Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with us?

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Hockey East semis and the final also are on NBCSN, according to the Hockey East site. Not sure if that's just for outside of NESN territory.

Interesting...I would have to think that the "territorial" blackout rules apply here. I have DirecTV and MANY times when games are on two channels we only can see one.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

I hear you, I fall into that category of alums who go, and we're the ones who get told to sit down and shut up at Agganis because we're being "obnoxious". That was at a Maine game this season, too. I wish more came out, but I think many are priced out by Agganis ticket prices. $32 a ticket last night is a ripoff.

Well, that's my point. Not to get political, but it's the same "elitist" snobs that think it's beneath them to "cheer." My question is, why do they even bother to go to a game? If you expect it to be like a movie theatre, stay home. (I must say, though, nobody has ever told me to sit down and shut up, although I'm sure it happens because you're certainly not the first to mention it) That HAS happened me before at other venues, and my response is always: "Stand up if you can't see." And it's not like I stand the entire game. I only jump up for a goal (or if the puck is deep in the corner, it's a critical moment in the game and/or I can't see)...

 

[Rover]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Well BU is a sparkling 0 and 5 vs Maine in HE Semis...losing to them 1990, 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2010.

Now looks like a good time to end that streak...

I thought of that. Especially the early 2000's debacles. In their defense in 2010, the BU team was all hung over.

Millan's best game of his career IMHO was the 2009 NCAA's vs...you guessed it, UNH. This could be 2nd (was well as the Fri game). Looks like he saves up his best games for our friends to the North.

 

[defkit]

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Good to see Chiasson turning it on at the right time. The video from Friday night showed many slick moves, despite the loss. A quick review shows that other than the 2009 season, the only other Terrier to get to 44 points since about 2000 is Peter MacArthur with 45.

 

[Felger]

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Millan's best game of his career IMHO was the 2009 NCAA's vs...you guessed it, UNH. This could be 2nd (was well as the Fri game). Looks like he saves up his best games for our friends to the North.

Paying us back for all those Michael Ayers games...

 

[defkit]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Interesting side note to that waived off UNH goal, which I understand Parker requested the review of. The UNH player hits it with what may have been a high stick, then hits it into the net with another whack. Now, we all know that you you cannot score a goal off of a high stick, and that type of play is reviewable to be overturned. However, I don't think that a goal is reviewable if it is first hit with a high stick and then knocked into the net. It certainly should be blown dead by the ref, but if it isn't, can it really be reviewed? To take it to an extreme to make my point, if the puck is knocked down with a high stick, passed four times and then shot into the net, it shouldn't be reviewable, right?

What makes this interesting to me is that in the 2003 HE Semis against BC, on Justin Maiser's second goal (on his way to a Hat Trick and the GWG in double OT), he knocked the puck down with what could have been a high stick, and then after corraling it back in, shot it in for a goal. The play was reviewed and ultimately confirmed, but I remember thinking, "hey, if you didn't blow that play dead on the spot, you can't overturn a goal that results after it". And in fact, Parker said the same thing in the presser:

“I thought for sure it would be called a goal,” said Parker. “I don’t know if it was high sticking, but I knew he didn’t high stick the puck into the net. You can only call goals back on certain criteria. When you high stick the puck and then shoot in into the net, you can’t call that back because
then you’d have to review every play.”

So I think it is interesting that it appears he called for a review on the same type of play and got it overturned. (Cue the complaints about the back pocket).

 

[Federal League]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

defkit- Pretty much the same thing happened in Lowell this weekend. One PC player high-sticked a rebound, it popped up, then another PC player whacked it in below the crossbar. Only difference is the refs waved it off on the ice. But they still reviewed it, and it wound up being a long review. All of us in the press box were wondering the same thing as you- is that first touch actually reviewable? I still don't know the answer. BTW, the no-goal call wound up standing.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

then you’d have to review every play.”

