Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

[BC/HE]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

Please no, just don't. You're giving me flashbacks of Danny Linell back on defense or Boyle getting turnstiled by Tim Kennedy in the 2007 National Championship game.

Then think of the Whitneys doing it, especially on the PP. Another forward made a successful move to D also but his name escapes me now. Boyle despite the mistakes in that NC game helped BC immensely while on D that year in getting them to that game. Had he netted that 2 on 0 breakaway, that the MSU goaltender robbed him on, BC would have likely won that game instead.

 

[Cross Check]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

Then think of the Whitneys doing it, especially on the PP. Another forward made a successful move to D also but his name escapes me now. Boyle despite the mistakes in that NC game helped BC immensely while on D that year in getting them to that game. Had he netted that 2 on 0 breakaway, that the MSU goaltender robbed him on, BC would have likely won that game instead.

There is a massive difference between a forward playing defense on the powerplay, and playing defense full time. As for Boyle, I've posted on this topic on several occasions and I disagree. It is fundamentally risky to play a player out of position, and far riskier playing a forward at defense than vice versa. It was only a matter of time until he got burned. Unfortunately, it happened at the worst possible time. And to be clear, I don't blame Boyle for what happened. I blame the coaching staff for putting him in that position.

Thankfully three national titles in the next five years did a bit to salve that wound.

 

[recruited]

+16 being 5th on the team is a stat that says otherwise. Cangelosi +24 Savage +19 Kim +17 and Brown +17are the only ones ahead of him. Sure hope you are not a recruit trying to justify playing time over him.

+/- is not a great stat. All that means is that the goalie is standing on his head. And we all know that Joe Woll has saved many breakaways and other chances from turnovers.

No i am not a recruit, just a fan that has seen enough hockey to know better.

 

[RENCEB]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

Matt Gaudreau has the most PIM with 48 (+13)
C. Fitz 38 PIM (+13)
R. Fitz 36 PIM (+11)
White 32 PIM (+12)

Stats

To be fair, Gaudreau racked up 20 PIM with misconducts in back to back games against Merrimack and PC, so his numbers are a little skewed.

 

[FiveHole12]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

21 sure plays with a lot of **** and vinegar. Fivehole12, you remember the game we went to see at PC where they tied it at the end when Jerry was going for i dunno what record but Matty G stood in the aisle next to our seats, he looked 10. Who would have thought he'd be leading the team in scoring as a SR? ( i know, white and Fitz were hurt but still)

I remember it well... good times Joe. C'mon back and we'll do the road circuit again.

 

[sterlippo1]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

I remember it well... good times Joe. C'mon back and we'll do the road circuit again.

the single thing that i REALLY miss to be honest. I think i'm here for the HE Friday night semis next trip after this week's trip. Lets hope we make it this year, it's been a while

 

[J.D.]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

A lot to like about this team but PP not included. Not only does it not produce but it gives up back breaking shorthanded goals.

 

[northeastern]

A lot to like about this team. ..but it gives up back breaking shorthanded goals.

stop talking about NU on the BC thread..

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

A lot to like about this team........

like all orphaned red heads

 

[Cross Check]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

A lot to like about this team but PP not included. Not only does it not produce but it gives up back breaking shorthanded goals.

You mean special teams not included. I can't remember the last time their penalty kill percentage was under 80%. For years, penalty killing was always one of their great strengths. Not this year.

 

[FiveHole12]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

True about the special teams. I feel like we have a far better chance of scoring on the penalty kill than the power play.
Can Jerry refuse to take power plays? That would probably work best... stay at 5 on 5.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

Am I nuts for being being more upset about how they lost than the fact that they did lose? BU is better, no argument there. The repeat problems that don't get corrected, forget about physical mistakes. Calnan two games in a row with an absolutely dumb penalty. That is your captain. Late penalties in almost every single game. Groundhog day over and over again.

Want to point out one thing here. McInnis, let's not really beat around the bush or overstate it either, had a very rough night. He is now +1 in 25 games. 33 PIMs, 6 pts. Campoli is +7 in 10 games. I think it's time to give Campoli a shot here. A positionally sound player would arguably have kept BU's first and third goals from going up on the board.

 

[SonofSouthie]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

They've got Merrimack at home Fri and then Northeastern on Mon. It would behove them not to lose to either of those teams so they're not tumbling down the Pairwise rankings.

 

[bothman]

Am I nuts for being being more upset about how they lost than the fact that they did lose? BU is better, no argument there. The repeat problems that don't get corrected, forget about physical mistakes. Calnan two games in a row with an absolutely dumb penalty. That is your captain. Late penalties in almost every single game. Groundhog day over and over again.

