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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference Pt II - The Exodus
Just think of how good our record will look though!
Just think of how good our record will look though!
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Big Ten Hockey Conference Pt II - The Exodus
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Re: Big Ten Hockey Conference Pt II - The Exodus
That is an interesting point. I think I agree. I have gone to a few games to watch other WCHA teams play because they were in the same league, but if they don't play these teams often I wouldn't think I would go. Especially since it's not like the frozen 4 so it is much easier to get tickets. I went to a the SCSU regional game last year just because but can't say I will make it a regular habit of doing things like that. I think the F5 will feel the burn as local hockey fans start to lose interest in the WCHA. Sad but true since it will eventually happen.
Wow, I agree with you on something... the first part anyways. I'm not quite as optimistic, so it's all his fault!
I think MN and WI will be fine but the other leagues and smaller schools will feel the brunt of this in a few years.
That is an interesting point. I think I agree. I have gone to a few games to watch other WCHA teams play because they were in the same league, but if they don't play these teams often I wouldn't think I would go. Especially since it's not like the frozen 4 so it is much easier to get tickets. I went to a the SCSU regional game last year just because but can't say I will make it a regular habit of doing things like that. I think the F5 will feel the burn as local hockey fans start to lose interest in the WCHA. Sad but true since it will eventually happen.
Wow, I agree with you on something... the first part anyways. I'm not quite as optimistic, so it's all his fault!
I think MN and WI will be fine but the other leagues and smaller schools will feel the brunt of this in a few years.
Almington
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Honestly, I see this as a pure unadulterated money grab. I will continue to give specifically to the academic departments where I had classes, but I will not donate another dime to the athletic department for the indefinite future. I'm also far less likely to make trips to Madison for either hockey weekends or football games. I recognize that I am in the minority but I see my financial support as agreeing with their decisions, which I do not.
Honestly, I see this as a pure unadulterated money grab. I will continue to give specifically to the academic departments where I had classes, but I will not donate another dime to the athletic department for the indefinite future. I'm also far less likely to make trips to Madison for either hockey weekends or football games. I recognize that I am in the minority but I see my financial support as agreeing with their decisions, which I do not.
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Gurtholfin
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Barry is not universally liked here, no matter what you may hear. In fact, far more people in Madison that I know dislike him although we acknowledge what he (the football program's success 94-05) did for our overall athletic program.
Time will be the measure and there's nothing we can do to stop this anyway. At least we still get to hate each other on a regular basis.
Wow, I agree with you on something... the first part anyways. I'm not quite as optimistic, so it's all his fault!
Barry is not universally liked here, no matter what you may hear. In fact, far more people in Madison that I know dislike him although we acknowledge what he (the football program's success 94-05) did for our overall athletic program.
Time will be the measure and there's nothing we can do to stop this anyway. At least we still get to hate each other on a regular basis.
Driftryder
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Exactly this. I know of many Gopher fans including myself that went to all the games at the X to watch WCHA College Hockey, but after the Gophers leave the WCHA that will probably stop, unfortunately.
Exactly this. I know of many Gopher fans including myself that went to all the games at the X to watch WCHA College Hockey, but after the Gophers leave the WCHA that will probably stop, unfortunately.
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Somebody should pass that suggestion on to the powers that be. Coordinating hockey series with football might help with attendance (OSU could certainly use a boost on that one).
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That would make way too much sense to do. So obviously there is no chance they will actually realize this would be good and do it. That would be giving the schedulers way too much credit.
That would make way too much sense to do. So obviously there is no chance they will actually realize this would be good and do it. That would be giving the schedulers way too much credit.
Almington
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The problem with this view is that it totally discounts the ticket packages that Gopher (mostly) and Badger fans purchased year after year long before they knew if their teams would make it. I understand he is trying to put the best spin on it he can, but I suspect that the 2014 F5 will be awash in red ink and empty seats.
The problem with this view is that it totally discounts the ticket packages that Gopher (mostly) and Badger fans purchased year after year long before they knew if their teams would make it. I understand he is trying to put the best spin on it he can, but I suspect that the 2014 F5 will be awash in red ink and empty seats.
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As for the future of the F5, the WCHA better hope UND makes it every year. Attendance without them would be putrid. It'll be interesting to see just how much attendance drops when MN and UW fans stop going.
Coordinating and marketing this would be so easy, too. Despite MN being terrible in football, I could see some fans being more inclined to make road trips out east if they could see three games (two hockey / one football) in a weekend. I don't know how many crossover fans there are in the two sports, but it *has* to be a higher percentage than basketball/hockey.That would make way too much sense to do. So obviously there is no chance they will actually realize this would be good and do it. That would be giving the schedulers way too much credit.
As for the future of the F5, the WCHA better hope UND makes it every year. Attendance without them would be putrid. It'll be interesting to see just how much attendance drops when MN and UW fans stop going.
SoCalSiouxFan
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Alumni from the other schools who now live in MSP will want to see WCHA games in MSP (UND, UMD, & Bemidji fans this year). This year three teams were in the tournament that do not travel well to MSP (UAA, CC, & DU) yet the tournament was a success. I think it is good for Minnesota hockey to showcase the other Minnesota colleges in MSP once in a while.
