Boston College Eagles 2019-20 - No Chit!

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

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Also #7 is a liability with his turnovers and inability to make the right plays

Had a rough night. Thought he was worse than 3. He has more upside and has great games at times but consistency is a struggle as it is with most D1 players.

They're trying. Feel gutted for them. Maybe a pep talk from Gionta in two weeks can get them in a good place mentally.

 

[DNAEagle]

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Less of Moore, Moore of Warren. The penalty by No 3 was just plain awful, on the PP, in the offensive zone and BC has the puck. How could you take that penalty in the middle of the ice. Just prior to that they were in complete control of the game. It still seems that when BC plays BU in the Garden something bad happens, seems to be every time. For the first time I felt that Hustko and Cotton tried to do too much on their own. Also it seems that the 4th line disappeared in the third period, was Giles reinjured ? I think the top line was completely gassed in the OT. This was a very disheartening loss, no putting a good spin on this.

 

[defkit]

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also not the reason we lost at all, should never be in that position (stephen a smith voice) HOWEVA, it was hilarious when BC was breaking in 4 on 2 in OT and BU has players randomly jumping onto the ice to break up the rush. you do you HE.

I was wondering about that. Caron and Jaffee seemed to comment on that but then they showed a photo/graphic that had 6 BC guys on the ice, so I was confused. And I'm all for letting them play, but I thought the take down of Mastrosimone in OT should have been called, especially after BC was given a power play right after BU took the lead (not saying it wasn't a legit penalty call, but you either decide to make calls that are there that could truly impact a game, or you don't).

You guys will be fine. Lots of talent and Jerry has them in the right frame of mind. Until the comeback started, I was just thinking about how much better as a team they were playing than BU.

 

[claver2010]

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Was reminiscent of the Roy breakaway in a Beanpot/HE tourney game at the Garden... 5 on 5 in the NU zone, BC is buzzing, NU finally clears it and Roy legit jumps off the bench as a 6th player and grabs the puck and goes in for a breakaway. Luckily it was saved by Milner(?) … who knows what would have happened had it gone in and if it was even reviewable.

great memory. might've been demko, 2014 beanpot? they all blend in

@defkit yeah that was weird. might've been part of them just rightfully dumping on the officiating all night (though the first game with the reviews was a lot worse)? i remember seeing bc break across the redline 4-2 clean and randomly some defender jumps on, thinking i'm seeing something until caron and jaffe are similarly voice what the f did i just see. surprised they never showed it.

 

[J.D.]

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Given the last few years, if this ends up just being a very good team and not a great team I will still take it. Gotta start somewhere.

With that said, you closed out a great win at UMass and in between that you blew multiple goal leads at home to Maine and neutral ice to BU. BC *should* have won last night. Shades of previous Beanpot disappointments.

The offense is clearly there. I think Knight is there but if I am being honest, has he had to stand on his head for this team? No. Is he making the big saves with the game on the line? Doesn't look that way. The OT record is a concern because you're gonna have games like that in the postseason. Still a very good team but they appear to lack the killer instinct to put a game away and I wonder if doubt starts to creep in when these games get tight.

 

[J.D.]

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With TV timeouts I am not surprised they went to 3 line. Walker might be seen as a liability.

 

[eaglekeeper]

With TV timeouts I am not surprised they went to 3 line. Walker might be seen as a liability.

Moore has been playing poorly for a month. We need to roll 4-5 defensemen in the last 10 minutes of games. Sit 3 & 7. I’ actually like #2, he just needs consistent playing time. We need his size especially around our own net.

I couldn’t agree more about the offense not creating chances throughout most of the game. I really like MCLaughlin and Giles combo especially for a 4th line, but I would love to see MCLaughlin with Boldy. It might be just what gets Boldy going.

Facilities: BC looked at building a 4,000 seat rink, but the cost was too high. They also looked at building just a b-ball arena, but again it was way too expensive, 300 million too expensive. The plan now is to build first class practice facilities for hockey and hoops just like football has and baseball is opening in August. This makes very good sense to me. If a new arena for hoops was 150 million, I would build a new arena, but not at 300 million. I do question a new arena costing 300 million, but regardless both new arena ideas are dead.

