Boston College '12-'13: Gaudreaubey Baker

[Hokydad]

Re: Boston College '12-'13: Gaudreaubey Baker

Ah Hoky... I really don't even know where to begin.

Anyway, from a hockey standpoint, I hope this guy knows enough to leave hockey alone like Gene did and let York do his thing. God knows he is familiar with York as BC absolutely owned Coach Failboat Blasi and Miami during his tenure there. And you hope he is smart enough to let York pick his own successor.

Probably won't see Spaz fired until end of season, which is unfortunate because every day that clown Luigi "represents" this university is one day too many.

First comments about him leaving Miami,

As far as football and basketball, it's not like BB could have done much less (worse?), so anyone else should be an improvement there.

 

[northeastern]

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Also an article on York in the NE Hockey Journal:

http://www.hockeyjournal.com/news/c...12/From_NEHJ-_College_hockey-s_greatest_coach

Not a whole lot we didn't know but a great read regardless.

..very nice article.
Just hope win # 924 and/or 925 do not come against my Huskies. Other than that - you earned this Coach.. have at it!

 

[J.D.]

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Taking a quick look at Bates' resume, I like it. Pretty much what I expected...an AD from a smaller school.

 

[sterlippo1]

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Taking a quick look at Bates' resume, I like it. Pretty much what I expected...an AD from a smaller school.

we pretty much need to hit a home run with this hire.........a critical time for BC athletics and more specifically the football program

 

[Dan]

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we pretty much need to hit a home run with this hire.........a critical time for BC athletics and more specifically the football program

Well, if you're happy with the hire - I would recommend not looking to deep into the direction of Miami Football and/or Basketball under Bates...

 

[MUhawks628]

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we pretty much need to hit a home run with this hire.........a critical time for BC athletics and more specifically the football program

Well, if you're happy with the hire - I would recommend not looking to deep into the direction of Miami Football and/or Basketball under Bates...

Spoiler

2003-04: 13-1 (Hoeppner)
2004-05: 8-5 (Hoeppner)
2005-06: 7-4 (Montgomery-BRAD HIRE)
2006-07: 2-10 (Montgomery)
2007-08: 6-7 (Montgomery) MAC East Champs
2008-09: 2-10 (Montgomery)
2009-10: 1-11 (Haywood-BRAD HIRE)
2010-11: 10-4 (Haywood) MAC Champs/Bowl Champs
2011-12: 4-8 (Treadwell-BRAD HIRE)
2012-13: 3-3 (Treadwell)

2003–2004 18–11 12–6 2nd
2004–2005 19–11 12–6 1st NIT 1st Round
2005–2006 18–11 14–4 T–2nd NIT Opening Round
2006–2007 18–15 10–6 3rd NCAA 1st Round
2007–2008 17–15 9–7 4th CBI 1st Round
2008–2009 17–13 10–6 T–3rd
2009–2010 14–18 9–7 T–3rd
2010-2011 16–17 11–5 2nd CBI 1st Round
2011-2012 9–21 5–11 6th

 

[J.D.]

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So he made a bad hire in Montgomery, rebounded with Haywood who was then sought after by other programs and the jury is still out on Treadwell, who was viewed as a promising coordinator from Michigan State. 3-3 in year two looks a lot better than 4-8. I don't see anything wrong with his track record in football.

Who did he hire in hoops?

 

[MUhawks628]

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So he made a bad hire in Montgomery, rebounded with Haywood who was then sought after by other programs and the jury is still out on Treadwell, who was viewed as a promising coordinator from Michigan State. 3-3 in year two looks a lot better than 4-8. I don't see anything wrong with his track record in football.

Who did he hire in hoops?

To be fair, Treadwell is 3-3 with relatively close wins against arguably the two worst teams in the MAC (UMass & Akron) and a 1AA school. It's probably going to get a little ugly for us down the stretch. Haywood's 10-4 season was a bit of smoke and mirrors, but wins are wins and his team played hard for him.

Hoops he never made a hire, just continued to renew the incumbent coach's contract.

More to what Dan was probably alluding to, Bates presided over the complete decay of Miami's football and basketball programs from not only a competitive standpoint, but to facilities, attendance, and overall fan intrest. There are numerous reasons why this happened, and Bates is only part of the equation, but at the end of the day it all occurred during his tenure, so fairly or not he's become the scapegoat.

Bates is unanimously regarded as a great person, a dedicated worker, and most of all - extremely approachable. The few friends I had who played sports absolutely loved the guy, so I do believe he genuinely cares about his student athletes, and there is no denying that he did great things with Miami's GSR during his tenure.

I imagine he will have far fewer obstacles to deal with at BC. Wish him the best.

 

[vellnueve]

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To be fair, Treadwell is 3-3 with relatively close wins against arguably the two worst teams in the MAC (UMass & Akron) and a 1AA school. It's probably going to get a little ugly for us down the stretch. Haywood's 10-4 season was a bit of smoke and mirrors, but wins are wins and his team played hard for him.

