Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

[Rogie21]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Curry returns

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[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

We know no Harper, but getting Cockerill back should be a help.
The comment that Quinn eventually moved Crone off the first two lines still begs the question, what took him so long to move up Cockerill?

Logan took a little while to come into his own and be ready for top two line minutes. That said, he's come along really well and deserves it.

This is the first time all year I can remember feeling good about a lineup. They should stick with these lines here on out.

 

[Bomber]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Curry returns

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The 4th line is scoring a goal this weekend. BOOK IT! #HotTake

 

[BU Fan 84]

At this point, you gotta admit it's kinda hilarious how bad this team is. David Quinn is literally a moron.

 

[mookie1995]

Agreed. This team isn’t good isn’t average but bad. Absolutely has no semblance of a cohesive unit. I hope and expect Quinn to step aside. Worst BU team since 2000

Hope and expect

The terrior equiv of thoughts and prayers

 

[Tater]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Agreed. This team isn’t good isn’t average but bad. Absolutely has no semblance of a cohesive unit. I hope and expect Quinn to step aside. Worst BU team since 2000

LOL come on guys.

So this team that is top 20 in the Pairwise and 5 games above .500 is worse than:

2001 team that was 14-20-3
2004 team that was 12-17-9
2008 team that was 19-17-4
2010 team that was 18-17-3
2014 team that was 10-21-4

 

[Tater]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Prediction on attendance tonight and tomorrow? I'll go with ~2,400 tonight and ~2,700 tomorrow.

Virtually the same as last year, but they were playing against NU which I suspect brings more local fans.

Might be closer to the 1750 and 1900 of 2 seasons ago.

Not that I'm "predicting," but it might be a <i>little</i> more than you think. Storrs is not that far away and they have a pretty solid core fan base. My guess would be definitely more (UConn fans) on Saturday, especially if they steal one Friday.

Those were first round playoff games, not quarterfinal games. Since Agganis has opened BU has hosted 26 quarterfinal games with an average of 3,447 and a median of 3,578. Attendance for the 2 quarterfinal series under Coach Quinn have been much lower with and average of 2,338 and a median of 2,265, but still better than the first round series of 2 seasons ago.

Sean

1,774 tonight. Well my reasoning may have been flawed, but my prediction was correct!

 

[DLG]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

1,774 tonight. Well my reasoning may have been flawed, but my prediction was correct!

1900 at NU- 2100 at Prov-2400 at BC
The way hockeyeast set up the playoffs is a joke

 

[ericredaxe]

LOL come on guys.

So this team that is top 20 in the Pairwise and 5 games above .500 is worse than:

2001 team that was 14-20-3
2004 team that was 12-17-9
2008 team that was 19-17-4
2010 team that was 18-17-3
2014 team that was 10-21-4

Don’t forget, Jofa doesn’t really cheer for BU

 

[ericredaxe]

At this point, you gotta admit it's kinda hilarious how bad this team is. David Quinn is literally a moron.

Coach says hi.

So do we sweep them tomorrow or does it go 3 games?

 

[Terrance]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

LOL come on guys.

So this team that is top 20 in the Pairwise and 5 games above .500 is worse than:

2001 team that was 14-20-3
2004 team that was 12-17-9
2008 team that was 19-17-4
2010 team that was 18-17-3
2014 team that was 10-21-4

Expectations matter.

 

[Scarlet]

Agreed. This team isn’t good isn’t average but bad. Absolutely has no semblance of a cohesive unit. I hope and expect Quinn to step aside. Worst BU team since 2000

What is with the “I hope Quinn steps aside.”? Coaches don’t step aside. They do get fired. Isn’t that more realistic?

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Expectations matter.

Yeah, you beat me to it. A better word (as opposed to "bad") might have been "underachieving." You have to give them credit for coming back tonight and showing some determination. I think, though, that given the purported talent level, people are surprised that everything is this difficult. I'll leave it to others to speculate why that may be...

 

[Tater]

Expectations matter.