I think they should build a combo practice facility for hoops and hockey where they can share weight and training rooms. Put it next to the new rec center (Connell). Renovations to Conte and Alumni will come later.

Go Eagles!

 

[J.D.]

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A 4,000 seat rink? I'm in on a smaller new rink but 4,000 would be too small. Conte itself is still a very good venue, it's just become too big for the crowds they have been getting most games. And I would also question a new arena costing 300 million. Pegula Ice Arena cost 88m. Compton Arena at ND was 50m. Although when I look up Agganis it says 225m...wow.

 

[Sean Pickett]

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A 4,000 seat rink? I'm in on a smaller new rink but 4,000 would be too small. Conte itself is still a very good venue, it's just become too big for the crowds they have been getting most games. And I would also question a new arena costing 300 million. Pegula Ice Arena cost 88m. Compton Arena at ND was 50m. Although when I look up Agganis it says 225m...wow.

The $225 million cost was for the entire John Hancock Student Village Complex, which includes Agganis Arena, the Boston University Fitness and Recreation Center and the student residences at 10 Buick Street. The cost of Agganis Arena and the parking garage under it was $98 million.

Sean

 

[J.D.]

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Thanks. I don't know what BC had in mind but a new arena can quite clearly be done for under $100 million.

 

[brassbonanza]

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Thanks. I don't know what BC had in mind but a new arena can quite clearly be done for under $100 million.

Was there a land purchase involved in that $300M price tag for a new bball arena? I don't know what kind of $150-200 million land exists in Newton, but that's all I got.

 

[ericredaxe]

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TD Garden would be $268 million in today’s dollars if Wikipedia is correct.

I took in the Duke game last night and I’m not sure I see the need for a new arena at least from a fans perspective. Conte is still really pretty nice.

 

[Drew S.]

TD Garden would be $268 million in today’s dollars if Wikipedia is correct.

I took in the Duke game last night and I’m not sure I see the need for a new arena at least from a fans perspective. Conte is still really pretty nice.

I’m sure it would be significantly more. For something like that you can’t take the early 90’s cost and adjust for inflation.

4,000 would be perfect for a rink at BC. You would create a lot more demand for tickets and even the games that aren’t as attractive would still be reasonably full.

 

[J.D.]

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TD Garden would be $268 million in today’s dollars if Wikipedia is correct.

I took in the Duke game last night and I’m not sure I see the need for a new arena at least from a fans perspective. Conte is still really pretty nice.

You're right, they have kept Conte in pretty good shape. I think the reason a new arena has been talked about is because they do run into a lot of scheduling issues with two basketball teams and two hockey teams needing time. Even just a new practice facility would help alleviate this. I have to say that BU has a great situation where the women's hockey team plays at WBA and the basketball team still plays elsewhere, right? I know Agganis has other events throughout the year but doesn't seem like any of that conflicts with men's hockey.

 

[J.D.]

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4,000 is a little too small. If they ever did that, ticket prices would most certainly sky rocket. When I look at BU, the 6,000+ has been tough for them to fill most nights. With that in mind I think my ideal hockey arena for BC would be around 5,500.

 

[Boston22]

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I think this was a statement game that this team is not a championship level team. Up 3-1 with Spencer Knight in goal should be an automatic win against a lower level team. The problem is what we have all said for the past few years, this team is just way too small on defense. They have a shot at the HEA tourney, but I’m not expecting any hardware this season. Hopefully, all of the underclass men return next season as none of them are ready for the next level. Getting rid of #3 is addition by subtraction.

Unfortunately, they are beginning to look a lot like Lenny Cegalaski teams. They are now 0-4 in OT games and have lost 3 of the last 4 games, not promising at all.

Go Eagles!

Haven't posted on here in a while, but had to after Monday night's game. Luke McInnis has been bad for four years, but the penalty he took just didn't make any sense. It reminded me of the scene in Along Came Polly. Ben Stiller just read her children's book, looks totally befuddled asks Jennifer Aniston: "Not trying to be critical, or anything, but... what were you thinking?" I was actually a little surprised Coach York didn't put in either Warren or Helleson at the point for McInnis on that power play. He use to do that occasionally when BC would have a one goal lead late, on the PP, and sub in Patrick Wey for Steven Whitney.

