Happy
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Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
stupid, Orono, ME is not in Minnesota, so it isn't a home game.
stupid, Orono, ME is not in Minnesota, so it isn't a home game.
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Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
The tournament was set up so the higher seeds played at home. Minnesota could have played at home that year, but didn't do well enough in the regular season to get the higher seed.
Minnesota could have played all their games at home that year if they took care of business and got a higher seed.
Just like how Minnesota could have played in Green Bay in '06 instead of Wisconsin (you may recall that Tech was the host, so the Badgers were in no way assured of going to Green Bay) if they had taken care of business. Just think, that could've been Wisconsin that ran into Holy Cross...
The point being: the Gophers have had several chances to play an entire tournament in their home state and never converted. The Badgers have had one chance, a chance that the Gophers had a chance to spoil if they didn't poop the bed in that year's WCHA third place game, and they nailed it.
If you still think that's something that you've got to whine about, then there's nothing anyone can do to console you.
Good job missing the point.
The tournament was set up so the higher seeds played at home. Minnesota could have played at home that year, but didn't do well enough in the regular season to get the higher seed.
Minnesota could have played all their games at home that year if they took care of business and got a higher seed.
Just like how Minnesota could have played in Green Bay in '06 instead of Wisconsin (you may recall that Tech was the host, so the Badgers were in no way assured of going to Green Bay) if they had taken care of business. Just think, that could've been Wisconsin that ran into Holy Cross...
The point being: the Gophers have had several chances to play an entire tournament in their home state and never converted. The Badgers have had one chance, a chance that the Gophers had a chance to spoil if they didn't poop the bed in that year's WCHA third place game, and they nailed it.
If you still think that's something that you've got to whine about, then there's nothing anyone can do to console you.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
And the committee was going to do anything it could to get Wisconsin in Green Bay that year.
I may be remembering this wrong...but, wasn't MN the #1 overall seed that year? Or were they #2?
And the committee was going to do anything it could to get Wisconsin in Green Bay that year.
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
I would almost guarantee BTHC in 2 - 3 years. For UW and Minn, means 22 conference games, 6 BTCH games, and 6 open games (assuming AK trip). With the Showcase done, and hopefully a BTN commitment to show games, it will happen. Regardless of current opinion.
I would almost guarantee BTHC in 2 - 3 years. For UW and Minn, means 22 conference games, 6 BTCH games, and 6 open games (assuming AK trip). With the Showcase done, and hopefully a BTN commitment to show games, it will happen. Regardless of current opinion.
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
Nope. Never happening. Nobody cares about college hockey outside of the Upper Midwest and New England. There's a reason that even the NHL doesn't get ESPN coverage until the Cup playoffs.....and that's because no one cares about hockey.
Which is fine with me, because once the money comes in to play, they will undoubtedly ruin college hockey somehow. How is the only thing that remains to be seen.
They'll probably do something stupid like institute a BCS format into college hockey so they can get all of the big time schools on national TV. That sounds about par for the course for the NCAA.
Nope. Never happening. Nobody cares about college hockey outside of the Upper Midwest and New England. There's a reason that even the NHL doesn't get ESPN coverage until the Cup playoffs.....and that's because no one cares about hockey.
Which is fine with me, because once the money comes in to play, they will undoubtedly ruin college hockey somehow. How is the only thing that remains to be seen.
They'll probably do something stupid like institute a BCS format into college hockey so they can get all of the big time schools on national TV. That sounds about par for the course for the NCAA.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
Even if the committee had still sent UW to Green Bay and MN to Grand Forks, MN would have played BSU and not HC.
Even if the committee had still sent UW to Green Bay and MN to Grand Forks, MN would have played BSU and not HC.
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
What does this rant have to do with anything?
I would put my money on Socttyp's scenario happening far sooner than I'd expect the status quo to hold. That has nothing to do with either ESPN or the NCAA, however.
You do realize that the "BTHC" he's talking about is merely the current Big Ten teams playing each other in OOC games, right? Not some plot to get Iowa and Penn State and Illinois to add teams, right?