College hockey in Chicago may be good for college hockey in the long run. Remember that over two million Blackhawks fans came out to see their team hoist the Stanley cup in a parade. Blackhawks tickets are EXPENSIVE!!! 22,000 seats for 2 Million fans. If only 1% of the hockey starved Blackhawk fans attend a Big 10 tournament in Chicago the tournament will be a sellout. Might see a lot of Indian head jersies in the stands, but Gopher fans should be used to that.
Alumni from the other schools who now live in MSP will want to see WCHA games in MSP (UND, UMD, & Bemidji fans this year). This year three teams were in the tournament that do not travel well to MSP (UAA, CC, & DU) yet the tournament was a success. I think it is good for Minnesota hockey to showcase the other Minnesota colleges in MSP once in a while.
College hockey in Chicago may be good for college hockey in the long run. Remember that over two million Blackhawks fans came out to see their team hoist the Stanley cup in a parade. Blackhawks tickets are EXPENSIVE!!! 22,000 seats for 2 Million fans. If only 1% of the hockey starved Blackhawk fans attend a Big 10 tournament in Chicago the tournament will be a sellout. Might see a lot of Indian head jersies in the stands, but Gopher fans should be used to that.
dggoddard
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This was done to align programming that won't interfere with #1 football, #2 hoops & #3 coaches shows.
Television drove this deal and while attendance will probably go down the TV money will more than offset it.
Once BTN starts setting the schedule you can bet that Tuesday night games or games starting at 5 PM or 9 PM will become the rule not the exception. This is not about setting up cool weekends for you to visit the olde campus and catch a hockey game on the same day.
This was done to align programming that won't interfere with #1 football, #2 hoops & #3 coaches shows.
Television drove this deal and while attendance will probably go down the TV money will more than offset it.
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bronconick
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Well, the Red Wings had 1.4 million come out in 2008 for their parade, and that's been translating into about 14 local non-affiliated fans watching the CCHA finals.
Well, the Red Wings had 1.4 million come out in 2008 for their parade, and that's been translating into about 14 local non-affiliated fans watching the CCHA finals.
dropthatpuck
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Which poster was it that we used to give boatloads of crap to about him wanting a BTHC? Didn't think I'd see the day.
Which poster was it that we used to give boatloads of crap to about him wanting a BTHC? Didn't think I'd see the day.
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Gurtholfin
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A lot of Toews jerseys at that.
A lot of Toews jerseys at that.
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Larry Bloom or whatever his name was I mean Frank the Tank.
Larry Bloom or whatever his name was I mean Frank the Tank.
Driftryder
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Yes but many of those paid seats were Gopher fans even though the team wasn't there, I do hope the F5 continues to do well but without the majority of Gopher fans buying tickets in the future who knows.
Yes but many of those paid seats were Gopher fans even though the team wasn't there, I do hope the F5 continues to do well but without the majority of Gopher fans buying tickets in the future who knows.
bronconick
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Larry's probably the guy who gave Penn State the money. Got to respect a man who will spend $88 million of his own money to win an argument over the internet.
Larry Bloom or whatever his name was I mean Frank the Tank.
Larry's probably the guy who gave Penn State the money. Got to respect a man who will spend $88 million of his own money to win an argument over the internet.
Frank the Tank
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I'm an Illinois guy that would love to see that happen, but I don't see how that's possible unless they (1) shockingly deem the 80-year old 2,000-seat ice arena suitable for D1-play or (2) have a major announcement that a renovation of Assembly Hall is moving forward ASAP and icemaking capabilities are a part of it. The U of I Ice Arena is a fun and loud facility where club games sell out regularly, so I've always believed that there's more than enough interest for D1 hockey at the school (coupled with the large number of Blackhawks fans from Chicago that attend), yet I wouldn't try using it for a D1 program. The Assembly Hall renovation has been discussed constantly for the past 4 years, so I'll believe it when it I see it (although it's definitely necessary).
I'm an Illinois guy that would love to see that happen, but I don't see how that's possible unless they (1) shockingly deem the 80-year old 2,000-seat ice arena suitable for D1-play or (2) have a major announcement that a renovation of Assembly Hall is moving forward ASAP and icemaking capabilities are a part of it. The U of I Ice Arena is a fun and loud facility where club games sell out regularly, so I've always believed that there's more than enough interest for D1 hockey at the school (coupled with the large number of Blackhawks fans from Chicago that attend), yet I wouldn't try using it for a D1 program. The Assembly Hall renovation has been discussed constantly for the past 4 years, so I'll believe it when it I see it (although it's definitely necessary).
SoCalSiouxFan
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Oh my gosh, Gophers fans may have to travel out of State come tournament time. Don't worry about us we are now used to having the tournament without you.
Besides, I thought it was the Sioux fans living in MSP that were purchasing the tickets year after year? Not everyone living in MSP is a Gopher fan. Plenty of UND, UMD, SCSU, Mankato and Bemidji fans living in MSP to buy tickets. Have fun in Chicago, in 2014. No really, it sounds like Chicago could be a great tournament host.
Oh my gosh, Gophers fans may have to travel out of State come tournament time. Don't worry about us we are now used to having the tournament without you.
Besides, I thought it was the Sioux fans living in MSP that were purchasing the tickets year after year? Not everyone living in MSP is a Gopher fan. Plenty of UND, UMD, SCSU, Mankato and Bemidji fans living in MSP to buy tickets. Have fun in Chicago, in 2014. No really, it sounds like Chicago could be a great tournament host.
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