Want to point out one thing here. McInnis, let's not really beat around the bush or overstate it either, had a very rough night. He is now +1 in 25 games. 33 PIMs, 6 pts. Campoli is +7 in 10 games. I think it's time to give Campoli a shot here. A positionally sound player would arguably have kept BU's first and third goals from going up on the board.

First time I can remember BC being outskated and outskilked. Calnan taking runs at BU guys all night. It was role reversal out there. BU is most talented team in college hockey when they put it together.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

First time I can remember BC being outskated and outskilked. Calnan taking runs at BU guys all night. It was role reversal out there. BU is most talented team in college hockey when they put it together.

Golden era of BC hockey has been done for a few years now. BC needs to think long and hard about their next coach - who will it be and when it will happen.

 

[PPGuru]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

They've got Merrimack at home Fri and then Northeastern on Mon. It would behove them not to lose to either of those teams so they're not tumbling down the Pairwise rankings.

I would be very surprised if BC can't handle these two games. This team may not be as talented as prior teams but it comes to play.

 

[recruited]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

Am I nuts for being being more upset about how they lost than the fact that they did lose? BU is better, no argument there. The repeat problems that don't get corrected, forget about physical mistakes. Calnan two games in a row with an absolutely dumb penalty. That is your captain. Late penalties in almost every single game. Groundhog day over and over again.

Want to point out one thing here. McInnis, let's not really beat around the bush or overstate it either, had a very rough night. He is now +1 in 25 games. 33 PIMs, 6 pts. Campoli is +7 in 10 games. I think it's time to give Campoli a shot here. A positionally sound player would arguably have kept BU's first and third goals from going up on the board.

McInnis is even worse than Moore. Well, you would have to fire his father to get the kid out of the lineup. Jerry is loyal - but he is hurting the other 20 kids on this team.

Again last night, Moore fell on the first rush and BU got a nice shot on net.

These two defenceman are undersized and should be able to skate with anybody - but they are having problem adjusting to the speed of the game and we are 20+ games in. Its not like they are adding any offensive output. Karlsson they are not.

Tye shorthaned goal, if you listen to Jerry's post-game comments , "was a puck retrieval problem with the defenceman putting the puck in the corner and no one retrieving it". The question then becomes, were were the defenceman, did we have 5 men down low? Were the defencemen watching the puck not being retrived and not getting back to play defence?

 

[J.D.]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

Might take a while to adjust but he and Moore should both be good 4 year players based on what they did in USHL. Obviously you hate losing to BU but it's a tough matchup. Biggest thing is not getting a lead in any of the three games. Make BU chase the game. Let's not act as if the sky is falling. Two best teams in the league.

No reason the PP should be as bad as it is. Have to hope for just some improvement in special teams down the stretch.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

Tye shorthaned goal, if you listen to Jerry's post-game comments , "was a puck retrieval problem with the defenceman putting the puck in the corner and no one retrieving it". The question then becomes, were were the defenceman, did we have 5 men down low? Were the defencemen watching the puck not being retrived and not getting back to play defence?

Brickley really handled the replay of this nicely and it is true that it all went wrong with the retrieval. It was obvious during real time that the forechecker (#15) just simply took a terrible angle, was in too deep into the zone to get to the puck and thus not only did BU get to it cleanly but skated right out and past the forechecker. That's a huge breakdown that should never happen but, McInnis then went and made a pretty ugly read on the play and got burned by McAvoy while he was in no-man's land. A more experienced player would recognize McAvoy was about to get pressure from the next Eagle up the ice (Cotton) and there is no reason to commit to that position at that point on the ice. It's really a dreadful decision given the position of the two BU players and his teammate and the circumstances (PP). You simply can't give up the middle of the ice there. A bad retrieval on a PP usually results in a clear. McAvoy probably would have dumped if he saw BC defenders in position in spite of the 3.5 Eagles being caught back on the bad retrieval. What I'm saying is, the bigger mistake was McInnis making the read to play McAvoy with another BU player ahead of him AND going up the middle (while McAvoy was about to be negated by Cotton anyway, and he had no chance of catching Keller).

 

[RENCEB]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2016-2017 Season Thread

I would be very surprised if BC can't handle these two games. This team may not be as talented as prior teams but it comes to play.

I'm going to channel Scarlet ("Opposite Girl") here and say there is no WAY that Merrimack can possibly beat BC at Kelly Rink. I know they're winless in like 35 straight there.