Rather, it looks like you saw "BTHC" and spouted off about some random nonsense.
What does this rant have to do with anything?
I would put my money on Socttyp's scenario happening far sooner than I'd expect the status quo to hold. That has nothing to do with either ESPN or the NCAA, however.
You do realize that the "BTHC" he's talking about is merely the current Big Ten teams playing each other in OOC games, right? Not some plot to get Iowa and Penn State and Illinois to add teams, right?
Rather, it looks like you saw "BTHC" and spouted off about some random nonsense.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
Overall a pretty dumb idea.
The only way that works is if the number of conference games is cut and the number of overall games is not. Otherwise the Big 10 schools end up with no "non-conference" games at all and no one else ever gets to play a Big 10 school unless they are in their conference, or their Big 10 Network conference.
Overall a pretty dumb idea.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
I think your rationale for it being a dumb idea is that conference games aren't reduced, is that correct? Or is there a reason that this would be a bad idea even if conference games are reduced?
Blockski's been advocating for fewer conference games for quite some time now.
I think your rationale for it being a dumb idea is that conference games aren't reduced, is that correct? Or is there a reason that this would be a bad idea even if conference games are reduced?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
I wish the Big Ten would get it through their head: WE DON'T WANT TO PLAY B10 TEAMS ALL YEAR!
Minnesota's rivalries start and end with UND and UW. Michigan is nice, yeah, but ever since they pussied out and went to the CCHA it hasn't been the same. We don't care when we play MSU and I can't even remember the last time we played OSU.
PSU is the only B10 school close to having a team with a following and they are MORE than content to stay at the club level.
College hockey is darn near as good as it could get right now. Are there a few tweaks I would like to make? Sure. You can't be perfect.
The BTHC will not be implemented unless at least two or three other schools get competitive at the D1 level and Minnesota OKs it. I don't mean to sound arrogant but Minnesota is the equivalent of one of the 6 veto nations on the UN security council.
Second, the BTN has NEVER shown any interest in hockey. They like having it on as a sort of status symbol but they treat it like an ***** pulp fiction gimp. Break away midgame to show some dumbass getting fired for texting his recruits too much? **** me.
I wish the Big Ten would get it through their head: WE DON'T WANT TO PLAY B10 TEAMS ALL YEAR!
Minnesota's rivalries start and end with UND and UW. Michigan is nice, yeah, but ever since they pussied out and went to the CCHA it hasn't been the same. We don't care when we play MSU and I can't even remember the last time we played OSU.
PSU is the only B10 school close to having a team with a following and they are MORE than content to stay at the club level.
College hockey is darn near as good as it could get right now. Are there a few tweaks I would like to make? Sure. You can't be perfect.
The BTHC will not be implemented unless at least two or three other schools get competitive at the D1 level and Minnesota OKs it. I don't mean to sound arrogant but Minnesota is the equivalent of one of the 6 veto nations on the UN security council.
Second, the BTN has NEVER shown any interest in hockey. They like having it on as a sort of status symbol but they treat it like an ***** pulp fiction gimp. Break away midgame to show some dumbass getting fired for texting his recruits too much? **** me.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
I don't like it either way. Do I really want to see OSU more in lieu of Denver and CC? Or some of the other Minnesota schools? Not really. I live rivals and conference rivalries are fed by how often they play each other.
I don't like it either way. Do I really want to see OSU more in lieu of Denver and CC? Or some of the other Minnesota schools? Not really. I live rivals and conference rivalries are fed by how often they play each other.
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
2 years ago is that hard to remember?
http://www.uscho.com/box/?date=20071025&vis=osu&home=umn&gender=m
http://www.uscho.com/box/?date=20071026&vis=osu&home=umn&gender=m
2 years ago is that hard to remember?
http://www.uscho.com/box/?date=20071025&vis=osu&home=umn&gender=m
http://www.uscho.com/box/?date=20071026&vis=osu&home=umn&gender=m
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
The NCAA or the Big Ten for that matter have no desire to give one cent about what a fan wants. The don't care!
