very trusted source that Jake is on track to graduate. So if he wants to refute that a 1st round pick who played 3 years, worked to graduate early, and has become one of the best in the nation at his position is leaving solely because his coaching is bad, I'm all ears.
Well can you be more specific then? If you're going to refute others opinions without saying why then tell us what you know. Or don't say anything.
He's welcome to refute my opinion on the matter, but I have from a very trusted source that Jake is on track to graduate. So if he wants to refute that a 1st round pick who played 3 years, worked to graduate early, and has become one of the best in the nation at his position is leaving solely because his coaching is bad, I'm all ears.
ColinWilsonFan
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Well can you be more specific then? If you're going to refute others opinions without saying why then tell us what you know. Or don't say anything.
I’m allowed to disagree ... Having the degree gave him the option need be .. that doesn’t mean he was leaving ... you can’t make that assumption
ColinWilsonFan
Registered User
He's welcome to refute my opinion on the matter, but I have from a very trusted source that Jake is on track to graduate. So if he wants to refute that a 1st round pick who played 3 years, worked to graduate early, and has become one of the best in the nation at his position is leaving solely because his coaching is bad, I'm all ears.
I don’t have to refute anything ...
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
I'm not talking about the "disagreeing." I'm talking about the accusations against the coaching staff (in your words: "as I have been saying for a while there is way more here than people just moving on"). Nothing worse than teasing people and then essentially saying, "Well, I can't tell you THAT."
I’m allowed to disagree ... Having the degree gave him the option need be .. that doesn’t mean he was leaving ... you can’t make that assumption
I'm not talking about the "disagreeing." I'm talking about the accusations against the coaching staff (in your words: "as I have been saying for a while there is way more here than people just moving on"). Nothing worse than teasing people and then essentially saying, "Well, I can't tell you THAT."
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
Unfortunately without knowing specific reasons behind a resignation, some here are very quick to make assumptions and jump to conclusions that may or may not be accurate.
Unfortunately without knowing specific reasons behind a resignation, some here are very quick to make assumptions and jump to conclusions that may or may not be accurate.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
Does anyone know the specifics of what the Director of Hockey Ops role is tasked with doing? Wondering if the position has any player coaching responsibilities or is more on the coordination side.
Does anyone know the specifics of what the Director of Hockey Ops role is tasked with doing? Wondering if the position has any player coaching responsibilities or is more on the coordination side.
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
From BU site:
As a manager, Miller worked closely with the coaching staff, analyzing statistics and ice-time during games. She helped organize and manage travel accommodations and meals on team trips in addition to taking care of all ticket requests and assisting with the program’s social media accounts.
Does anyone know the specifics of what the Director of Hockey Ops role is tasked with doing? Wondering if the position has any player coaching responsibilities or is more on the coordination side.
From BU site:
As a manager, Miller worked closely with the coaching staff, analyzing statistics and ice-time during games. She helped organize and manage travel accommodations and meals on team trips in addition to taking care of all ticket requests and assisting with the program’s social media accounts.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
I believe that blurb is in reference to her prior role as the team manager.
From BU site:
As a manager, Miller worked closely with the coaching staff, analyzing statistics and ice-time during games. She helped organize and manage travel accommodations and meals on team trips in addition to taking care of all ticket requests and assisting with the program’s social media accounts.
I believe that blurb is in reference to her prior role as the team manager.
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
You are correct. Thats all that I could find.
I believe that blurb is in reference to her prior role as the team manager.
You are correct. Thats all that I could find.
ColinWilsonFan
Registered User
I'm not talking about the "disagreeing." I'm talking about the accusations against the coaching staff (in your words: "as I have been saying for a while there is way more here than people just moving on"). Nothing worse than teasing people and then essentially saying, "Well, I can't tell you THAT."
It’s not about teasing if you know the sport and all the stuff involved guys are not leaving to go play in the AHL if they have an opportunity to play at s high level D1 program ... so outside of Fabbro that will be the case ...I’m not convinced oettinger was leaving ... as for not jumping to conclusions as it relates to the hockey ops resignation I don’t see how one cannnot , given what’s happened this week rather than make excuses those who support and love this program should want solutions not excuses ... I’ll say it again Colby Cohen didn’t publicly say what he said to be dramatic there are likely good reasons he did I’m just looking at the facts out there staring us all in the face
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
I don't disagree there are clear issues with the program that need to be addressed. I would also not be surprised if this is not the only coaching staff change that takes place this offseason. Colby's comments are absolutely concerning, though it's worth considering he's not directly tied into the program anymore so you have to wonder how much context he has. Additionally, his comments were with respect to Farabee as a PHI prospect, and Colby is employed as a studio analyst for the Flyers pre/post games so he has competing incentives there. Again, not that he's necessarily wrong, but his words shouldn't be taken as 100% gospel.