I just addressed this in the Maine thread (there's a big controversy there [obviously we didn't see the game here] about a goal that was disallowed because it was purportedly "kicked in" when the Maine people say it just went "off" the skate). I just think we have gone down the wrong path with this replay thing. No matter how many times Tom Caron says "They just want to GET IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I still think it's a bad idea. It opens up more controversy than it solves. And Jack's right; you would have to review every play given some of the stuff they look at. Then there's the whole issue of whether or not is is "reviewable." Well, you're REVIEWING IT, aren't you?? Hello??? So it the official sees something illegal upon review he's supposed to IGNORE it??????? "Oh, but we can't review THAT." What a joke. We're all human and everyone makes mistakes. The breaks even out. If you don't like it, don't put yourself in a position to get beat by one bad call.

 

[Rogie21]

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[/QUOTE]
So I think it is interesting that it appears he called for a review on the same type of play and got it overturned. (Cue the complaints about the back pocket).[/QUOTE]

IIRC, the decision on Maiser's goal was that it wasn't conclusive that it was knocked down with a high stick. This video isn't exactly conclusive.

Reportedly, JP now sends the payments online. No more checks.

 

[KnightsOfTheRound]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

I just addressed this in the Maine thread (there's a big controversy there [obviously we didn't see the game here] about a goal that was disallowed because it was purportedly "kicked in" when the Maine people say it just went "off" the skate). I just think we have gone down the wrong path with this replay thing. No matter how many times Tom Caron says "They just want to GET IT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I still think it's a bad idea. It opens up more controversy than it solves. And Jack's right; you would have to review every play given some of the stuff they look at. Then there's the whole issue of whether or not is is "reviewable." Well, you're REVIEWING IT, aren't you?? Hello??? So it the official sees something illegal upon review he's supposed to IGNORE it??????? "Oh, but we can't review THAT." What a joke. We're all human and everyone makes mistakes. The breaks even out. If you don't like it, don't put yourself in a position to get beat by one bad call.

I hear you on not putting yourself in a position to get beaten by one bad call, but as a fan of the game I'm happy they do review scoring plays and try to get the call right. I don't agree with what the referees decide 100% of the time, but I almost always know why they arrived at the conclusion they did since the burden of proof is on overturning the call on the ice. Reviewing scoring plays is fine I say, but I don't by any stretch think they should be reviewing every play or going to an NFL style challenge system-- that would be bad.

 

[brassbonanza]

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Well, that's my point. Not to get political, but it's the same "elitist" snobs that think it's beneath them to "cheer." My question is, why do they even bother to go to a game? If you expect it to be like a movie theatre, stay home. (I must say, though, nobody has ever told me to sit down and shut up, although I'm sure it happens because you're certainly not the first to mention it) That HAS happened me before at other venues, and my response is always: "Stand up if you can't see." And it's not like I stand the entire game. I only jump up for a goal (or if the puck is deep in the corner, it's a critical moment in the game and/or I can't see)...

To be fair, those people that called my friends obnoxious were only in those seats for that one game, so they clearly weren't season ticket holders, and may have just shown up for that one game. IIRC, they were a more elderly couple, so who knows what their views were. I do respect people's right to want to sit and watch the game, so I don't have a problem with sitting, it's more the culture of let's make this a "family atmosphere" that is so ridiculously perpetuated at Agganis where if you say a bad word, you scream at someone, or make any kind of negative comment, you're shunned. Last night after the fourth goal I yelled at the top of my lungs to the team to get their head out of their ***, and with the place being so dead, it was fairly audible. I fully expected some RSIG person to come down and get on me for using the word "***". Get rid of this family atmosphere BS, stop catering the sport to the Sesame Street Live families, and get the freaking RSIG language gestapo out of the dam aisles of every section. This is division 1 hockey, that's not a "family" sport. Sure, we should maintain decency and respect, and not turn into UMass, but this lecture hall family atmosphere thing has completely zapped the life out of the place and made it into a completely woeful atmosphere at times. Of course, Agganis doesn't care as long as they're still making money, selling their cold chicken finger boats, and RSIG makes sure to ask everyone that looks like they may be a college student to remove their hat to be sure that you're not sneaking in a nip under that hat. Yes, that happened to me this year. Of course, the older gentleman who walked in ahead of me with a hat on was not asked to remove his hat. In case you can't tell, I am not a fan of the way that arena is run and the gross negative effect it has had on our program, our fans, and our students. If there was a way I could still follow this team the same way I do without having to give a dime of my money to the clowns at that place, I would do so in a heartbeat.