I'll take 3-3 over bad teams versus losing to friggin' Army. I also like the fact that he's coming from a school with a decent hockey program.

 

[claver2010]

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None of the candidates had perfect resumes, I wil say he wasn't my first or second choice but I'll withhold judgement until he makes arguably the most important BC hire in recent memory.

 

[sterlippo1]

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Well, if you're happy with the hire - I would recommend not looking to deep into the direction of Miami Football and/or Basketball under Bates...

we'll see how he does. I'm glad some of you guys came here to post your thoughts on him, i hope more of the Brotherhood will do the same.

 

[Dan]

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we'll see how he does. I'm glad some of you guys came here to post your thoughts on him, i hope more of the Brotherhood will do the same.

As mentioned above Brad Bates is a world-class human being. I wish him nothing but the best, even if it is at Boston College. He has done a lot of good at Miami and always represented the University in a first-rate fashion.

However, the issues at Miami in relation to football and basketball go A LOT deeper than just wins and losses and coaching hires. The athletic department seems to lack energy and creativity in problem solving, marketing and fundraising efforts, etc. As a Miami fan it was a MAJOR disappointment to watch as the university failed to capitalize in any way on strong programs and performances prior too and at the start of Brad's tenure (i.e. Wally in '99 and Ben in '03).

Miami presents an AD certain challenges, but it offers an incredibly attractive overall package to recruits - history, campus, academics, facilities that are good enough, uptown, the ladies, etc, etc. There's no reason Miami shouldn't be one of the elite MAC teams every year - with a higher ceiling than that in my opinion. It just hasn't been the case lately...

I hope Bates is a HUGE success at BC (and growing up a UNH fan and attending Miami, you better believe I love to see BC lose). I think this is a split that needed to happen and hopefully benefits both parties.

 

[J.D.]

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I certainly can't challenge the specificity of the Miami posters, but from simply looking at Bates' resume and the W/L records of the football and hoops teams noted above, nothing stands out as a red flag to me. Looks like the hoops coach he kept renewing had only one losing season in the MAC...last year. And was 11-5 two years ago. He was also able to attract a hot coaching candidate in Treadwell to Miami. Now, joining an ACC program...he should have a good opportunity. As claver mentioned, I'll chime in again after we see who the new football coach is. Thankfully he won't be reaching out to Blasi to make the jump with him

 

[theprofromdover]

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His legacy will be determined by his football hire. Fair or not.

 

[all bear]

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Are they gonna let donuts-billet play this year?

 

[joegrav]

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First of all I'd put it at 50% of those "premium seats" have obstructed views. QUOTE]

Are you running for POTUS, or for the Senate from Massachusetts? Have you ever parked your fanny in one of the premium seats? You are simply making up the facts to bolster your argument.

The percentage of seats with even partially obstructed views is closer to 2%, and that may be an overstatement!

Uhh, what? You're joking right? Northeastern is by far my favorite place to watch hockey, but I don't think I've ever sat in a seat that didn't have some sort of obstructed view. It's not a problem, really, but the view is obstructed, definitely.

If NU had won the national championship three times in the past decade, the house would sellout for every game, and fans would buy tickets to stand in the lobby where they could watch through the glass!

And if BC played at Matthews Arena, the arena would probably either fall over or be shut down by the fire department, since the average attendance of 6,407 is slightly larger than Matthews' capacity of 4,666. lol

Echoing what an earlier poster said -- NU's ticket office is by far the best I've experienced in Hockey East. Getting to pick my own seat. What a concept! Why can't BC do that? Also, no ridiculous fee to buy online in 2012. Thank you.

I stand by my comment that the tickets are overpriced though. You can get tickets to most BC games in the upper corners for $10. (Obviously, the good seats are pricier.)

 

[J.D.]

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Perhaps the lack of a ridiculous fee to buy online is deceiving in that they're just throwing that back on to the original ticket price.

 

[joegrav]

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Perhaps the lack of a ridiculous fee to buy online is deceiving in that they're just throwing that back on to the original ticket price.

Regardless, I appreciate that it doesn't cost me any more to buy online than at the window. Such a headache, and there's no way there's any additional labor etc. involved that would justify a $3+ fee on each ticket just to buy them online (and in the process, make the line faster for everyone who needs to buy tickets on gameday!).

 

[claver2010]

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I stand by my comment that the tickets are overpriced though. You can get tickets to most BC games in the upper corners for $10. (Obviously, the good seats are pricier.)

And you can see the whole ice, what a novel concept.

 

[joegrav]

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And you can see the whole ice, what a novel concept.

I find that a lot of the "good" seats at BC have the worst views. A lot of the seat-back seats in the corners have awful sightlines to the goal in front of you. I like our balcony seats.