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Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
I know. When I heard the call all I could think of was the guy asking Tom Hanks if he was serious about the sticky bomb near the end of Saving Private Ryan. I'm moderately sure the ref made it up on the spot. I'm sure Santini now has a rep with the refs. Welcome to Petrecki-Matheson territory. Anything close is a penalty.
I know. When I heard the call all I could think of was the guy asking Tom Hanks if he was serious about the sticky bomb near the end of Saving Private Ryan. I'm moderately sure the ref made it up on the spot. I'm sure Santini now has a rep with the refs. Welcome to Petrecki-Matheson territory. Anything close is a penalty.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
The NCAA has clarified this. The ruling was wrong. Coach York was wrong. Coach Michelleto was correct. It should have been a goal. Link: http://www.masslive.com/umasshockey...a_issues_clarification_vide.html#incart_river
The NCAA has clarified this. The ruling was wrong. Coach York was wrong. Coach Michelleto was correct. It should have been a goal. Link: http://www.masslive.com/umasshockey...a_issues_clarification_vide.html#incart_river
Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
And how about you try and actually read the memo. It says "in order to clarify, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, internet video replay WILL NO LONGER be allowed"
It never says the officials were wrong in what they did, etc.
And how about you try and actually read the memo. It says "in order to clarify, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, internet video replay WILL NO LONGER be allowed"
It never says the officials were wrong in what they did, etc.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
The blogger even states that the memo that was sent out in the summer was not made available so nobody knows what it said. This memo was separate than anything in the rule book. Sounds to me like the memo they sent said absolutely nothing about not being able to use internet video replay hence the need to now clarify their position.
The blogger even states that the memo that was sent out in the summer was not made available so nobody knows what it said. This memo was separate than anything in the rule book. Sounds to me like the memo they sent said absolutely nothing about not being able to use internet video replay hence the need to now clarify their position.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
How about you read this one. Idiot.
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/11/15_bertagna_officials_erred.php
How about you read this one. Idiot.
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/11/15_bertagna_officials_erred.php
Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
So I'm the idiot for calling you out for misrepresenting what YOU initially provided? Get your ducks in a row next time. Now, carry on with the belly aching over how your team should have been credited with an illegal goal. I still love that logic.
So I'm the idiot for calling you out for misrepresenting what YOU initially provided? Get your ducks in a row next time. Now, carry on with the belly aching over how your team should have been credited with an illegal goal. I still love that logic.
FiveHole12
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
That review last night had payback written all over it.
Which now begs the question... why was Micheletto allowed to request a review, and receive, of Boston College's first goal last night. The goal was overturned.
That review last night had payback written all over it.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
He went on to defend the officials by saying "in fairness to them, etc."
I love how we're holding people accountable for ultimately getting a crucial call correct. What a grave injustice foor poor old umass.
He went on to defend the officials by saying "in fairness to them, etc."
I love how we're holding people accountable for ultimately getting a crucial call correct. What a grave injustice foor poor old umass.
FiveHole12
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
LOL... Joe Bertagna starts out saying that the NCCA did not define televised games so he, nor anyone else, actually knows at the time if the call is reviewable or not. BUT... let me throw the refs under the bus anyway... "I believe our officials erred twice,".
Then he goes on to say, again... "In fairness to the referees, the memo that went out in July (explaining the change in protocol) didn't establish what a television game was."
BUT, again, even though the refs, or Bertagna, actually don't know what the correct ruling would be at the time, the refs need to be squashed by the bus anyway... "(Friday) afternoon I called the NCAA and they issued a statement that this is not the type of play the referees had the right to overtun for offsides. We're going to take the rare step of issuing a statement (Saturday) to acknowledge they got it wrong in this application of the rulebook. Our players and our coaches are held accountable and we have to hold the officials accountable as well."
This blame game sounds like something that would come out of the White House, not a hockey commissioner.
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/11/15_bertagna_officials_erred.php
LOL... Joe Bertagna starts out saying that the NCCA did not define televised games so he, nor anyone else, actually knows at the time if the call is reviewable or not. BUT... let me throw the refs under the bus anyway... "I believe our officials erred twice,".
Then he goes on to say, again... "In fairness to the referees, the memo that went out in July (explaining the change in protocol) didn't establish what a television game was."
BUT, again, even though the refs, or Bertagna, actually don't know what the correct ruling would be at the time, the refs need to be squashed by the bus anyway... "(Friday) afternoon I called the NCAA and they issued a statement that this is not the type of play the referees had the right to overtun for offsides. We're going to take the rare step of issuing a statement (Saturday) to acknowledge they got it wrong in this application of the rulebook. Our players and our coaches are held accountable and we have to hold the officials accountable as well."