The fact of the matter is until we see at least two non playing Big Ten schools enter the icebox I will not worry about them forming a Big Ten conference.
No matter if we see a BTHC virtually every hockey school in the country will want to play a BT school. Why wouldn't they?
Since, the WCHA is expanding anyway I would rather see Minnesota play all the Big Ten schools once a year. Heck have a tourney or a cup of some sort.
JFR, until I see more Big Ten teams only then will I get all worked up over a potential Big Ten Conference. We need more teams and at least for the current future they isn't happening.
The NCAA or the Big Ten for that matter have no desire to give one cent about what a fan wants. The don't care!
The fact of the matter is until we see at least two non playing Big Ten schools enter the icebox I will not worry about them forming a Big Ten conference.
No matter if we see a BTHC virtually every hockey school in the country will want to play a BT school. Why wouldn't they?
Since, the WCHA is expanding anyway I would rather see Minnesota play all the Big Ten schools once a year. Heck have a tourney or a cup of some sort.
JFR, until I see more Big Ten teams only then will I get all worked up over a potential Big Ten Conference. We need more teams and at least for the current future they isn't happening.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
Right I know, I was on a roll though and didn't want to let the facts get in the way
Right I know, I was on a roll though and didn't want to let the facts get in the way
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
Me neither.
I like playing Michigan and Sparty, but once a year is enough. OSU? Yawn.
Me neither.
I like playing Michigan and Sparty, but once a year is enough. OSU? Yawn.
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
Probably what people in favor of the BTHC are saying, too.
Probably what people in favor of the BTHC are saying, too.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
I prefer the pretty dumb idea of cutting the WCHA and CCHA down to 22 or 24 conference games and then having the 5 big 10 schools do some type of NC round robin tournament to let them crown the worthless champion then to go with the completely stupid option of having the big ten schools cut ties with the CCHA and WCHA to form their own conference.
Pretty dumb beats completely stupid every time.
I prefer the pretty dumb idea of cutting the WCHA and CCHA down to 22 or 24 conference games and then having the 5 big 10 schools do some type of NC round robin tournament to let them crown the worthless champion then to go with the completely stupid option of having the big ten schools cut ties with the CCHA and WCHA to form their own conference.
Pretty dumb beats completely stupid every time.
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
Remember that with a 12 team WCHA, Minnesota's schedule will look like this:
Wisconsin, designated rival - 4 games against. (4 games total)
2 other teams - 4 games against each, teams rotating each season. (8 games total)
the remaining 8 teams in the conference - 2 games against each (16 games total)
So, of the 11 other teams in the conference, you're only going to get a true, 4 game home and home series exchange against only 3 of them.
Sure doesn't seem like you'll be playing each other all that often, after all. Unless you wanted to kick some people out or go rogue and form your own conference...
If this Big Ten sub-conference happens, it'll be because the status quo in college hockey is unsustainable. It is a symptom of (and in my mind, a partial solution to) the problems with college hockey's structure, not a cause of them.
Remember that with a 12 team WCHA, Minnesota's schedule will look like this:
Wisconsin, designated rival - 4 games against. (4 games total)
2 other teams - 4 games against each, teams rotating each season. (8 games total)
the remaining 8 teams in the conference - 2 games against each (16 games total)
So, of the 11 other teams in the conference, you're only going to get a true, 4 game home and home series exchange against only 3 of them.
Sure doesn't seem like you'll be playing each other all that often, after all. Unless you wanted to kick some people out or go rogue and form your own conference...
If this Big Ten sub-conference happens, it'll be because the status quo in college hockey is unsustainable. It is a symptom of (and in my mind, a partial solution to) the problems with college hockey's structure, not a cause of them.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected
Probably right. I hate the idea of the BTHC and all that it stands for. It's repulsive.
Probably right. I hate the idea of the BTHC and all that it stands for. It's repulsive.