I don't agree that players leaving for an AHL deal is as black and white as it seems, though it's generally not a good sign. I do agree that, in most cases, playing in the AHL is a better position for player development than a D1 program. Jake's starting out in the AHL because they want him to play games and he's not going to displace Bishop/Khudobin right now. Of course the trajectory is not the same for a goalie as it is for a skater.
It’s not about teasing if you know the sport and all the stuff involved guys are not leaving to go play in the AHL if they have an opportunity to play at s high level D1 program ... so outside of Fabbro that will be the case ...I’m not convinced oettinger was leaving ... as for not jumping to conclusions as it relates to the hockey ops resignation I don’t see how one cannnot , given what’s happened this week rather than make excuses those who support and love this program should want solutions not excuses ... I’ll say it again Colby Cohen didn’t publicly say what he said to be dramatic there are likely good reasons he did I’m just looking at the facts out there staring us all in the face
I don't disagree there are clear issues with the program that need to be addressed. I would also not be surprised if this is not the only coaching staff change that takes place this offseason. Colby's comments are absolutely concerning, though it's worth considering he's not directly tied into the program anymore so you have to wonder how much context he has. Additionally, his comments were with respect to Farabee as a PHI prospect, and Colby is employed as a studio analyst for the Flyers pre/post games so he has competing incentives there. Again, not that he's necessarily wrong, but his words shouldn't be taken as 100% gospel.
I don't agree that players leaving for an AHL deal is as black and white as it seems, though it's generally not a good sign. I do agree that, in most cases, playing in the AHL is a better position for player development than a D1 program. Jake's starting out in the AHL because they want him to play games and he's not going to displace Bishop/Khudobin right now. Of course the trajectory is not the same for a goalie as it is for a skater.
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
Players literally do this all the time (Ian McCoshen, Danton Heinen, and Brian Strait are examples off the top off my head), because they think moving to the next level is what is best for their long term career path (or maybe they want to make money for a change).
guys are not leaving to go play in the AHL if they have an opportunity to play at s high level D1 program
Players literally do this all the time (Ian McCoshen, Danton Heinen, and Brian Strait are examples off the top off my head), because they think moving to the next level is what is best for their long term career path (or maybe they want to make money for a change).
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
So you're speculating...I mean, you can't have it both ways. Either you KNOW something or you're guessing.
It’s not about teasing if you know the sport and all the stuff involved guys are not leaving to go play in the AHL if they have an opportunity to play at s high level D1 program ... so outside of Fabbro that will be the case ...I’m not convinced oettinger was leaving ... as for not jumping to conclusions as it relates to the hockey ops resignation I don’t see how one cannnot , given what’s happened this week rather than make excuses those who support and love this program should want solutions not excuses ... I’ll say it again Colby Cohen didn’t publicly say what he said to be dramatic there are likely good reasons he did I’m just looking at the facts out there staring us all in the face
So you're speculating...I mean, you can't have it both ways. Either you KNOW something or you're guessing.
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
From a first-hand source, I can tell you that the Stars management wanted Jake to sign last Spring, but agreed to wait one more year. And a friend who sat next to Jake's parents at an early-season game learned the same information about his graduation track and plans to turn pro after this season. Stars signed Colgate's Colton Point last Spring and he had a disappointing season, primarily in the ECHL so Dallas was even more anxious to get their expected successor to Bishop into the team's development system.
From a first-hand source, I can tell you that the Stars management wanted Jake to sign last Spring, but agreed to wait one more year. And a friend who sat next to Jake's parents at an early-season game learned the same information about his graduation track and plans to turn pro after this season. Stars signed Colgate's Colton Point last Spring and he had a disappointing season, primarily in the ECHL so Dallas was even more anxious to get their expected successor to Bishop into the team's development system.
ColinWilsonFan
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Players literally do this all the time (Ian McCoshen, Danton Heinen, and Brian Strait are examples off the top off my head), because they think moving to the next level is what is best for their long term career path (or maybe they want to make money for a change).
Each of those examples have different sets of circumstance (what teams promised them , burning of elc , winning a national championship etc) guys leaving off the year BU had and each with less that stellar seasons (outside of Fabbro and oettinger -farabee had a nice second half but has a lot of growth needed in many ways ) does give pause (Heinen was a stud coming off national championship for example )
ColinWilsonFan
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So you're speculating...I mean, you can't have it both ways. Either you KNOW something or you're guessing.
If you say so .....
Re: Boston University 2018-2019 - Still Alive!
So you’ve been posting on this board for what? Teo weeks? Clearly you are only here to intimate something, as evidenced by that sarcastic response. You’re not going to tell us. Fine. I’ll believe it when it happens then.
So you’ve been posting on this board for what? Teo weeks? Clearly you are only here to intimate something, as evidenced by that sarcastic response. You’re not going to tell us. Fine. I’ll believe it when it happens then.