Sheesh, I didn't realize I was that angry about it.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Sheesh, I didn't realize I was that angry about it.

I don't blame you at all. But you know, it's interesting. Are any of those RSIG people at the basketball games? I don't ever recall seeing any. I was at the America East Championship Game against Stony Brook last year. It was the GREATEST atmosphere I had even seen at a BU event. The place was going beserk. Just ONCE I would like to see that for hockey. And the irony is, hockey is supposed to be THE sport at BU, but I guess we're so used to winning that we're almost desensitized. Strange...

 

[brassbonanza]

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I don't blame you at all. But you know, it's interesting. Are any of those RSIG people at the basketball games? I don't ever recall seeing any. I was at the America East Championship Game against Stony Brook last year. It was the GREATEST atmosphere I had even seen at a BU event. The place was going beserk. Just ONCE I would like to see that for hockey. And the irony is, hockey is supposed to be THE sport at BU, but I guess we're so used to winning that we're almost desensitized. Strange...

RSIG covers every event at Agganis, as far as I know, and from what I remember, yes, they were at Agganis for that game. I don't know if they were under orders to not say anything to the fans or get in their way, but you're right, that was a great atmosphere. I know they tend to ignore the opposing team's fans at hockey games. There were times I literally had to point out something that an opposing fan was doing because RSIG was too busy paying attention to BU students who were doing nothing. The guy standing at the bottom of 116 who spends the whole game looking up into the student sections trying to read kid's mouths and see who's swearing once let a Northeastern fan walk right by him with a t-shirt that said "I (middle finger) BU". I had to call down to him and actually point the kid out in order to get him to notice. One game against Amherst, a group of UMass fans showed up and were very audibly yelling fruck em up fruck em up over and over fron their section all the way on the other side of the arena, and for a solid 15 minutes, no one did a thing. Again, I had to go find an RSIG person and tell them they're swearing over there and to enforce the dam rules uniformly. Finally, someone went over and said something to them. You can bet if a BU student was doing the same thing in 118, they'd be gone in no time. Of course, while they're so invested in "securing" the place of profanity, on multiple occasions this season, a puck has flown into the stands and not one RSIG person or event staff came down to see if the person was OK. There was also a small fight in the section next to me last season, again, no RSIG person sees it and they have to be summoned to do something about it. 116 lip reader is too busy turning the other way. It's absolutely ridiculous how that place is run and the how insanely proactive they are about non-existent problems while ignoring ones of greater significance. It's almost concerning how much these RSIG guys get a rise out of catching someone swearing, or finding someone that's had alcohol. I've heard them talk about kids they've busted, and you'd think they just won an Oscar. This is like the crowning achievement of their professional lives, that the guy at the bottom of the section saw a kid mouth a swear, radioed the guy up top, and they got him! It's ridiculous the systems they have set up to secure the place of these things in a select few sections (read: student sections), while blatantly ignoring it in others.

But as long as there's a family atmosphere, and they're filling the stands, who cares what effect it has on the performance of the team. Kudos to the students for taking it on the road and creating great atmospheres at numerous road games away from the RSIG profanity police.

 

[Bomber]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

It's just very frustrating every year when someone like Maine or UNH scores the whole place explodes, and then we score and the decibel level is 1/4 as loud. And no, I can't "get over it."

I disagree. I hope 10,000 Maine fans make the trip. Make it a road game. #OurRoadRecordIsGood

Like the 2008-2009 season UVM home sweep and then redemption in the FF, here's hoping dropping those two home games to Maine adds a layer of motivation.

Getting back to the UNH series. Didn't UNH cough up a 4-0 lead to Harvard earlier this season? We should have realized it was in their DNA.

BU Hockey: New Life

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Good news everyone! If the team gets drunk on St Patty's day they won't be hungover for a hockey game, practice, or film session! Hopefully they don't drink wine though, too many grapes involved.

