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Boston College Eagles 2019-20 - No Chit!

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Too many great players to retire #s

Same situation as stillers. Do one (joe Greene - gionta) and be done
 
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Good candidates:
- Scott Clemmensen (NC + the backbone for probably the best four years of BC hockey; 99 career wins and an insane set of numbers in the postseason)
- Johnny Gaudreau (Hobey + NC)
- John Muse (2 NCs)

How are you going to retire "1" for Muse when Schneider was the MUCH better goalie? I understand Muse won 2 NC's, but so did a lot of guys who shouldn't have their numbers retired.
 
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How are you going to retire "1" for Muse when Schneider was the MUCH better goalie? I understand Muse won 2 NC's, but so did a lot of guys who shouldn't have their numbers retired.
We only retire numbers if they win a national award, such as the Heisman or Hobey Baker. The rest have a sweater with their name retired.
 
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Even that is confusing because Mottau won Hobey and I think they retired his jersey but #3 is still in circulation.

So many great players the last 20 years it is definitely up for debate. For me, Muse would get the nod over Schneider. Milner was great in national title run but he's obviously not in the conversation. But when you win 2 national titles and are a 4 year starter, that is going to outweigh three years of Schneider where you came up short in tournament play. They scored two goals total in the two NC game losses for Schneider so I get that it wasn't his fault but that's life.
 
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UMD .5741 1 RPI 0 .5725 BC

A lof of things will shift with COP stuff but... if BC can surpass UMD in the RPI rating, it flips a lot as the tiebreaker and would land BC at 4th in the PWR all other things equal. 1 seed in the Woo is not all that crazy. Something to aim for in addition to the Hockey East trophies.
 
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Interesting that 5 of 8 losses have been at home. 12-3 on the road. 7-5 at home. 1-0-1 at Garden.

Guys on the ice protecting lead in final seconds after a Northeastern timeout:

Mattila
Newhook
McLaughlin
Moore
Mattila
 
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As far as I know 16 is only retired number right now (Emma)
 
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Nobody has worn 13 since Gaudreau left so that could indicate his number is out of circulation.
 
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One last thing on John Muse. For anyone who was at or watched the regional final against Miami in 2008 (as a Freshman) he single handedly allowed that game to continue in OT. He was awesome. York had to use a timeout because Miami was all over them. And in his 4 FF games, he allowed a total of 3 goals.
 
One last thing on John Muse. For anyone who was at or watched the regional final against Miami in 2008 (as a Freshman) he single handedly allowed that game to continue in OT. He was awesome. York had to use a timeout because Miami was all over them. And in his 4 FF games, he allowed a total of 3 goals.

BC started with the idea of retiring numbers like the Bruins and Celtics, but quickly realized that they would run out of numbers. It would take a very special player to get his numbered retired now.

Team looked very strong tonight. One last line change I would make would be to put #22 on the 3rd line and #27 on the 4th line.

Go Eagles!
 
One last thing on John Muse. For anyone who was at or watched the regional final against Miami in 2008 (as a Freshman) he single handedly allowed that game to continue in OT. He was awesome. York had to use a timeout because Miami was all over them. And in his 4 FF games, he allowed a total of 3 goals.

And that was the key game that triggered that 6-7 years of dominance . Still one of the best BC hockey moments ever .
 
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Thought they came out flat in the first, were unreal in the 2nd and decent in the 3rd but Northeastern was playing with a lot of desperation in the 3rd. Thought Northeastern focused more on stopping the freshman line than the 1st line so it was great to see the 1st line take control. Tonight is going to be a real battle, Northeastern started getting chippy and mouthy in the 3rd, I expect to continue and escalate into tonight. Absolutely need to stay out of the box.

As far as jerseys retired, does anyone have a full list? I can’t find one and it’s not in the media guide.
 
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One last thing on John Muse. For anyone who was at or watched the regional final against Miami in 2008 (as a Freshman) he single handedly allowed that game to continue in OT. He was awesome. York had to use a timeout because Miami was all over them. And in his 4 FF games, he allowed a total of 3 goals.

A certain unnamed pinhead made a surprise visit to Conte on Brian Gionta night last weekend and we were talking about all the great games (and bad ones... 07 MSU game) we've seen. This game was epic and yes, absolutely, Muse singlehandedly won that game with his overtime heroics prior to Whitney scoring full out Bobby Orr style in OT. So many interesting things in this game:

- 3 goals in 1:58 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TuXBljG0Po). The place wasn't even full but my God did it get loud in the Centrum. Most people there were BC fans and it was pandemonium.
- The Whitney goal in and of itself (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBS2hTe98A) was something that will live on in BC history forever.
- The Muse performance in OT. One man show out there for a bit.
- I also credit Crazy Nick Petrecki for setting the tone in this one by bodyslamming Miami's best player I believe on the first shift or two of the game.
- The timeout in OT. York in his prime. BC was getting run out of the building and he went into Jerry Yoda mode, took the timeout and got their attention. Minutes later, it was over. I'd love to get the York circa 2008 back for a few more seasons.