As far as judging coaches’ performance? Sure. However Jofa’s statement that this is the worst team since 2000 is pretty cut and dry. There is no qualification for expectations there.

 

[Tater]

Yeah, you beat me to it. A better word (as opposed to "bad") might have been "underachieving." You have to give them credit for coming back tonight and showing some determination. I think, though, that given the purported talent level, people are surprised that everything is this difficult. I'll leave it to others to speculate why that may be...

Bad? I would disagree. Doesn’t mean I think they’re great either. Underachieving? Definitely agree. Worst BU team since 2000? Absolutely not.

 

[BU Fan 84]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

LOL come on guys.

So this team that is top 20 in the Pairwise and 5 games above .500 is worse than:

2001 team that was 14-20-3
2004 team that was 12-17-9
2008 team that was 19-17-4
2010 team that was 18-17-3
2014 team that was 10-21-4

I didn't say they were the worst team ever but the 07-08 and 09-10 teams were definitely better hockey teams. Don't forget they played in a much better conference than this team is playing in.

 

[BU Fan 84]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Coach says hi.

So do we sweep them tomorrow or does it go 3 games?

What does this mean? That because they managed to beat a ****ty UConn team in OT that somehow the previous two and a half hours of utter and absolute **** doesn't matter?

 

[Tater]

I didn't say they were the worst team ever but the 07-08 and 09-10 teams were definitely better hockey teams. Don't forget they played in a much better conference than this team is playing in.

No, Jofa did. There are a couple of teams there that an argument could be made about, but that group of teams shows that saying this is the worst BU team since 2000 out of hand is wrong. It looks like even you think at least three of them were worse teams. I wouldn’t say those other two were “definitely “ better, just that an argument could be made.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

Expectations matter.

The 09-10 team with Bonino, Shattenkirk, Chiasson, Gryba, Cohen, Warsofsky and Saponari among others was a far more underperforming team based on expectations than this one. Just because a bunch of polls inexplicably ranked this squad as #2 in the country coming into this year doesn't mean that's the bar for what the expectations of that team should be. This team "should've" been somewhere in the 11-13 PWR range, make the tournament as a low 3/high 4 and maybe win a game in the tournament. They've certainly underperformed that bar, but not astronomically. The 09-10 team was full of proven stars at the collegiate level. Maybe that team shouldn't have been expected to win it all, but a top-8 PWR finish and a legit run at the Frozen Four was a reasonable expectation with that roster, and they finished 23 in PWR - an enormous underperformance.

I didn't say they were the worst team ever but the 07-08 and 09-10 teams were definitely better hockey teams. Don't forget they played in a much better conference than this team is playing in.

Hockey East got three teams into the NCAAs in 09-10, with UVM barely sneaking in. BC was the only legitimate national contender that year. UNH was 17-13. The BU team, with 7 guys who'd go on to play in the NHL and more who'd just run roughshod over the entire country the year before, finished one game above .500.

Yeah, you beat me to it. A better word (as opposed to "bad") might have been "underachieving." You have to give them credit for coming back tonight and showing some determination. I think, though, that given the purported talent level, people are surprised that everything is this difficult. I'll leave it to others to speculate why that may be...

I think the key word here is "purported." We don't have as much proven talent, and that's the problem. With the crop of hot shot new kids that come in each year it leads to the pundits proclaiming that BU is the best thing in the world when many of the impact players have never played a collegiate game. This is a both a problem of BU's high roster turnover rate and these pundits not accurately understanding the impact a freshman can have on a national level. Only Eichel and Keller were freshman who made BU significantly better than if they weren't there. The rest were...freshmen. Some good, some underwhelming. I suspect had JFK stayed for his junior year this team would be in a very different predicament and solidly in the NCAA tournament.

 

[Bigus Paulus]

Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

I'd say since 2000 the worst teams are as follows:

Biggest Underachievers: 2009-2010

Overall Worst Team: 2013-2014

Dishonorable Mention: 2000-2001, 2003-2004