 

[Scarlet]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

too many grapes involved.

Yeah, can you clarify this? I saw the grapes. Many of us were confuzzled by them.

Nice article on NCAA.com about Chris Connolly and brother Jack.

For those of us that ordered tickets for this weekend, anyone hear about availability for pick up? Or will they be at a Will Call table like they have been in the past?

 

[Rover]

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brass, have you brought this up with anyone? If the section feels that way, I'd strongly suggest contacting the school, particularly the President's office instead of just the athletic department. BU is desperate to increase their donor base as during the end of the Silber Reign of Terror they sunk down to single digits in % of alumni donating. Telling them that 1000 students are going to be so PO'd by their school experience and will give zero dollars due to an overaggressive arena staff might get somebody's attention.

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Yeah, can you clarify this? I saw the grapes. Many of us were confuzzled by them.

I cannot. It's a Dog Pound culture, it just is.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

To be fair, those people that called my friends obnoxious were only in those seats for that one game, so they clearly weren't season ticket holders, and may have just shown up for that one game. IIRC, they were a more elderly couple, so who knows what their views were. I do respect people's right to want to sit and watch the game, so I don't have a problem with sitting, it's more the culture of let's make this a "family atmosphere" that is so ridiculously perpetuated at Agganis where if you say a bad word, you scream at someone, or make any kind of negative comment, you're shunned. Last night after the fourth goal I yelled at the top of my lungs to the team to get their head out of their ***, and with the place being so dead, it was fairly audible. I fully expected some RSIG person to come down and get on me for using the word "***". Get rid of this family atmosphere BS, stop catering the sport to the Sesame Street Live families, and get the freaking RSIG language gestapo out of the dam aisles of every section. This is division 1 hockey, that's not a "family" sport. Sure, we should maintain decency and respect, and not turn into UMass, but this lecture hall family atmosphere thing has completely zapped the life out of the place and made it into a completely woeful atmosphere at times. Of course, Agganis doesn't care as long as they're still making money, selling their cold chicken finger boats, and RSIG makes sure to ask everyone that looks like they may be a college student to remove their hat to be sure that you're not sneaking in a nip under that hat. Yes, that happened to me this year. Of course, the older gentleman who walked in ahead of me with a hat on was not asked to remove his hat. In case you can't tell, I am not a fan of the way that arena is run and the gross negative effect it has had on our program, our fans, and our students. If there was a way I could still follow this team the same way I do without having to give a dime of my money to the clowns at that place, I would do so in a heartbeat.

Sheesh, I didn't realize I was that angry about it.

I suggest we should be able to have a great atmosphere in the arena and still have it be family friendly.

Personally I think that instead of splitting the students up, they should have concentrated them all in the sections surrounding 118... sections 115 to 101 are students (or however many sections are required). People in those sections should expect to stand up for the whole game. Other sections, expect to be sitting down (and cheering) except for the points of the game when something brings you to your feet.

Cheers from the students need to be more creative. The "BC Sucks" thing inserted at every possible opportunity has become about as old and as lame as it gets. (Are they still inserting "the song" into the "seive" chant after a goal? Way back, I remember 108 being loud and even boarderline obnoxious, but never overly vulgar but at one point it did start to get pretty bad and they started leaving notes on everyones seats about the use of profanity etc.

There are some cheers that seem to be long lost that always seemed to involve the whole areana (not just the students):

- Rhett skating on the ice, pointing to sections 1-7, lowering his hands to the ice then lifting them up making the crowd louder, then repeating for sections 8-14... kind of like a contest between the two sides on who could be louder.

- Ogre or Roachman standing up with the "Hey Everybody... give me a T (etc etc) cheer.

I agree the atmosphere does need to improve though.

 

[pirate]

I cannot. It's a Dog Pound culture, it just is.

One of the things the MLS team in Philly does is ask you before you buy season tix, what you want to do during game (stand, sit, sing etc).

This way you can be grouped with like people. Re-sale impacts the purity of that but it helps the stodgy people congregate and keeps the crazies together too.

It also helps reduce conflicts between individual attendees