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Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

J.D. said:
Unless that official knows who said it or that player comes forward after being confronted by BC, I am not sure where this goes. As of right now it doesn't appear a player has been mentioned. Although maybe that player has been discovered internally and they are protecting identity until they gather all the info they can.
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Could it be also possible coming from a fan in the stands ?
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

No idea. And I'm not gonna claim to know or jump to conclusions like the PC (not Providence College) police are already doing. I like facts. If this happened it's embarrassing for the player and BC. But if you can't prove what happened, if there is uncertainty as to what was said, or if a player denies an allegation against them I don't know what you're supposed to do here.
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

J.D. said:
No idea. And I'm not gonna claim to know or jump to conclusions like the PC (not Providence College) police are already doing. I like facts. If this happened it's embarrassing for the player and BC. But if you can't prove what happened, if there is uncertainty as to what was said, or if a player denies an allegation against them I don't know what you're supposed to do here.
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According to CHN, the officials heard it. Maybe the refs should be have mics on to catch everything for proof now.

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/03/20_Hockey-East-Investigating.php
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

Yes, game officials. I already knew that part. I'm not sure if you're being serious about recording but if you wanna do that and also record around bench area...have at it. I doubt that will ever happen, a lot to sift through.
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

J.D. said:
...I like facts. If this happened it's embarrassing for the player and BC. But if you can't prove what happened, if there is uncertainty as to what was said, or if a player denies an allegation against them I don't know what you're supposed to do here.
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OMG the end times must be upon us! Here I am on a BC thread defending BC, which should never happen. But I'm getting more than a little weary of the speech police. In this case, nobody (apparently) knows for sure what was said or who said it. Yet the speech police rush to judgment and presume everyone wearing maroon and gold is guilty until proven innocent. BS!!! What the heck ever happened to "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me"?
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

J.D. said:
Yes, game officials. I already knew that part. I'm not sure if you're being serious about recording but if you wanna do that and also record around bench area...have at it. I doubt that will ever happen, a lot to sift through.
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I don't know what type of evidence you EXPECT to get though if you don't have mics everywhere. If your game officials said it happened, the conference should be standing behind it.
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

The conference hasn't denounced anything reported to them as being wrong or bad info. It sounds like the official simply wasn't able to identify the player involved.
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

J.D. said:
The conference hasn't denounced anything reported to them as being wrong or bad info. It sounds like the official simply wasn't able to identify the player involved.
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Thats what's so odd/lame about BC's official response. In games refs say something was said, Hockey East says something was said - but can't prove what player. BC says - "nothing to see here..."

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/03/20_Boston-College-Responds-to.php
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

No that is not what they said. They said there is uncertainty. That is a huge difference from "nothing to see here".
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

The AD is African-American and reached out to the PC player. I just find it laughable to suggest BC wouldn't take this seriously or that somehow the league is covering this up. Things like that.
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

A point on why the refs didn't do anything - the original article said "game officials" heard the player. That term includes the on-ice officials as well as the clock operators, penalty box attendants, and time keepers who of course can't call a penalty but can alert the on-ice refs. I don't know what the official's handbook says about handling that kind of situation, if they didn't hear it themselves, but I imagine it would be a difficult one.

That said, the fact that an employed game official heard this and reported it to the league lends a great deal of credibility that this actually happened.
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

That's fair. I don't want it to come across like I am accusing an official of making this up. But if you can't identify the player or if you can but they deny it/claim they said something else there's not really anywhere to go with this. You can't just "take action" to please people like zlax. I honestly didn't know people still went to Deadspin for news.
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

J.D. said:
That's fair. I don't want it to come across like I am accusing an official of making this up. But if you can't identify the player or if you can but they deny it/claim they said something else there's not really anywhere to go with this. You can't just "take action" to please people like zlax. I honestly didn't know people still went to Deadspin for news.
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Disagree. If a game official says they heard that the player said this, that holds a lot of weight. For Hockey East, BC, and Jerry York to throw up their hands and say "Well we asked the team and they claim they didn't say it, so there's nothing we can do!" is woefully insufficient. That game official has no motive to make this up. The league admitted in their statement that something was said, just that they couldn't figure out who said it.

You know who can easily figure out who said it? York. If he really wanted to get to the bottom of this, he'd ban everyone from practice until he got a full account of what was said and who said it. I'm sure the team would magically remember at that point.
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

Ya I'm sure that's what every coach would do. Real plausible scenario there.
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

If you don't know who said it then how can you say it came from a BC player? What if it was from a PC player instead?
 
Re: Boston College Eagles 🦅 2018-2019

Hockey East admitted inappropriate comments between players, didn't specifically say racial slur. If you have a problem with that wording take it up with the league.

Not sure who you are accusing of rationalizing this away, certainly wasn't me. I said earlier that uttering a racial slur to someone wouldn't even cross my mind even in the heat of battle. It's wrong and obviously a punishment is appropriate for someone who does that. But I am not going to feign outrage and demand the season be cancelled or demand the player's head on a stick.
 
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