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Boston University 2011-2012 Season Thread Part Deux

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Harry Cleverly said:
As times have changed, the coach is no longer the be all, and end all of players' college existences. There are certain rules and guidelines that even veteran, iconic coaches like Parker, York, Boeheim, Saban and Miles have to follow.

Coaches still have the power of discipline within their own programs. But how much control, or power, should have they outside of their team structures? Where does their responsibilities end, and the players' own responsibilities take over? And what of the school? And the players' own families?

Athletes that can accept responsibility for themselves tend to be the ones that rise in the ranks to leadership positions. If they can help guide and lead teammates, they become captains.

Athletes have a responsibility to their team, teammates, school, coaches and families. They will either put in the effort and sacrifice and maximize their talents, or they won't. And there are a lot of people trying to help them along that path to success. The threat to take that all away is the most powerful tool that a coach has in his arsenal of discipline. And you are correct - if it has to be used, it hurts everyone.

A coach needs to have the courage to make that threat, and to back it up.

Parker drew that line in the sand for Trivino, and he crossed it. And Parker backed it up by doing exactly what he said he would do. Short of an intervention (which others have posted would need to come from his family), it appears that Parker used the strongest tool of discipline that is at a coaches discretion to use in this time we live in.
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chickod said:
Because, as has been reiterated ad nauseum on this thread, you CAN'T make somebody do something they don't want to do! Why do we keep analyzing this to death? In one breath, there are all these comments that "Parker doesn't resonate with today's players" and then in the next breath they say he is supposed to magically solve all their problems by "telling" them what to do?? Listen to yourselves!!! Jeez...enough already. :confused:
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Yes, enough already both of your single minded approach to how Parker runs the program makes you incapable of distinguishing what I'm saying to what you believe. No harm no foul. If you think Parker has similar enduring relationships with his players of today that are similary to yesteyear that is fine. I KNOW he doesn't and don't feel a need to convince you.

As to the handling of Trivino, I've never said Jack has the ability to "cure" or force Trivino to deal with his apparent drinking issue. I just believe there was a better way to deal with it. Again no harm no foul. I respect that you are entitle to your opinion as well.
 
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SteveF said:
wow coyle's bu career really took a DIVE. i'm glad the freep was so on top of this story. very professional
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I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to you, but what exactly was the Freep supposed to do differently? They talked to him and he said he was staying. Are they supposed to not report what he says?
 
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There was never a question. I wouldnt have posted it if I didnt know it was true.
 
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Federal League said:
I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to you, but what exactly was the Freep supposed to do differently? They talked to him and he said he was staying. Are they supposed to not report what he says?
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I can assure you of one thing, Fed knew about it but has to much class not to report it until he had the facts... That is what a good reporter does..
 
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Federal League said:
I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to you, but what exactly was the Freep supposed to do differently? They talked to him and he said he was staying. Are they supposed to not report what he says?
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Big difference between reporting that "Coyle denies" the rumor or something to that effect and saying "that rumor is false as of right now". It wasn't false. So... DFP was wrong.

It's obvious Coyle has a reason to lie about it if he doesn't want news of it to get out for a few days.
 
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Hokydad said:
I can assure you of one think, Fed knew about it but has to much class not to report it until he had the facts... That is what a good reporter does..
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I don't see any problem with the Freep reporting facts. The fact was "Charlie said this." What he said might have been a boldfaced lie, but it's still true that he said it, right? I'm glad they didn't jump to conclusions and start reporting the rumors instead actually.
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Big difference between reporting that "Coyle denies" the rumor or something to that effect and saying "that rumor is false as of right now". It wasn't false. So... DFP was wrong.

It's obvious Coyle has a reason to lie about it if he doesn't want news of it to get out for a few days.
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The rumor that he had already left (which is what they were responding to) was in fact false as of when they tweeted that. I was working on this story all day yesterday and knew quite a bit about what was going on, as Hokydad just alluded to. If the tweet said "Coyle will leave" or "is leaving," it would be a different story. But the tweet from the BC blog was that he was already gone. That was not accurate as of then. The Freep didn't do anything wrong here.
 
Federal League said:
I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to you, but what exactly was the Freep supposed to do differently? They talked to him and he said he was staying. Are they supposed to not report what he says?
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They could have vehemently denied it and then claimed they knew all along like you are doing! There is still time for them
 
Federal League said:
Where did I "vehemently deny" anything? Here's my twitter timeline: https://twitter.com/#!/smclaughlin9. Knock yourself out.
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Clever but I'm refering to how you went after the kid breaking the rumor about who his source was and what team he was going to. Told him he couldn't just report things.

Then today you just recite exactly what he said anyway and claim it as your own.

If you knew what he knew then, you wouldn't have questioned him like that.

Edit: I can't find the post where you said something stupid like "there are multiple schools in Canada named st johns". I'm sure you deleted it to cover your tracks and continue to misrepresent yourself here. But the blogger wrote back "in the q"

https://mobile.twitter.com/bchockeyblog1/status/147406293529931777

I wonder why he would write that
 
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Sheesh! What happened during Northeastern's summer break pales in comparison to what's happening on your winter break.
 
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Federal League said:
The rumor that he had already left (which is what they were responding to) was in fact false as of when they tweeted that. I was working on this story all day yesterday and knew quite a bit about what was going on, as Hokydad just alluded to. If the tweet said "Coyle will leave" or "is leaving," it would be a different story. But the tweet from the BC blog was that he was already gone. That was not accurate as of then. The Freep didn't do anything wrong here.
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OK your defense is kind of like "it depends on what the definition of is is" to quote a former President Since BU is done playing hockey again until New Years I would say he was gone as soon as he made the decision.
 
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