This blame game sounds like something that would come out of the White House, not a hockey commissioner.
sterlippo1
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
We got what we deserved last night. One point. Why is every game with these guys like scratching a blackboard? When I saw santini's hit, I thought it was a garbage call but expected them do do exactly what they did........ Almost got a shorty in OT. .......Billet looked really comfortable and in control, good to see. Tough stretch coming with @ H, @ Maine and home and home with suddenly hot UNH and the breather vs The Cross in the middle. Need to go 3-1-1 minimum and I'll be satisfied. Not taking two points last night sucked
We got what we deserved last night. One point. Why is every game with these guys like scratching a blackboard? When I saw santini's hit, I thought it was a garbage call but expected them do do exactly what they did........ Almost got a shorty in OT. .......Billet looked really comfortable and in control, good to see. Tough stretch coming with @ H, @ Maine and home and home with suddenly hot UNH and the breather vs The Cross in the middle. Need to go 3-1-1 minimum and I'll be satisfied. Not taking two points last night sucked
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
4-0-1 at the quarter point of the HE schedule not bad
4-0-1 at the quarter point of the HE schedule not bad
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
Also, can anyone come up with a good reason why 'online streams' are not reviewable but televised games are? That makes no sense.
I agree with this, overturning BC's first goal today really smells funny now that this has all come out. I'll try to GIF the situation early this afternoon so we can see just how bad or not bad the call was.
Not great either when you consider that the games were against NU, UMass, and an apparently horrific BU team.
Also, can anyone come up with a good reason why 'online streams' are not reviewable but televised games are? That makes no sense.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
Yes. You are an idiot. The memo is to clarify the what was released in July. It isn't to change anything. It clarifies it. Do you know what clarify means? If not, let me know and I'll post a definition for you.
I misrepresented nothing. You misinterpreted the post because you are an idiot. I hope this CLARIFIES my previous posts for you. Not that this is not CHANGE. You misinterpreted the link before because you were an idiot and you needed clarification because you were an idiot. This clarification does not change the fact you are an idiot. I assumed you were intelligent enough to understand the link without having everything spelled out for you. This was my mistake.
By the way, if we look at the rule as a whole, as we will below, and not cherry pick it by erasing the bolded section heading, it becomes quite clear that the officials were not allowed to review this call. Unfortunately, it seems that our beloved Hockey East Refs have the same reading comprehension skills as J.D.
For those of who need everything clearly spelled out for them, if you click this link: http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/IH14.pdf and scroll down to the very bottom of page 86 of the document (which is labelled page 83, again for those that need everything CLARIFIED) you will see this in it's entirety.
Lastly, there is a huge difference between a missed call and not knowing the rule. No one is perfect and blown calls happen. I get that. But doing something completely against the rules is incompetence at its finest.
Good day to you all.
Yes. You are an idiot. The memo is to clarify the what was released in July. It isn't to change anything. It clarifies it. Do you know what clarify means? If not, let me know and I'll post a definition for you.
I misrepresented nothing. You misinterpreted the post because you are an idiot. I hope this CLARIFIES my previous posts for you. Not that this is not CHANGE. You misinterpreted the link before because you were an idiot and you needed clarification because you were an idiot. This clarification does not change the fact you are an idiot. I assumed you were intelligent enough to understand the link without having everything spelled out for you. This was my mistake.
By the way, if we look at the rule as a whole, as we will below, and not cherry pick it by erasing the bolded section heading, it becomes quite clear that the officials were not allowed to review this call. Unfortunately, it seems that our beloved Hockey East Refs have the same reading comprehension skills as J.D.
For those of who need everything clearly spelled out for them, if you click this link: http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/IH14.pdf and scroll down to the very bottom of page 86 of the document (which is labelled page 83, again for those that need everything CLARIFIED) you will see this in it's entirety.
Lastly, there is a huge difference between a missed call and not knowing the rule. No one is perfect and blown calls happen. I get that. But doing something completely against the rules is incompetence at its finest.
Good day to you all.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
I believe there is concern over the quality of the online feed in use of replay. Whether that concern is justifiable or not is debatable.
Re: Boston College Eagles 2013-2014 season thread -Speed returns to The Heights
Hey you can only beat who's on the schedule. No bad losses so far on the year. No shame in losing at michigan and minnesota.
And completely agree that whether or not the game is on tv should be irrelevant. If you are able to clearly see something, the correct call should be made. If you don't have a clear view, call on the ice stands. How freakin hard is that?
Hey you can only beat who's on the schedule. No bad losses so far on the year. No shame in losing at michigan and minnesota.
And completely agree that whether or not the game is on tv should be irrelevant. If you are able to clearly see something, the correct call should be made. If you don't have a clear view, call on the ice stands. How freakin hard is that?
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