That penalty completely changed the momentum of the game. Not sure how McInnis can act like a leader from here on out. Hopefully the Eagles can stay focused and beat Lowell on Friday night.

 

[Sean Pickett]

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A 4,000 seat rink? I'm in on a smaller new rink but 4,000 would be too small. Conte itself is still a very good venue, it's just become too big for the crowds they have been getting most games.

4,000 would be perfect for a rink at BC. You would create a lot more demand for tickets and even the games that aren’t as attractive would still be reasonably full.

I think 4,000 would be too small base on BC's official attendance figures. And if those numbers are tickets sold and not actual attendance it could lead to a situation where the new smaller arena is still only partially full due to no shows. As for a good rink size, here the median attendance numbers for Conte back to 2002-03 for regular season games and also how many games were under 4,000 attendance:

2019-20 - 6,190 - 1 of 10
2018-19 - 3,617 - 8 of 14
2017-18 - 4,737 - 3 of 16
2016-17 - 4,373 - 3 of 14
2015-16 - 4,950 - 2 of 15
2014-15 - 4,807 - 1 of 15
2013-14 - 6,345 - 1 of 13
2012-13 - 7,027 - 1 of 16
2011-12 - 6,514 - 1 of 14
2010-11 - 6,821 - 1 of 13
2009-10 - 5,113 - 3 of 14
2008-09 - 5,675 - 2 of 17
2007-08 - 5,491 - 0 of 15
2006-07 - 4,819 - 1 of 15
2005-06 - 5,828 - 0 of 15
2004-05 - 5,375 - 0 of 15
2003-04 - 5,949 - 0 of 15
2002-03 - 6,108 - 0 of 15

Attendance did drop in 2014-15 and remained down until this season, but a 4,000 seat arena would appear to be too small. Even last season, 6 games had attendance over 4,000.

Sean

 

[FLHockeyMom]

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Haven't posted on here in a while, but had to after Monday night's game. Luke McInnis has been bad for four years, but the penalty he took just didn't make any sense. It reminded me of the scene in Along Came Polly. Ben Stiller just read her children's book, looks totally befuddled asks Jennifer Aniston: "Not trying to be critical, or anything, but... what were you thinking?" I was actually a little surprised Coach York didn't put in either Warren or Helleson at the point for McInnis on that power play. He use to do that occasionally when BC would have a one goal lead late, on the PP, and sub in Patrick Wey for Steven Whitney.

That penalty completely changed the momentum of the game. Not sure how McInnis can act like a leader from here on out. Hopefully the Eagles can stay focused and beat Lowell on Friday night.

I've known of McInnis since his days in FL and then NE prep. Didn't he lose Dexter a championship with a similarly boneheaded play? But I digress. I noticed that he was benched for the rest of regulation and then much of the first OT, but then reappeared with Karow for the rest of the game. I guess Marty figured he'd done sufficient penance? But that's what you get when you have primarily smaller, offensive dmen. I happen to like Moore (am also familiar with him since his youth days in Atlanta and then prep), but agree that he's struggling right now. The answer is to pair offensive guys with defensive-minded guys, but that's not popular with the coaching staffs and fans these days. People would rather have a 5-4 game than a 1-0 game.

 

[Sean Pickett]

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You're right, they have kept Conte in pretty good shape. I think the reason a new arena has been talked about is because they do run into a lot of scheduling issues with two basketball teams and two hockey teams needing time. Even just a new practice facility would help alleviate this. I have to say that BU has a great situation where the women's hockey team plays at WBA and the basketball team still plays elsewhere, right? I know Agganis has other events throughout the year but doesn't seem like any of that conflicts with men's hockey.

Yes, BU has The Roof (Case Gym) above Walter Brown Arena for men's and women's basketball, so men's hockey is currently the only BU team using Agganis. Over the years there have been a few conflicts, but as the prime tenant they usually get the scheduling and practice time they want. When there has been a conflict for practice they have used WBA.

Sean

 

[J.D.]

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BCs three best defensive dmen are probably Helleson, Mattila and Karow. But that's not factoring in L/R shot in terms of pairing each of those guys with an "offensive" guy. Also, don't think Marty had any say on when Luke gets back on the ice there. Brendan Buckley is coaching the d and ultimately whether a guy is benched or not is York's call. Maybe the d were getting gassed.