I'd put this Miami game in 2008 and Michigan 2004 right near the top of the list for most underrated games ever. Some of the 1998-2001 regionals are also up there, a lot of insanely good games that are forgotten after BC started ripping off titles every other year for a while.

And while we're talking about Muse, a lot of people like to minimize what he did but a lot of times those BC teams needed a little time to get going and he was always there to hold it down until they did. In the big games, he was the best. Also I'd like to note a huge breakaway save he made in the 2010 Detroit semifinal vs Miami. Who knows how that game goes if he doesn't make that save. Hours later, it was blowout and another epic chokejob for Coach "Failboat" Enrico Blasi, who told his team in a pregame speech how BC couldn't skate with his Redhawks. And that BC team was a disgustingly good skating team with Kreider and Atkinson in addition to a whole set of other NHL caliber players like Gibbons and Whitney. Not exactly a Herb Brooks moment for Coach Failboat.

ps - thanks to Grant for keeping those videos up.
 
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Also FWIW BC's magic number is now 8 and could go as low as 4 with a BC win and a UMass-Amherst loss tonight.
 
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BC started with the idea of retiring numbers like the Bruins and Celtics, but quickly realized that they would run out of numbers. It would take a very special player to get his numbered retired now.

Team looked very strong tonight. One last line change I would make would be to put #22 on the 3rd line and #27 on the 4th line.

Go Eagles!

With 13 not in use since Gaudreau left I bet he's getting that honor.

It is a little strange seeing Rasanen on the 4th line considering how hot he was earlier in the year. I agree that I'd like to see him in a top nine role if they can finagle it. But, that might not be in the cards especially since they have won 4 in a row. Considering how dominant Newhook has been, it's quite possible Rasanen was just a product of playing with him. So with the freshman line playing like it is now, no need to make any changes.

That’s what’s happened up to now.

Correct me if I'm wrong but right now Emma is the only guy with a retired #? But 13 hasn't been worn since Gaudreau. So that could be two retired numbers. I guess my confusion is with Mottau. He also won the Hobey but #3 is still being worn (McInnis). Maybe they decide to take that out of circulation at some point and you end up with retired numbers of 3, 13 and 16 for the Hobey winners?

Thought Northeastern focused more on stopping the freshman line than the 1st line so it was great to see the 1st line take control.

This is a key development. If the current lineup structure is what York goes with down the stretch you really have two very good scoring lines where the opponent needs to decide who they want to put their best guys on. Inherently should give BC an advantage with one of the two lines every night. One thing I haven't paid close enough attention to is how BC is deploying the 3rd line. Have they been using that McBain line on the opponent's top scorers? Might be something to watch for tonight in a home game where you have last change.
 
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I forgot how many crazy good regionals games we've seen/won since 1998.

- Michigan 2004 OT winner Eaves
- Miami 2008 OT winner Whitney
- Michigan State 2000 EAG goal forces OT .. OT winner Farkas (vs Ryan Miller). This game was truly bonkers with several lead changes, SHGs, PPGs, an EAG, and a BC 5-min major in OT that was just about to expire as Farkas scored.
- Maine 2001 Walshy gets booted. Great game, great environment. The end of an era for Maine; they stopped cheating and thus stopped winning.
- BU 2005. LOL. 5-0.
- Yale 2010. BC ran every Yale goalie out of the building, then started playing all the freshmen with a huge lead only to see Yale make it tight. Ended up 9-7. Was it Carl Sneep that scored a goal on Rondeau from like 175 feet away?
- UML 2014. Never thought they'd win this one after trailing going into the 2nd intermission with Hellebuyck. Fitzgerald's best moment as an eagle was tying this game up early in the 3rd to give BC a chance to win it. I was shocked they won upon leaving the building.

The ND 1999 game and Wisconsin 2000 games were pretty incredible on the regional side of things as well. Wisconsin fans lost their minds a week later when Reinprecht didn't win the Hobey and it was given to Mottau and they were VERY bitter about that for a good number of years until 2006. Both were #1 in the country and BC went out West. Something to remind a certain mongo North Dakota scribe when he will predictably lament BC's placement in Worcester this March.

Pretty insane BC has not played in an NCAA tournament game since 2016 FF semifinal vs. Quinnipiac and has not won one since that 2016 regional win against Duluth.
 
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Make of this what you will but BC is 13-3-1 in road/neutral site games this year including 12-0-1 in the last 13. Yet they are just 7-5 at home.
 
UMD .5741 1 RPI 0 .5725 BC

A lof of things will shift with COP stuff but... if BC can surpass UMD in the RPI rating, it flips a lot as the tiebreaker and would land BC at 4th in the PWR all other things equal. 1 seed in the Woo is not all that crazy. Something to aim for in addition to the Hockey East trophies.

Ya the RPI is huge, they basically just need to keep winning. They win the hockey East tournament, it’ll be a surprise if they aren’t a #1 seed in my mind but a lot can happen between now and then.

What I don’t know is if this happens, which it looks like it could:

BC wins the PairWise comparison against Duluth but loses it against Denver then Duluth wins the PairWise Comparison vs. Denver. I think RPI breaks the 3 way tie but I don’t know
 
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